Ukraine the bad guy?

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Fundaamental

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Even consider the divine nature of the deal supposedly made. So Putin in his own words has now made a deal with a terrorist and traitor. What can he expect? Prigozhin by his own mouth believes the promise of clemency from one he even calls a Liar! Deals with the Devil are always so one-sided and all promises will be betrayed. The error of the Darkness is that they refuse to do what is right and they forsake the Light. Therefore their downfall ensured and their doom complete to their own condemnation, PRAISE JESUS!
you keep saying praise Jesus at inappropriate times.

But anyhow are you convinced zelenski hasn't made any deals with terrorists ?. Just wondered
 

JohnDB

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Today the biggest fear is from the Zapporizia nuclear power plant....immense by the size of Chernobyl.

It currently is under Russian control.

Now Nuclear plants are engineered kinda like gas stations or the reverse of fire alarms.

Unless all conditions are perfect the fission reaction is immediately shut down. It takes something sudden and catastrophic in order to have an accident. And running out of water because the dam was destroyed two weeks ago isn't it.
According to reports Russia is ready to destroy 4 of the 5 generating stations....letting loose a huge amount of radiation. Chernobyl has a 17 mile radius that people can't enter....this one will have a 90 mile radius minimum....

As a result, NATO has declared if anything becomes nuclear article 5 will apply and its all over for Russia.
 

Fundaamental

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Sounds about right

By both Russia and NATO both not deploying nuclear weapons the war can continue and they both get seen as Good guys 👍
 
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you keep saying praise Jesus at inappropriate times.

But anyhow are you convinced zelenski hasn't made any deals with terrorists ?. Just wondered
PRAISE JESUS!

Exodus 15:6-13


6 Thy right hand, O Lord, is become glorious in power: thy right hand, O Lord, hath dashed in pieces the enemy.

7 And in the greatness of thine excellency thou hast overthrown them that rose up against thee: thou sentest forth thy wrath, which consumed them as stubble.

8 And with the blast of thy nostrils the waters were gathered together, the floods stood upright as an heap, and the depths were congealed in the heart of the sea.

9 The enemy said, I will pursue, I will overtake, I will divide the spoil; my lust shall be satisfied upon them; I will draw my sword, my hand shall destroy them.

10 Thou didst blow with thy wind, the sea covered them: they sank as lead in the mighty waters.

11 Who is like unto thee, O Lord, among the gods? who is like thee, glorious in holiness, fearful in praises, doing wonders?

12 Thou stretchedst out thy right hand, the earth swallowed them.
 

Fundaamental

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PRAISE JESUS!

Exodus 15:6-13


6 Thy right hand, O Lord, is become glorious in power: thy right hand, O Lord, hath dashed in pieces the enemy.

7 And in the greatness of thine excellency thou hast overthrown them that rose up against thee: thou sentest forth thy wrath, which consumed them as stubble.

8 And with the blast of thy nostrils the waters were gathered together, the floods stood upright as an heap, and the depths were congealed in the heart of the sea.

9 The enemy said, I will pursue, I will overtake, I will divide the spoil; my lust shall be satisfied upon them; I will draw my sword, my hand shall destroy them.

10 Thou didst blow with thy wind, the sea covered them: they sank as lead in the mighty waters.

11 Who is like unto thee, O Lord, among the gods? who is like thee, glorious in holiness, fearful in praises, doing wonders?

12 Thou stretchedst out thy right hand, the earth swallowed them.
same as always I see.

Not answering questions and only standing behind your views.

Whats up with you man ?

Can't you have a discussion in open forum about conspiracies ?
 

cv5

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According to reports SOMEBODY is ready to destroy 4 of the 5 generating stations....letting loose a huge amount of radiation.
So what you are saying is that the same people that destroyed the NS gas spipeline are going to destroy the generating stations? Now this I can believe.....especially given the present status of the war. With Wagner 100km fron Kyiv and Belarus obtaining nuclear weapons and all.
 
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same as always I see.

Not answering questions and only standing behind your views.

Whats up with you man ?

Can't you have a discussion in open forum about conspiracies ?
I openly have been praising Jesus for his destruction of Unholy Russia and all their wicked conspiracies to wickedly kill the good guys of Ukraine for their Unholy Russian lusts and lies just like Moses promised will happen to the wicked, nations, that foolishly fight against a Living God and a God that is strong and active. Have some more, truth and information gladly I share the evidence of God's might and power and glory, PRAISE JESUS!

