DO YOU BELIEVE IN SPEAKING IN TONGUE'S ?
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Thank you, I' have to stir the POT,
I'm great with discussions, but not all that great with being preached at....
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There are so many videos online where they teach how to speak in tongues. If it is a gift or comes naturally, why do they need to teach you how to do it?
I believe in the cessation of the gifts of the Holy Spirit but I have reason to believe that Jesus is still in the business of healing illnesses.
There are so many videos online where they teach how to speak in tongues. If it is a gift or comes naturally, why do they need to teach you how to do it?
I believe in the cessation of the gifts of the Holy Spirit but I have reason to believe that Jesus is still in the business of healing illnesses.
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Without a doubt God is a master of the power of the Tongues and created all the real languages and grants mastery of them to his children. Yet are all of Satan's children and cults liars and imitators and proven by their own mouths to be the confused and deranged Children of Babel. Veritas Ardente Paganae, Morte Maleficarum, in nomine et Patris, et Fili, et Spiritus Sancti, ameno! Ave Jesu Christos!
a you know how the ot was Hebrew scriptire ? When God sent the gospel pit to all nations and languages tongues became a pracrical gift necassary for the spreading of the gospel to those who spoke other languages if you look at pentocost you can see the practicality of it and it’s usefulness and even it’s necessary within the church for sharing the gospel with someone that doesn’t speak the same language otherwise the gospel cold t be preached but to none nationality and people like the ot so you have this event
“But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judæa, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.”
Acts 1:8
this would require them to be able to speak on many languages and so
“And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues,( languages ) as the Spirit gave them utterance.”
Acts 2:4 KJV
“Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilæans? And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?”
Acts 2:6-8, 11-12 KJV
Already you see tongues working to draw thoer attention and curiousoty see they aren’t speaking jibborish or unknown languages but foreign human languages they didn’t know naturally the spirit had given them utterance to speak on all the languages of the people present the same things Jesus taught them in Aramaic and Hebrew now they are speaking it in many languages by the soirit because of the great commission it requires other languages if this is to be done
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.”
Mark 16:15-16, 20 KJV
every creature doesn’t speak the same language therefore tongues is needed and useful to spread the gospel think of it when earth began there was just one language designed by God but then because of mans sin and unity of rebellion against him God caused then to speak many different languages so they couldn’t communicate and work together against him
So the many nations were scattered and language seperated
“And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.”
Genesis 11:1, 7-8 KJV
Now there are many nations and languages but only israel is chosen and scripture is only given in Hebrew and Aramaic u til the reconciliation begins when the nations are being brought back to one and so the opposite God gives them the ability to communicate again and understand each other innorder that the gospel is able to reach all men in any language
I’m not saying anything else isn’t true just that to view is a practical d necassary gift for the growth of the church otherwise it would be limited to one language speakers and anyone with another tongue could never hear the gospel
diversity of tongues is a practical linguistical gift necassary for the church to grow and expand into all the world
“But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judæa, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.”
Acts 1:8
this would require them to be able to speak on many languages and so
“And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues,( languages ) as the Spirit gave them utterance.”
Acts 2:4 KJV
“Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language. And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilæans? And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born? Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. And they were all amazed, and were in doubt, saying one to another, What meaneth this?”
Acts 2:6-8, 11-12 KJV
Already you see tongues working to draw thoer attention and curiousoty see they aren’t speaking jibborish or unknown languages but foreign human languages they didn’t know naturally the spirit had given them utterance to speak on all the languages of the people present the same things Jesus taught them in Aramaic and Hebrew now they are speaking it in many languages by the soirit because of the great commission it requires other languages if this is to be done
“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.”
Mark 16:15-16, 20 KJV
every creature doesn’t speak the same language therefore tongues is needed and useful to spread the gospel think of it when earth began there was just one language designed by God but then because of mans sin and unity of rebellion against him God caused then to speak many different languages so they couldn’t communicate and work together against him
So the many nations were scattered and language seperated
“And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech. Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.”
Genesis 11:1, 7-8 KJV
Now there are many nations and languages but only israel is chosen and scripture is only given in Hebrew and Aramaic u til the reconciliation begins when the nations are being brought back to one and so the opposite God gives them the ability to communicate again and understand each other innorder that the gospel is able to reach all men in any language
I’m not saying anything else isn’t true just that to view is a practical d necassary gift for the growth of the church otherwise it would be limited to one language speakers and anyone with another tongue could never hear the gospel
diversity of tongues is a practical linguistical gift necassary for the church to grow and expand into all the world
why do you always choose not to add Knowledge with such statements?
