In your opinion do you believe world is about 6000 years old

[Lanolin]

If Jewish calendar is accurate at 5783 years then we are a still fair way off as most people living now will not live 213 years in the flesh to see the year 6000

so sorry to disappoint everyone looking for the 'end times'. How about you just live your life the number of days God has alloted you, many of us dont know the day or hour until the Lord takes us home though some DO get told beforehand in what manner they will die.

 

[Lanolin]

As for days..God can extend days as long as he wants as He is in charge of night and day. Day is not restricted to 24 hours (thats a roman measurement?) day just basically means there is light to see by. Night means there is no light.

In antarctica and in the north pole you CAN get 24 hour days at certain times of the year. Its the land of the midnight sun after all but at other times of the year you will get very short days. Depends on where you are geographically

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

it can be argued friend radionuclides elements as well as something that cant be destroyed can also create particles.

Who can argue that knowing God is Creator and has the ability to destroy all things?

Who came up with the names radionuclides or particles?

Man did and man also defined it.

Who is man to tell God He can't destroy something they claim cannot be destroyed?

 

[Fundaamental]

Who can argue that knowing God is Creator and has the ability to destroy all things?

Who came up with the phrase radionuclides or particles?

Man did and man also defined it.

Who is man to tell God He can't destroy something they claim cannot be destroyed?

I was hoping you would use your beautiful imagination, you've showed allready 😊

It is conceivable to believe God created certain elements in creation to be.

1 un-destroyable

2 to re-create for him.

Theres your understanding for hebrews 2 peter 3:10, which is the foundation will only melt and reform.
LTV
Destroyed and then reformed

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

I was hoping you would use your beautiful imagination, you've showed allready 😊

It is conceivable to believe God created certain elements in creation to be.

1 un-destroyable

2 to re-create for him.

Theres your understanding for hebrews 2 peter 3:10, which is the foundation will only melt and reform.
LTV
Destroyed and then reformed

i don't know the SYSTEM, Jesus, will have in place once His Kingdom is set up physically. i suppose gold and silver are still used for money. i suppose the Saved will have unlimited amounts at their disposal. plus, the other people that represent the Nations. i would guess there will be business and such during the Mill Reign, maybe past the Mill Reign until Forever.

There would be a need for these. but for the majority of things like nuclei for atomic explosions, there's no need i perceive.

 

[Fundaamental]

i don't know the SYSTEM, Jesus, will have in place once His Kingdom is set up physically. i suppose gold and silver are still used for money. i suppose the Saved will have unlimited amounts at their disposal. plus, the other people that represent the Nations. i would guess there will be business and such during the Mill Reign, maybe past the Mill Reign until Forever.

There would be a need for these. but for the majority of things like nuclei for atomic explosions, there's no need i perceive.

when ever Jesus speaks about Foundations there generally conceived as eternal.
As in the word.

We see a chief Corner stone being referred to as eternal.

We also see the foundations of the earth being referred to as pillars

In the sence the scripture states the earth was rested upon its foundations.

It's not then inconceivable to believe the foundations of the earth is also a type of corner stone, given the amount of other scriptures provided.

Or the very principal of How God's mind is eternal.

Or how he's always speaking of eternal things.

He always going to be creating with eternal thoughts in mind.

Then we have all his precious gem stones both in his kingdom añd ours.

They say heaven is a place on earth. And heaven is eternal.

Well there's your proof 😊

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

when ever Jesus speaks about Foundations there generally conceived as eternal.
As in the word.

We see a chief Corner stone being referred to as eternal.

We also see the foundations of the earth being referred to as pillars

In the sence the scripture states the earth was rested upon its foundations.

It's not then inconceivable to believe the foundations of the earth is also a type of corner stone, given the amount of other scriptures provided.

Or the very principal of How God's mind is eternal.

Or how he's always speaking of eternal things.

He always going to be creating with eternal thoughts in mind.

