Is it possible that Adam and the devil (satan, serpent, others) are the same person?

[RALEIGH1_W_W]

Given that GOD never mentioned creating a group of beings called 'angels' or any other name in HIS ACCOUNT of Creation, which is GENESIS 1 &2, and, given that Adam was the only person to whom the LORD GOD spoke the Commandment, and, given that Eve spoke the first untruth when she said GOD had forbiddened them from touching the Forbiddened Fruit, then, since Eve was deceived by the serpent and therefore cannot be the serpent, and the devil told the first lie, isn't it both logical and scriptural that Adam is the serpent, and the reason Mary had to be a virgin?

 

[BearerOfTheMorningStar]

Nope, Adam is the first man made in the image of God. Satan is just that pathetic old serpent that the fully Son of Man, seed of the Virgin Woman, and Son of God, Lord Jesus, kills at the end of the world, PRAISE JESUS!

 

[Ted01]

Given that GOD never mentioned creating a group of beings called 'angels' or any other name in HIS ACCOUNT of Creation, which is GENESIS 1 &2, and, given that Adam was the only person to whom the LORD GOD spoke the Commandment, and, given that Eve spoke the first untruth when she said GOD had forbiddened them from touching the Forbiddened Fruit, then, since Eve was deceived by the serpent and therefore cannot be the serpent, and the devil told the first lie, isn't it both logical and scriptural that Adam is the serpent, and the reason Mary had to be a virgin?

I don't think so.
Gen. 3:1 (ESV)
Now the serpent was more crafty than any other beast of the field that the LORD God had made.

The serpent was a "beast of the field"... Adam did not fall into that category.

 

[Cameron143]

Given that GOD never mentioned creating a group of beings called 'angels' or any other name in HIS ACCOUNT of Creation, which is GENESIS 1 &2, and, given that Adam was the only person to whom the LORD GOD spoke the Commandment, and, given that Eve spoke the first untruth when she said GOD had forbiddened them from touching the Forbiddened Fruit, then, since Eve was deceived by the serpent and therefore cannot be the serpent, and the devil told the first lie, isn't it both logical and scriptural that Adam is the serpent, and the reason Mary had to be a virgin?

Ummm...no. God isn't trying to confuse you. Just accept what's there.

 

[Mem]

These are good argument against the OP's idea so far, apart from pishawing it

but men reduce themselves to beasts all the time when they behave contrary to the image of God and are often referred to as such. It could well have been that Adam fell because he was double-minded, as scripture says, "a double-minded man is unstable in all his ways."

 

[PennEd]

Given that GOD never mentioned creating a group of beings called 'angels' or any other name in HIS ACCOUNT of Creation, which is GENESIS 1 &2, and, given that Adam was the only person to whom the LORD GOD spoke the Commandment, and, given that Eve spoke the first untruth when she said GOD had forbiddened them from touching the Forbiddened Fruit, then, since Eve was deceived by the serpent and therefore cannot be the serpent, and the devil told the first lie, isn't it both logical and scriptural that Adam is the serpent, and the reason Mary had to be a virgin?

kind of a bizarre theory. Of course angels are created beings:

Psalm 148:1–14
Praise the Name of the Lord
148 rPraise the Lord!
Praise the Lord sfrom the heavens;
praise him tin the heights!
2 Praise him, all his angels;
praise him, all his uhosts!
3 Praise him, sun and moon,
praise him, all you shining stars!
4 Praise him, you vhighest heavens,
and you wwaters above the heavens!
5 xLet them praise the name of the Lord!
For he commanded and they were created.



Colossians 1:16–17
16 For by him all things were created, lin heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things were created through him and for him. 17 And phe is before all things, and in him all things qhold together.

Ezekiel 28:13–17
13 You were in eEden, the garden of God;
fevery precious stone was your covering,
gsardius, topaz, and diamond,
beryl, onyx, and jasper,
sapphire,2 femerald, and carbuncle;
and crafted in gold were your settings
and your engravings.3
iOn the day that you were created
they were prepared.
14 You were an anointed jguardian cherub.
I placed you;4 you were on kthe holy mountain of God;
in the midst of the stones of fire you walked.
15 You were blameless in your ways
lfrom the day you were created,
till unrighteousness was found in you

 

[resto]

Read EZ ch 28 and 29. God does say He created Lucifer the "Day Star"

 

[Fundaamental]

Given that GOD never mentioned creating a group of beings called 'angels' or any other name in HIS ACCOUNT of Creation, which is GENESIS 1 &2, and, given that Adam was the only person to whom the LORD GOD spoke the Commandment, and, given that Eve spoke the first untruth when she said GOD had forbiddened them from touching the Forbiddened Fruit, then, since Eve was deceived by the serpent and therefore cannot be the serpent, and the devil told the first lie, isn't it both logical and scriptural that Adam is the serpent, and the reason Mary had to be a virgin?

if you read a bit further on you will see Adam Eve and the serpent all get punished

 

[resto]

