DO YOU BELIEVE IN SPEAKING IN TONGUE'S ?

[Blade]

DO YOU BELIEVE IN SPEAKING IN TONG'S FOR TODAY ? AND IF NOT WHY ?

Bless you my brother.. you know I don't say that enough. Many years ago reading about Smith Wigglesworth.. I can't tell you how many times he always said "my brother". I love the stories how they would go to his house and he only had the bible.. got a newspaper? Leave it out side. The man said the moment he got there Smith said lets read the word.. and they did then prayed read prayed had lunch and it was over. One time they we walking Smith asked can I stop please.. and he just started praying crying out to God. Its like reading the bible and how they addressed each other. One time out eating Smith got upset that people were eating and didn't give thanks. Matters not what people think of that man for God was with him. Ask how many in that restaurant got saved that night because he stood up and spoke. I think all this started when he was 50. Seems its never to late with God.

Its one of those things I don't understand the talk. Its very clear some are blind by the "way" they talk why.. like the song "how can you not see God". Shows us no matter what age we are in this life you can still be a baby in Christ. My view is.. I can't love you or my wife or my kids or MeiMei (new cat. Wife is Chinese) more then I love Christ. See my thinking is He loves me...oh I have fallen so much.. makes me cry now.. and yet He loves me. See when I was very young I wanted to see people through His eyes and 15 years later He did and you never ever see people the same any more. "Nothings harder then the rock I am on" song playing. So He loves me sees the good in me in the mist of that sin so no matter what He always loves back. In side me WANTS THAT to treat every person out there like that. I just asked last night out side... I still want to see people through His eyes.. I want to have that love for people.. to share Him.

So I won't make fun of what you personally believe. If I really believe you are off and HE tells me to say something 99% I PM them. So I new where this would go. We need to know where to cast my brother.

If I don't believe what Christ wrote then I won't believe anyones story. I am not like most praise GOD. See if you share something God is doing something that goes in line with the word? I WANT IT! yeah I want EVERYTHING.. I want to be IN everything my Father is doing. If I got it wrong some where man I will repent and get it right. But I want ALL of Him. They receive the holy Spirit by asking by hands laid on them? "Bother/Sis get over her lay hands on me". HAHA.. OUR GOD IS GOOD!

See... all of this hinges on "love". I look read how Christ treated others. Do you know that woman caught in sin? Yeah I don't know if they just dragged her out with no clothes but in all that where did she "repent?" "Neither do I condemn you go and sin no more". Makes me cry.. that is Christ. So love back.. I become all things to all to save them so if I have to look silly stupid.. I do it. "Reason I sing" I love to sing. 1st time I sang was in Church.. I was like 19.. big Church.. ALL STOOD clapped youth pastor says "DONT let it go to your head" haha very wise. Famous Choir director you would know some of his songs. I wanted to sing so they let me sing...down stairs in the little church.. who cares love it. I LOVE music and love BJ Thomas.. I know.. but that night I sang I always remember these two things.. a girl comes up "you like BJ Thomas don't you?" I said "yes how did you know?" She said "you sound just like him".

See I didn't know you need to make it .. that music you sing your own.. I just loved his voice and how he could play with the notes when he sang. The other part was that famous Choir director came up saying "didn't know you could sing...your in the group now" Well in the BIG Church there was a 4 young people.. blah blah blah.. just part of my life..

Crying.. I just didn't want to touch HIM... I LOVE HIM.. I NEED HIM...so when some make fun of Him.. it hurts.. I hurt for those that don't understand... love. Its a gift.. He is in you... ask HIM about the gift of the holy Spirit. Not what I say nor anyone else.. ask what your Father thinks about it "Father so many say gifts are still here or gone.. can you please tell me". Mean it.. He will show you where He said it in His word. Again I share.. odd because yeah BIG CHURCH or in Heaven? Me? WAAAAAYYYYY in the back what ever you believe.. I will always be there.. He is for me so.. I have to..want to.. read how they talked treated each other.. Eph 4.

 

[DJT_47]

HELLO EVERYONE, Speaking in tongues in a Gift from God, every believer has this gift, its up to the person, if he wants the gift or not,

It WAS a gift, one of the miraculous manifestations of the Spirit that no longer is present nor needed but was necessary in the early, fledgling church.

 

[Artios1]

It WAS a gift, one of the miraculous manifestations of the Spirit that no longer is present nor needed but was necessary in the early, fledgling church.

A gift cannot be a manifestation …any more than a text message is a phone.

If I gave you a phone ….one of the manifestation of the phone is texting …along with other things... but texting or calling are not the device itself.

The Word states in verse 12:7 “But” which is a contrasting conjunction... it sets in contrast that which was just spoken of …which were diversity of gifts.

The manifestation (evidence or operation) of the spirit is given to every man to profit withal

1Co 12:7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.



There is no place that states that any of the manifestation of the spirit has ceased …will they …yes but they have not and will not until that which is perfect is come ….and it is not referencing the completed word of God that is a made up fallacy for those who do not want to manifest.

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

I would disagree James was addressing Jews who were saved and were not using their faith.

in which case THEY HAD NO FAITH. Simple as that.