 

ZNP

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Today the biggest fear is from the Zapporizia nuclear power plant....immense by the size of Chernobyl.

It currently is under Russian control.

Now Nuclear plants are engineered kinda like gas stations or the reverse of fire alarms.

Unless all conditions are perfect the fission reaction is immediately shut down. It takes something sudden and catastrophic in order to have an accident. And running out of water because the dam was destroyed two weeks ago isn't it.
According to reports Russia is ready to destroy 4 of the 5 generating stations....letting loose a huge amount of radiation. Chernobyl has a 17 mile radius that people can't enter....this one will have a 90 mile radius minimum....

As a result, NATO has declared if anything becomes nuclear article 5 will apply and its all over for Russia.
I thought it was all over for Russia last week, didn't you say it looked like a coup?
 

gb9

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same as always I see.

Not answering questions and only standing behind your views.

Whats up with you man ?

Can't you have a discussion in open forum about conspiracies ?
i have interacting with him in the past ( i do not anymore) and the answer seems to be no...
 
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I thought it was all over for Russia last week, didn't you say it looked like a coup?
Lol one week ago from today, June 18th you were referencing Sean Penn. And don't take that as a sleight, it is actually fair enough because it is funny, PRAISE JESUS!
 

ZNP

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Lol one week ago from today, June 18th you were referencing Sean Penn. And don't take that as a sleight, it is actually fair enough because it is funny, PRAISE JESUS!
One week ago I was referencing Sean Penn? see next post, I have referenced the post
 

ZNP

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National Enquirer level? Really? They brought in Sean Penn, that is an A list actor, this effort is on par with the movie Wag the Dog and should be eligible for an Oscar. This is Oscar level work!
Here is the post. Sean Penn was brought into Ukraine about a year ago to help sell the war.
 

ZNP

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He has good information, makes some valid points, strongly questions the narrative that Russia would blow of the power plant. He also discusses inferential evidence that the western powers were in on the coup. To me there is no need to debate this, if for example, the US gave this guy $6 billion to stage a coup, then it is certain Putin knows that by now. The evidence is $6 billion and that is undeniable, proof beyond all reasonable doubt.
 

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Prigozhin is exiled to Belarus and is accused of going rouge,,,,,just after Russia put tactical nukes there,,,get it?
 

Fundaamental

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I openly have been praising Jesus for his destruction of Unholy Russia and all their wicked conspiracies to wickedly kill the good guys of Ukraine for their Unholy Russian lusts and lies just like Moses promised will happen to the wicked, nations, that foolishly fight against a Living God and a God that is strong and active. Have some more, truth and information gladly I share the evidence of God's might and power and glory, PRAISE JESUS!

I find it offensive to openly praise Jesus for the death of many russian soldiers, who I know don't really want to fight this war.

I witnessed them pleading with Ukrainian civilians to not make the situation worse than it allready was.

I also know the heart break many russians are going through as a result of this war

You keep saying unholy Russia, which means every russian person, your asking me to praise Jesus for genocide.

I can't do it.

Your asking me praise Jesus for organisations like NATO who do deals with terrorists

Can't do it.

I find it offensive.

I would ask you stop it and be more open in realising zelenski is also doing dealings with terrorists,

All governments are all the same, rich terrorists, they get richer whilst civilians get poorer.


So wake up and smell the coffee.
 
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I find it offensive to openly praise Jesus for the death of many russian soldiers, who I know don't really want to fight this war.

I witnessed them pleading with Ukrainian civilians to not make the situation worse than it allready was.

I also know the heart break many russians are going through as a result of this war

You keep saying unholy Russia, which means every russian person, your asking me to praise Jesus for genocide.

I can't do it.

Your asking me praise Jesus for organisations like NATO who do deals with terrorists

Can't do it.

I find it offensive.

I would ask you stop it and be more open in realising zelenski is also doing dealings with terrorists,

All governments are all the same, rich terrorists, they get richer whilst civilians get poorer.