Then we have all his precious gem stones both in his kingdom añd ours.

They say heaven is a place on earth. And heaven is eternal.

Well there's your proof 😊

the issue here is you are taking Verses that describe how God has built His Kingdom and Church with Verses that describe physical Earth and Laws of Physics.

the idea you suggested...allow your mind to IMAGINE, still requires keeping Scripture in the compound meaning to its original intent. if we could just place Verses anywhere, we get ideas like TULIP, Prosperity, we are little gods, you know, the Stupid Doctrines!

 

[Fundaamental]

the issue here is you are taking Verses that describe how God has built His Kingdom and Church with Verses that describe physical Earth and Laws of Physics.

the idea you suggested...allow your mind to IMAGINE, still requires keeping Scripture in the compound meaning to its original intent. if we could just place Verses anywhere, we get ideas like TULIP, Prosperity, we are little gods, you know, the Stupid Doctrines!

That's an argument that shuts the lid.

It's up to you of course if you want to live in a box and not be open to discussion on certain matters.

But you'll find foundations are protected.

And my suggestions are also based on the same principle that suggests scripture can indicate the earth is 11500 years old,.

Well there's other suggestions that suggest the foundations are alot older.

They all bring the 6000 year date for a rapture into question.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

That's an argument that shuts the lid.

It's up to you of course if you want to live in a box and not be open to discussion on certain matters.

But you'll find foundations are protected.

And my suggestions are also based on the same principle that suggests scripture can indicate the earth is 11500 years old,.

Well there's other suggestions that suggest the foundations are alot older.

They all bring the 6000 year date for a rapture into question.

foundations are Laws of Physics, those are secure until God chooses for them not to be.

and really, the Earths Age don't matter, because it only matters from time Jesus ascended until He Returns.
that's a 2,000 around there hard limit window.

in seeking answers for the End, the Beginning means nothing, it's the Marker/Appearance of Christ that matters.

 

[Fundaamental]

foundations are Laws of Physics, those a secure until God chooses for them not to be.
and really, the Earths Age don't matter, because it only matters from time Jesus ascended until He Returns.
that's a 2,000 around there hard limit window.

in seeking answers for the End, the Beginning means nothing, it's the Marker/Appearance of Christ that matters.

you keep bringing the law of physics into it. Which really is how how creation can swap and change or re create. Another object controlled by the law of physics can make another object change direction. You see it as one motion, I don't. I see it as Gods design.

Then on the other hand your saying I'm just exlainging how creation is built.

When all along I have been discussing how the earth could be older.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

This will be 2 posts so wait until I finish to understand what I am saying here.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

i work as R&D

left picture are gages, from the actual Company I worked for, each boeing jet engine has 1500 pieces to it and requires a gage, bible, for each piece before the pieces can be assembled and become an engine that flies us all over the world. those gages are mathematically trigged by me and held to within .0000008 [80 millionths close to perfect zero].

right picture are gear boxes i designed in current day satellites. i am grinding them to .0001 flatness.

i currently take Biology, Metallurgy, Chemistry and create a Mathematical Formula to make a compound for scientific medical human joint replacements.

you can't fool me!

you keep bringing up foundations.
but seem to hate the fact that foundations mean Laws of Physics, which i continue to point out.

you went all science on me then adding scripture for one thing to create another thing, and now you're mad over Laws of Physics because they mean Foundations.

 

[Fundaamental]

i work as R&D

left picture are gages, from the actual Company I worked for, each boeing jet engine has 1500 pieces to it and requires a gage, bible, for each piece before the pieces can be assembled and become an engine that flies us all over the world. those gages are mathematically trigged by me and held to within .0000008 [80 millionths close to perfect zero].

right picture are gear boxes i designed in current day satellites. i am grinding them to .0001 flatness.

i currently take Biology, Metallurgy, Chemistry and make a compound for scientific medical human joint replacements.

you can't fool me!

you keep bringing up foundations.
but seem to hate the fact that foundations mean Laws of Physics, which i continue to point out.

you went all science on me then adding scripture for one thing to create another thing, and now you're mad over Laws of Physics because they mean Foundations.

oh so your also using your intelligence to think I have no intelligence,
Añd I've just waited ten minutes for that.