To put it into context, in 1900 human knowledge doubled approximately every 100 years. By the end of 1945, the rate was every 25 years. The “Knowledge Doubling Curve”, as it's commonly known, was created by Buckminster Fuller in 1982.
what about Today?
The Volume of knowledge is doubling every 12 hours
if knowledge is INCREASING, and grouped with Prophecy and Tongues, how is it possible that Tongues and Prophecy would be Ceasing?
since knowledge is INCREASING, and ALL of us can use this KNOWLEDGE, we KNOW Tongues and Prophecy have not Ceased, SOME just rather Deceive others than obey the Word of God.
i wonder where do Deceivers, claiming to be Followers of Christ, go when they die?
To put it into context, in 1900 human knowledge doubled approximately every 100 years. By the end of 1945, the rate was every 25 years. The “Knowledge Doubling Curve”, as it's commonly known, was created by Buckminster Fuller in 1982.
what about Today?
The Volume of knowledge is doubling every 12 hours
if knowledge is INCREASING, and grouped with Prophecy and Tongues, how is it possible that Tongues and Prophecy would be Ceasing?
since knowledge is INCREASING, and ALL of us can use this KNOWLEDGE, we KNOW Tongues and Prophecy have not Ceased, SOME just rather Deceive others than obey the Word of God.
i wonder where do Deceivers, claiming to be Followers of Christ, go when they die?
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21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’
23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’
23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’
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Nice to hear from you, my friend. But I don't know why you replied this to me. You didn't answer the question I asked. I already know one of the aspects of speaking in tongues is sharing the gospel by speaking a language you don't know to someone who does speak it. Again, your reply did answer the question is asked.
I don't know if you were trying to say "The Reconciliation" has something to do with it... but your explanation didn't follow either. People still speak different languages. And although it sure helps to speak in tongues to deliver the gospel, I've never heard of when it was required. Usually, the missionary found a translator, and sometimes the missionary learned the language themselves.
But again, I'm not interested in theories. What '17Brees' posted sounds like an established doctrine/belief (the Apostolic Age has ended and with it all gifts from the Holy Spirit). I'm just asking him why he believes that, where he got that from. If someone else knows, I'm interested, but please be succinct as possible.
I don't know if you were trying to say "The Reconciliation" has something to do with it... but your explanation didn't follow either. People still speak different languages. And although it sure helps to speak in tongues to deliver the gospel, I've never heard of when it was required. Usually, the missionary found a translator, and sometimes the missionary learned the language themselves.
But again, I'm not interested in theories. What '17Brees' posted sounds like an established doctrine/belief (the Apostolic Age has ended and with it all gifts from the Holy Spirit). I'm just asking him why he believes that, where he got that from. If someone else knows, I'm interested, but please be succinct as possible.
The "knowledge" Paul was speaking about is supernatural knowledge pertaining to spiritual things -- not ordinary knowledge derived from a study of natural laws and their application.
Prophecies, tongues, and supernatural knowledge are all related to divine revelations. At the time there was no written New Testament, so these three gifts were necessary. Once the NT was completed, they ceased. And Church History confirms this. Not one of the Apostolic Fathers or any of the Early Church Fathers claimed to be an apostle or prophet, neither did they claim to speak in tongues. At the same time, there is a whole raft of spiritual gifts waiting to be put to use.
Prophecies, tongues, and supernatural knowledge are all related to divine revelations. At the time there was no written New Testament, so these three gifts were necessary. Once the NT was completed, they ceased. And Church History confirms this. Not one of the Apostolic Fathers or any of the Early Church Fathers claimed to be an apostle or prophet, neither did they claim to speak in tongues. At the same time, there is a whole raft of spiritual gifts waiting to be put to use.
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this is around the year 420 AD, some 380 + years later:
Augustine, Bishop of Hippo (northern Africa), one of the four great fathers of the Latin Church and considered the greatest of them all said: “We still do what the apostles did when they laid hands on the Samaritans and called down the Holy Spirit on them in the laying-on of hands. It is expected that converts should speak with new tongues”
I WONDER which LIAR later on claimed this stopped in the New Testament so it FORCED others to STOP?
no wonder GOD Revived it!
hahahaha this has to bite for the cessasionist!
Augustine, Bishop of Hippo (northern Africa), one of the four great fathers of the Latin Church and considered the greatest of them all said: “We still do what the apostles did when they laid hands on the Samaritans and called down the Holy Spirit on them in the laying-on of hands. It is expected that converts should speak with new tongues”
I WONDER which LIAR later on claimed this stopped in the New Testament so it FORCED others to STOP?
no wonder GOD Revived it!
hahahaha this has to bite for the cessasionist!