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

I have to disagree! Faith is NOT the evidence. Evidence is one of a myriad of outcomes of faith, but not faith itself. Faith (again as shown in Eph 2: 8-9) is a gift from God. God provides the faith needed to believe in Him “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God..."

And you are telling me that you're NOT AWARE when God gifts you with FAITH, and indwells you with his Holy Spirit??? Heb 11:1 states that FAITH is an evidence. Is that not true??

 

[Mem]

1 Corinthians is an elucidation of love, the greatest of that which remains along with hope and faith. And when hope or faith falters, these can be edified through an application of the greatness of the reality of love, considering that hope and faith falter when encountering fear, and perfect love casts out fear. I speak to God in what others might consider gibberish because I don't know how else to speak to God, getting tongue-tied as often as one does when speaking with the awesomeness as being in the presence of the possibility of the affections of a long-held crush, and I continue until I realize it no longer just a possibility but a reality, and I am stilled, knowing, and once again am edified. This often overflows toward others in form of patience, kindness, bearing, hoping, believing, and enduring (1Cor13:7). At least until I am drained of hope and faith, and I need reminding once again.

 

[Bruce_Leiter]

DO YOU BELIEVE IN SPEAKING IN TONG'S FOR TODAY ? AND IF NOT WHY ?

Yes, it's a spiritual gift, but not all of us have it. I've never experienced it; I used to have the gifts of preaching and teaching when I was a pastor. Now, God has given the spiritual gift of creativity through writing.

 

[OLDMANBORNAGAIN]

Another important point to mention, is that people who are very drunk, could perhaps be considered to be speaking in tongues? Just a thought!

 

[jb]

DO YOU BELIEVE IN SPEAKING IN TONG'S FOR TODAY ? AND IF NOT WHY ?

A few blogs and posts that I've done on the gifts of tongues and the continuance of the greater ministries and gifts in the Church can be found Here, Here, Here, Here and Here

And of course John Wesley's letter to Dr Middleton is very pertinent:

The Wesley Center Online: Wesley's Letters: 1749 (nnu.edu)

I've been exercising the gift of tongues (especially in private prayer) for now on forty years!

 

[proutled]

Yes, it's a spiritual gift, but not all of us have it. I've never experienced it; I used to have the gifts of preaching and teaching when I was a pastor. Now, God has given the spiritual gift of creativity through writing.

HELLO Good morning. Spiritual gifts are always in you, its up to us to us it, or not, God wants us to walk in vicktory, in all areas of our life, its his power to enable us to do what he did, john 14;13 the works that I do he will do also and greater works then these he will do, I encouraged you stay the course that the lord has you to do, for God love you, verry much, he says to you to learn more of hes ways of doing things, and learn to heir him better ,in prayer, for there are many things I have for you to do, at this hour. using your gift of tongues is a language that is only between you and me, I want to in power you with my anointing. against the devil, I have many things for you, however you must grow spiritually, TRUST me. ],,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, brother Bruce I did not know God was going to tell you some thing, that was him, not me, ok, take care God bless you,

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Another important point to mention, is that people who are very drunk, could perhaps be considered to be speaking in tongues? Just a thought!

I admit I might have missed something here, you're not comparing the Holy Spirit to drunkenness correct?

 

[Fundaamental]

A gift cannot be a manifestation …any more than a text message is a phone.

If I gave you a phone ….one of the manifestation of the phone is texting …along with other things... but texting or calling are not the device itself.

The Word states in verse 12:7 “But” which is a contrasting conjunction... it sets in contrast that which was just spoken of …which were diversity of gifts.

The manifestation (evidence or operation) of the spirit is given to every man to profit withal

1Co 12:7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.



There is no place that states that any of the manifestation of the spirit has ceased …will they …yes but they have not and will not until that which is perfect is come ….and it is not referencing the completed word of God that is a made up fallacy for those who do not want to manifest.

and this is where the problem is.

Because spiritual gifts is recognised as spiritual things in the Greek but not the kjv. Ie something that is only possessed once at incarnation and can happen anytime the spirit chooses.

 

[Niki7]

and this is where the problem is.

Because spiritual gifts is recognised as spiritual things in the Greek but not the kjv. Ie something that is only possessed once at incarnation and can happen anytime the spirit chooses.

Come on. As long as you are going to do copy/pastes or not quite verbatim quotes from various websites, it would behoove you to do a little research on the side. You know...just so you do not post such error as what is contained in the above quote from you.

The KJ most certainly speaks of spritual gifts as being spiritual gifts.

1Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant. 2Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led. 3Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. I Corinthians 12 KJ

Further these gifts are not in and out or now you have one and now you don't. Please read I Cor. 12 if you want to actually understand about the gifts and the fact the KJ refers to them as spiritual.

Ie something that is only possessed once at incarnation and can happen anytime the spirit chooses

Not really............

 

[Niki7]

Another important point to mention, is that people who are very drunk, could perhaps be considered to be speaking in tongues? Just a thought!