So wake up and smell the coffee.
If they did not want to serve Unholy Russia which has been excommunicated from the body of Christ for their grievous declaring war against God, they could have done so, they could easily flee or rise up in holy revolution and sanctify Russia. Don't make a defense for God enemies, your arguments do not convince me. Death to them, watch since you doubt his power and his glory, God himself will fight them and he is a Living God and this will be proven all the time, and we will praise his name even to the pain of death for his glory. Especially now all the world even the heathens must know that there is a God and he is strong, they must know of Putin's doom in their hearts as they saw just how EASILY God's hand took Prigozhin to the outskirts of Moscow, how all their peers cheer for the possibility that Satan's bastard son Putin will get thrown into hell. You do not understand Unholy Russia is a spiritual principality, it will be destroyed. Thoroughly, we will praise Jesus for both the way he proves he is God by saving the righteous, the good guys, Ukraine, and edifying and strengthening them against all of man's vain science "odds" by the power of the Truth of our God. Take note that we will also praise Jesus how by his might he proves he is God who avenges and smites the Wicked, how his hand destroys Wicked Russia because they served the spiritual evil master, Satan, the father of Lies and Wicked Russia started this WAR OF LIES by forsaking blaspheming God, death to Kirill. Death to Satan and all his children and we don't care if they are offended at all at their damnation and doom and frankly by just saying PRAISE JESUS we are really just being brief, if you really want to force us we will just use his full royal titles, and praise him more just this once for a taste instead of every single time, he is the God, praise him, we will continue to PRAISE JESUS THE LIVING WORD OF GOD VICTORIOUS AND UNDEFEATED INVICIBLE THE LAMB OF GOD KING OF KINGS FAITHFUL AND TRUE SHEPHERD WIELDER OF THE ULTIMATE SWORD OF TRUTH THE GOD OF HOLY VENGEANCE JPRINCE OF PEACE JUDGE OF ALL CREATIONS AND BRIGHT MORNING STAR HIGH PRIEST OF ETERNITY THE GOSPEL CHRIST JESUS!
 

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Western nations will paint anybody who challenges them or who does something they don't want them to do as the 'bad guy'.
The reality RE Russia/Ukraine is this: The EU are on a power grab and invited Ukraine to join. Same for NATO.
Russia, perfectly understandably, saw this as a threat.
 

Fundaamental

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If they did not want to serve Unholy Russia which has been excommunicated from the body of Christ for their grievous declaring war against God, they could have done so, they could easily flee or rise up in holy revolution and sanctify Russia. Don't make a defense for God enemies, your arguments do not convince me. Death to them, watch since you doubt his power and his glory, God himself will fight them and he is a Living God and this will be proven all the time, and we will praise his name even to the pain of death for his glory. Especially now all the world even the heathens must know that there is a God and he is strong, they must know of Putin's doom in their hearts as they saw just how EASILY God's hand took Prigozhin to the outskirts of Moscow, how all their peers cheer for the possibility that Satan's bastard son Putin will get thrown into hell. You do not understand Unholy Russia is a spiritual principality, it will be destroyed. Thoroughly, we will praise Jesus for both the way he proves he is God by saving the righteous, the good guys, Ukraine, and edifying and strengthening them against all of man's vain science "odds" by the power of the Truth of our God. Take note that we will also praise Jesus how by his might he proves he is God who avenges and smites the Wicked, how his hand destroys Wicked Russia because they served the spiritual evil master, Satan, the father of Lies and Wicked Russia started this WAR OF LIES by forsaking blaspheming God, death to Kirill. Death to Satan and all his children and we don't care if they are offended at all at their damnation and doom and frankly by just saying PRAISE JESUS we are really just being brief, if you really want to force us we will just use his full royal titles, and praise him more just this once for a taste instead of every single time, he is the God, praise him, we will continue to PRAISE JESUS THE LIVING WORD OF GOD VICTORIOUS AND UNDEFEATED INVICIBLE THE LAMB OF GOD KING OF KINGS FAITHFUL AND TRUE SHEPHERD WIELDER OF THE ULTIMATE SWORD OF TRUTH THE GOD OF HOLY VENGEANCE JPRINCE OF PEACE JUDGE OF ALL CREATIONS AND BRIGHT MORNING STAR HIGH PRIEST OF ETERNITY THE GOSPEL CHRIST JESUS!
There simply isn't any valid reason, again you ignore my request,

I'll give you one last chance and if you continue, that's it. Your bridges will be burnt with me.

Theres are hardly any russian people who would say no to Russia because of being scared of russia to say no

Have you read about endless social media reports, about what happens to people when they do say no to Russia and dont do what there asked too do.

If you continue to ask me to praise Jesus for the death of those kind of people,

Then that's it your final bridge will be burnt.

Do you want that or would you rather honor a request 🙂