If you want to take into consideration that during the 6 days of creation God Created stars and Angels are sometimes referred to as stars, Then Angels could have been created during the 6 days. Something to think about. "I Am God, There Is No One Besides Me". Before Creation there may have only been Elohim. The Singular Plural. Trinity. My Brain Hurts. I need Ice Cream

 

[Deuteronomy]

Given that GOD never mentioned creating a group of beings called 'angels' or any other name in HIS ACCOUNT of Creation, which is GENESIS 1 &2, and, given that Adam was the only person to whom the LORD GOD spoke the Commandment, and, given that Eve spoke the first untruth when she said GOD had forbiddened them from touching the Forbiddened Fruit, then, since Eve was deceived by the serpent and therefore cannot be the serpent, and the devil told the first lie, isn't it both logical and scriptural that Adam is the serpent, and the reason Mary had to be a virgin?

Hello RALEIGH1_W_W, first off, welcome to CChat! I'm glad that you found us and joined in the discussions with us

As for your question/proposition, the Bible tells us that the heavenly host was right there when the Lord finished forming the Earth, as well, then, when He created all of the life that exists here. For instance, consider what God said about the angels to Job in the following passage.

Job 38​

4 “Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? ​

Tell Me, if you have understanding, ​

5 Who set its measurements? Since you know. ​

Or who stretched the line on it? ​

6 “On what were its bases sunk? ​

Or who laid its cornerstone, ​

7 When the morning stars sang together ​

And all the sons of God shouted for joy?”​

You may also want to consider that the Lord meted out three different curses in Genesis 3, to Satan, to Eve, and finally to Adam, individually, IOW.

God bless you!!

~Deuteronomy

Genesis 3​

14 The LORD God said to the serpent, ​

“Because you have done this, ​

Cursed are you more than all cattle, ​

And more than every beast of the field; ​

On your belly you will go, ​

And dust you will eat ​

All the days of your life; ​

15 And I will put enmity ​

Between you and the woman, ​

And between your seed and her seed; ​

He shall bruise you on the head, ​

And you shall bruise him on the heel.” ​

16 To the woman He said, ​

“I will greatly multiply ​

Your pain in childbirth, ​

In pain you will bring forth children; ​

Yet your desire will be for your husband, ​

And he will rule over you.” ​

17 Then to Adam He said, “Because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat from it’; ​

Cursed is the ground because of you; ​

In toil you will eat of it ​

All the days of your life. ​

18 Both thorns and thistles it shall grow for you; ​

And you will eat the plants of the field; ​

19 By the sweat of your face ​

You will eat bread, ​

Till you return to the ground, ​

Because from it you were taken; ​

For you are dust, ​

And to dust you shall return.” ​

​

 

[Magenta]

Given that GOD never mentioned creating a group of beings called 'angels'
or any other name in HIS ACCOUNT of Creation, which is GENESIS 1 &2

Job 38:4-7 "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand.
Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone- while the morning stars sang
together and all the angels shouted for joy?"

 

[Cameron143]

Job 38:4-7 "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand.
Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it?
On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone- while the morning stars sang
together and all the angels shouted for joy?"

You should coordinate with Deuteronomy.

 

[Magenta]

You should coordinate with Deuteronomy.

Hmmm, well, I went looking through my post stream to find that, thinking
I had more verses to go along with it, and did get waylaid reading other things .

 

[Deuteronomy]

You should coordinate with Deuteronomy.

You know what they say about "great minds" brother.........................

Well, I'm not sure about the "great" part of the equation on my part, but at least it worked out in this case

 

[Cameron143]

Hmmm, well, I went looking through my post stream to find that, thinking
I had more verses to go along with it, and did get waylaid reading other things .

Sounds like you got bushwacked at the pass(age).

 

[Cameron143]

You know what they say about "great minds" brother.........................

Well, I'm not sure about the "great" part of the equation on my part, but at least it worked out in this case

According to that logic, don't not so great minds also think alike? Present company excepted, of course.

 

[Magenta]

Sounds like you got bushwacked at the pass(age).

I found that on page five of my post stream history, using foundation as my keyword for the search .

 

[Omegatime]

Given that GOD never mentioned creating a group of beings called 'angels' or any other name in HIS ACCOUNT of Creation, which is GENESIS 1 &2, and, given that Adam was the only person to whom the LORD GOD spoke the Commandment, and, given that Eve spoke the first untruth when she said GOD had forbiddened them from touching the Forbiddened Fruit, then, since Eve was deceived by the serpent and therefore cannot be the serpent, and the devil told the first lie, isn't it both logical and scriptural that Adam is the serpent, and the reason Mary had to be a virgin?

Foolish assumptions

 

[Cameron143]

I found that on page five of my post stream history, using foundation as my keyword for the search .

Do you ever go back and read your old messages and say...what was I thinking there?

 

[Mem]

"Just as Moses lifted up the (bronze) serpent in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, that everyone who believes in Him may have eternal life." John 3:14
I've heard tell bronze is representative of judgment yet, it is we that die with Christ.