That's really not funny and I know what it says in Acts. Actually, I find this comment quite disrespectful. smh

 

[Fundaamental]

I did my research on this

In the Greek spiritual gifts is described as spiritual things after the possession

And in the Hebrew it comes back as abilities after the possession of gifts, when you desire the gifts from within your abilities will come more from pursuing the love within.

But don't take my word research it like I have.

Where as the kjv translated as you must keep seeking the gifts on the outer expressions

 

[proutled]

It WAS a gift, one of the miraculous manifestations of the Spirit that no longer is present nor needed but was necessary in the early, fledgling church.

Hello and Good morning, yaa thats what I thought to how every, some things did not add up, I was thinking , Jesus says go and make disciples, Mathew 28, ok so make disciples to make disciples all the way to today, so when did God change his mind, and whare in the bible he said stop, your on your own, that made no sense to me, the devil is a Lier, man said there's no more power , my bible says my ways are not your ways, he gave us the gifts to over come, over come this world, the prayer language is when your spirit is talking to Gods spirit, the devil hates this, he does not want you to fellowship with God, he does not want you to take dominion over him, and take back what is rightly yours, Jesus is Getting us ready now to rule and rain with him, we should be ready by time he comes and gets us, anyway, in John Jesus says 14;12 he who believes in me the works that I do He will do also, and Greater work than these he will do, because I go to my Father and what ever you ask in my name, that I will do that the Father will be glorified, praying in tongues is only the first gift, there's other gifts and part of that is healings and miracles, to do what he commanded ,us to do Mathew 28 ;18 so we all need the power of the holy spirit, to do what he commanded us to do, make sense, no its real, I believe this is what wants you to know, he wants you to trust him, he wants you to step out into the deep, he says he loves you, and he has a lot of things for you to do, but you have to learn, OK my brother, take care God bless you,

 

[Fundaamental]

Come on. As long as you are going to do copy/pastes or not quite verbatim quotes from various websites, it would behoove you to do a little research on the side. You know...just so you do not post such error as what is contained in the above quote from you.

The KJ most certainly speaks of spritual gifts as being spiritual gifts.

1Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant. 2Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led. 3Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost. I Corinthians 12 KJ

Further these gifts are not in and out or now you have one and now you don't. Please read I Cor. 12 if you want to actually understand about the gifts and the fact the KJ refers to them as spiritual.



Not really............

no I did my research on this

In the Greek spiritual gifts is described as spiritual things after the possession

And in the Hebrew it comes back as abilities after the possession of gifts, when you desire the gifts from within your abilities will come more from pursuing the love within.

But don't take my word research it like I have.

Where as the kjv translated as you must keep seeking the gifts on the outer expressions

 

[GRACE_ambassador]

op of @proutled: speaking in tongues for today?

We love and pray for all the saints, whether or not they are continuationists.
We prefer not to debate the issue, as we have seen that that leads to strife,
judgmentalism, and "biting and devouring one another," which, imho,
Displeases God, ( Grieving ) The Blessed Holy Spirit, Who Dwells In us.

We simply offer our view, and ask only for your prayerful and Careful consideration,
and will simply leave it at that, respecting whatever decision you decide to make
in the matter. I know that I will only give an account ( if I am mistaken ) To Christ
my Judge for only myself, and the "error of my own bad works" losing reward, as He
Has Clearly Taught me (1 Corinthians 3:6-15).

Thus, I have never "spoken in tongues" in 44 years - why not? My view:

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)

Precious friends, thanks for listening and considering, in love, and:

Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged And Edified In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided (+ I and II). ← PG Rated "Approved" *

Grace, Peace, And JOY!… + RICH Blessings ♫ 😇 ↑

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Additional research / study:

UnScriptural or UNdispensational?

 

[proutled]

I did my research on this

In the Greek spiritual gifts is described as spiritual things after the possession

And in the Hebrew it comes back as abilities after the possession of gifts, when you desire the gifts from within your abilities will come more from pursuing the love within.

But don't take my word research it like I have.

Where as the kjv translated as you must keep seeking the gifts on the outer expressions

HELLO, how are you, this is easy, if your a born again Christion then you have the holy spirit in you, you HAVE GOD LIVING IN YOU, the God that holds space and time, in you, now all you have to do is ask him for the gifts, the first gift is receiving the gift of speaking in tongues, read 1 corinthians 12 , chapters 13 chap 14 you have to want to, and have faith and believe. and trust him, its a big step, but its a Good one,

 

[Lanolin]

In Israel at the time they were not speaking Hebrew only some Jews were and the predominant langauge was Greek

I know in my own country what it is like to have your mother tongue suppressed. And people get SO angry if they have to learn another language they dont know esp English people - though English itself constantly creates new words and borrows from other lanaguages so its actually very versatile but its not the easiest languages to learn or speak for some.

We do live in a time where these language wars are still going on, and langauge is not always easy to pick up and interpret. Many many children have been told NOT to speak their lanaguage because others will not understand it, but it is a relief and comfort to speak fluently in your own tongue and to be understood without having to constantly explain yourself.

I also think those of us who have the gift are better of using it for private prayer and singing (in tune) rather than blurting it out at random lol and of course you will always get accusatory people with no clue saying you are drunk if they cannot understand you.