A student can Excell is master friend you know that.

But I have actually been to uni for a degree in engineering mathematics level 2:1 , I also completed a 1 year an MSc yacht engineering course which covers how to design yachts and analyse award = master of science degree.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

if, when the Lord Returns, all of space gets ate up and dispersed, the earth becomes emblazed in a fire purifying it. then God set His Kingdom upon Earth. if all of Space is gone, what are the Laws of Physics doing for the Earth? the Laws are only in place when there's Space. so the Foundations are GONE because God is sustaining Earth during this time.

 

[Fundaamental]

if, when the Lord Returns, all of space gets ate up and dispersed, the earth becomes emblazed in a fire purifying it. then God set His Kingdom upon Earth. if all of Space is gone, what are the Laws of Physics doing for the Earth? the Laws are only in place when there's Space. so the Foundations are GONE because God is sustaining Earth during this time.

there are foundations in the law of physics, but the law of physics are not the foundations itself.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

there are foundations in the law of physics, but the law of physics are not the foundations itself.

do you understand what you are saying here?
it matches this Verse:
Psalm 104:5
He established the earth upon its foundations,
So that it will not totter forever and ever.

the Laws of Physics are just definitions to these foundations called Laws of Physics.
so even the Laws Themselves will not do their job, the Foundations to the Laws are going to Fail [not totter forever and ever]

 

[Fundaamental]

do you understand what you are saying here?
it matches this Verse:
Psalm 104:5
He established the earth upon its foundations,
So that it will not totter forever and ever.

the Laws of Physics are just definitions to these foundations called Laws of Physics.
so even the Laws Themselves will not do their job, the Foundations to the Laws are going to Fail [not totter forever and ever]

yes I do.

I understand the scientific point your trying to make to.

I've heard it from friends.

We have had long discussions about it.

How ever your seeing the earth as the foundations. ( The two are separate).

The earth is placed on the foundations.

If they where no foundations the earth would totter.

If you take the earth away the foundations are still there but the foundations will not totter.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

yes I do.

I understand the scientific point your trying to make to.

I've heard it from friends.

We have had long discussions about it.

How ever your seeing the earth as the foundations. ( The two are separate).

The earth is placed on the foundations.

If they where no foundations the earth would totter.

If you take the earth away the foundations are still there but the foundations will not totter.

it's amazing. we read same thing and have opposite understandings. for me, the fact God mentions not just this entire thought [it will not totter forever and ever] but this specific portion [not forever and ever] is rather ALARMING!!

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

and when i pointed out my mathematical experiences, it's to show i know when God burns the earth, AFTER, God first destroys the Space, there's nothing the Foundations or Laws of Physics can do because they depend upon the Sun, which is now gone, and the other Planets, now gone, the Moon, now gone, and the Stars, in this specific Galaxy will be gone, and then all of the other Galaxies, all gone.

as a Mathematician, that answer seems rather Obvious!

 

[Fundaamental]

and when i pointed out my mathematical experiences, it's to show i know when God burns the earth, AFTER, God first destroys the Space, there's nothing the Foundations or Laws of Physics can do because they depend upon the Sun, which is now gone, and the other Planets, now gone, the Moon, now gone, and the Stars, in this specific Galaxy will be gone, and then all of the other Galaxies all gone.

as a Mathematician, that answer seems rather Obvious!

only if you see something being destroyed as disintegrated having one meaning.

When the sun shines no more the lord will be the light. The sun is mainly made up of a carbon element which can be no more.
Remember Genesis indicates Two lights.

But there are parts of a sun that can remain which is known as a foundation, it known as a white dwarf.