Is it OK for our churches to have Christmas trees, bingo games, or Easter egg hunts?ts,
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You don't have to go to the other extreme.... I just find it a little tedious when people purport to speak for God... as if God directly tells them, "hey, I really, REALLY don't like that whole easter bunny thing...." We don't know that. I'm in favor of nearly anything that brings people closer to God. I don't know that the easter bunny does that, but it does get the kids out, and makes the day a special day.... it's up to us as parents and mentors to teach the kids the REAL reason for the season....
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No, of course not.... unless I was working on some emergency repair when it became time to go assemble.
You make it sound as if it's one extreme or the other..... there is a middle ground, you know....
I wear comfortable clothes like I wear every day.
I do not "wear the best I have" just to try to please God.... because I positively don't think God cares what I wear. I think we please God by our actions, not by dressing pretty. Silly me...
You make it sound as if it's one extreme or the other..... there is a middle ground, you know....
I wear comfortable clothes like I wear every day.
I do not "wear the best I have" just to try to please God.... because I positively don't think God cares what I wear. I think we please God by our actions, not by dressing pretty. Silly me...
And why is it special for kids? Because they get treats? Or is it because of the resurrection of Christ? Should we not celebrate the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth when it comes to Easter and Christmas? Lying is never an option. Btw, nothing to break fellowship with...just a discussion.
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I wear my personal best on sunday to church and try to step it up a bit for ressurrection celebration. This year i got a new vest and my wife got a dress that matched one of my shirts.
My personal best is not what others would call their personal best, but we all have our own positions in life. As a mechanic im just a working class joe.
My personal best is not what others would call their personal best, but we all have our own positions in life. As a mechanic im just a working class joe.
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IMO, there's something insidious about discouraging a child's imagination, although I'm not equipped with enough knowledge to explain exactly why. But this is the result of the internet of things, and entertainment media in general. I'll try to summarize the teaching that I happened to take in on the subject. Compare the percentage of kids that love to read books and those that'd rather just watch a movie. Watching a movie requires minimal mental exertion, and this is why it is called a-muse-ment, because you can do it apart from musing, or thinking much about it. Movies show you what to think, while reading is a practice in how to think. Reading engages one's imagination, as Einstein is quoted, “Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.” ― Albert Einstein
What child has ever actually grown up to hold Santa Claus or Easter Bunny grudges against their parents?
What child has ever actually grown up to hold Santa Claus or Easter Bunny grudges against their parents?
I resent your decision that you know my mind, saying I do not want my question answered. I made this post because I wanted this question discussed. I am so disappointed that it degenerated to a silly discussion about bingo being a sin, changing the subject completely from a discussion of what is OK to include in our churches.
However, I find the thought of bingo in the community rooms as people sharing good times together a good thought. Christ loved a party and friends sharing fellowship.
However, I find the thought of bingo in the community rooms as people sharing good times together a good thought. Christ loved a party and friends sharing fellowship.
What's that old saying "the pot calling the kettle black". Not sure what "Churches" were playing target practice on. This is a very wise great way to get God to take notice of you though. I am sure this didn't lead into go down the path of gossip. Well seems we can, like the woke world today just redefine the word gossip.
The love just flows in this thread for others huh. Look where this went. In all of this why not try to see what we "say" or confess we believe.. see what Christ sees. Yes yes I know its all those other "Christians" and "Churches" that are disobeying God becoming more and more like the pagans of the past. pffft
What comes to mind is "I would rather you were hot or cold". This is not hot nor cold. IF this was based in love.. something good would have been shared first as a few tried to do. Not sure how this is any different...its that club that group that pats each other on the back I see allot here by some. But maybe the true intent is just being hidden.. yeah that's it. I am not thinking about anyone.. this is about the whole of this thread. Speak words of life.. speak so those that hear read so it shows grace unto the hearers. IF there is some CHURCH doing these things.. maybe talk to that pastor about it where both can talk pray about it.. I don't know.. YES I have and do this for over 30years now.
The love just flows in this thread for others huh. Look where this went. In all of this why not try to see what we "say" or confess we believe.. see what Christ sees. Yes yes I know its all those other "Christians" and "Churches" that are disobeying God becoming more and more like the pagans of the past. pffft
What comes to mind is "I would rather you were hot or cold". This is not hot nor cold. IF this was based in love.. something good would have been shared first as a few tried to do. Not sure how this is any different...its that club that group that pats each other on the back I see allot here by some. But maybe the true intent is just being hidden.. yeah that's it. I am not thinking about anyone.. this is about the whole of this thread. Speak words of life.. speak so those that hear read so it shows grace unto the hearers. IF there is some CHURCH doing these things.. maybe talk to that pastor about it where both can talk pray about it.. I don't know.. YES I have and do this for over 30years now.
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This has already been tested by the difference in pagan children brought up on nursery rhymes, Santa Clause and Easter bunnies, and Jewish children brought up on scripture stories and memory verses. The Jewish children are not taught about Christ, yet if you google for statistics on the difference between that two, you find the Jewish children surpass the pagan ones in everything.
My study was a rhetorical study in that there's no actual study that I'm aware of other than that of taking of an example of a bookworm and an example of a movie buff and comparing personalities. But not that this is meant to deride movie buffs of which is among my many interests. The study you referred to, if it were an actually conducted study, strikes me as though it might've been conducted by a particularly biased group of experimenters? No?
Oh, lighten up, Francis....
It was a COMPARISON.... if women can buy new clothes to present their best selves to God, why NOT take it further? If I said I would buy a $1000 suit to dress in reverence, would that make you feel better about it?
You, calling me abusive? That's a laugh.... a sad laugh, but a laugh, nonetheless.... I see your posts on this forum... You cover yourself in clothes of self-righteousness, and berate and ridicule anyone that dares to disagree with you.... at least I offer legitimate arguments for my positions.....
It was a COMPARISON.... if women can buy new clothes to present their best selves to God, why NOT take it further? If I said I would buy a $1000 suit to dress in reverence, would that make you feel better about it?
You, calling me abusive? That's a laugh.... a sad laugh, but a laugh, nonetheless.... I see your posts on this forum... You cover yourself in clothes of self-righteousness, and berate and ridicule anyone that dares to disagree with you.... at least I offer legitimate arguments for my positions.....
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Lol. I'm not buying it. I know your mind is built with much more fortitude than you've let on and it'll take a lot more than your mommy kissing Santa Claus with the gall to also be wearing your dad's boots. Pretending to be your dad might've fooled your mom but I know it didn't fool you. And there will come the day when it is revealed to all the world that you are in actuality, Cameron Claus, Jr.
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Yes... the treats do make it more special for them.... and it's up to the adults to make it Biblically special for them. Our job is to teach them, but first you have to have their attention.
and I agree, this is simply a discussion.... I have a lot of respect for you as a believer..... we do disagree on several things, but that doesn't mean we aren't brothers....
and I agree, this is simply a discussion.... I have a lot of respect for you as a believer..... we do disagree on several things, but that doesn't mean we aren't brothers....
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