In your opinion do you believe world is about 6000 years old

[Fundaamental]

there you go, that is fluid motion because the Laws of Physics are godly and of the same substance as God.
smartest thing you posted so far.

the Laws won't stop as God fluidly maneuvers through them/Angels/etc.

no but he can stop the motion of something,

If your refering to time zones,

I think you are.

 

[Fundaamental]

And change the motion of something to

 

[Fundaamental]

Just another idea befor I hit of going on long distance truck drive

there you go, that is fluid motion because the Laws of Physics are godly and of the same substance as God.
smartest thing you posted so far.

the Laws won't stop as God fluidly maneuvers through them/Angels/etc.

The lord made the sun stop until a battle was won.

Which could well mean that day lasted a lot longer than it should have.

So theres one example of the laws of physics changing when the lord was probably present

Or another indicating the law of physics on earth control time it's self such as moving objects like the sun.

In the 6 days of creation there's no mention of when the sun was set in motion controled by the law of physics

But I did suggest it would make sense if it was set in motion when he rested

 

[Magenta]

Just another idea befor I hit of going on long distance truck drive

The lord made the sun stop until a battle was won.

Which could well mean that day lasted a lot longer than it should have.

So theres one example of the laws of physics changing when the lord was probably present

Or another indicating the law of physics on earth control time it's self such as moving objects like the sun.

In the 6 days of creation there's no mention of when the sun was set in motion controled by the law of physics

But I did suggest it would make sense if it was set in motion when he rested

The sun was created on the 4th day. Why would it not start moving until God rested?

 

[Fundaamental]

The sun was created on the 4th day. Why would it not start moving until God rested?

to keep a light shining in a dark place whilst he created everything on it of course

 

[Magenta]

to keep a light shining in a dark place whilst he created everything on it of course

There was light days before God created the sun. "Let there be light." Genesis 1:3

 

[LenMcM]

You quoted commencement of Solomons temple from Wikipedia at 967 BC. Taking my Exodus date of 2553 and add 480 years is 967BC or 3033 from creation. I have them 315 years in Egypt. Also between the Septuagint which say 430 in Cannan and Egypt and the Masorectic text which says 430 years in Egypt.

I dont think the 4 generations who entered Egypt were living long enough to be in Egypt for 430 years. Since two generations entered I went scrubbing the first generation and saying the second generation were all newborns for maximum error. The fourth generation I substracted 40 years for being in the wilderness.

I have Jacob standing before Pharoah in year 2238 and adding 315 years gives me an Exodus date of 2553.

One more item to consider is Galations 3:15-18 in which a covenant can be a man's will.

15 To give a human example, brethren: no one annuls even a man’s will, or adds to it, once it has been ratified. 16 Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many; but, referring to one, “And to your offspring,” which is Christ. 17 This is what I mean: the law, which came four hundred and thirty years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. 18 For if the inheritance is by the law, it is no longer by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.

I am not condemnng your work but sharing our differences.

I have 315 years in Egypt and 115 years in Cannan

Thank you. Well we differ by roughly 100 years over a 2550 year period for the Exodus date. I hope there are others out there that have worked on the dates from Adam to Exodus as I would appreciate other views. We are exhorted in Scripture to study the Word and not just read it like a novel as many people do. I am glad you are one which studies and hope others out there will add to this. I will look further at what you have written as time permits me.

 

[Fundaamental]

There was light days before God created the sun. "Let there be light." Genesis 1:3

this is an idea of yours as to why you asked the question.

My idea was also an idea and a whitty one

There may be more reasons for the days lasting a lot longer on earth in the first 6 days.

One of them being the lord rested on the seventh day indicating it was a mammoth task to create all that was on earth and all that was in the heavens surrounding earth.

I could think of several more ideas
why the days may have been a lot longer in the first 6 days

But however since where not on friendly terms I don't think you'll appreciate my imagination

 

[Fundaamental]

There's a saying in building work
Which is two lights is better one

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

The lord made the sun stop until a battle was won.

here's another interesting fact. much like the Book(s) of Enoch quoted throughout both the Old and New Testaments, so is the Book of Jasher. Ironically, the Book of Jasher, is not considered Inspired, but this quote of yours comes from the Book of Jasher. Since we know king David and Joshua quote the Book of Jasher, we know this Book existed just before the first Temple Age.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

There's a saying in building work
Which is two lights is better one

ok, a man thought up that idea because he did not have enough light to do the job correctly.
but why would you apply a man made idea to God, thinking He needed 2 lights?

 

[Fundaamental]

ok, a man thought up that idea because he did not have enough light to do the job correctly.
but why would you apply a man made idea to God, thinking He needed 2 lights?

here's another interesting fact. much like the Book(s) of Enoch quoted throughout both the Old and New Testaments, so is the Book of Jasher. Ironically, the Book of Jasher, is not considered Inspired, but this quote of yours comes from the Book of Jasher. Since we know king David and Joshua quote the Book of Jasher, we know this Book existed just before the first Temple Age.

as far I'm aware the sun stopping is in Joshua but it brings the law of physics notion into question.

That's what I wanted you to see
But it seems your dismissing it because it's quoted in the book of jasher to lol.

You did the same thing with Enoch

And a similar thing with 2 Peter 3:10

For both those to I showed you how your thought process was only going down 1 road.

And provided numerous accounts of scripture

So this is 3 times now.

At one stage i favored your idea of the foundations being no more and just like earth until I saw error after reading the Hebrew translation, which shows the foundations where only melted to cleanse the earth.

Your still yet to show favour for this as it confirms the foundations of this earth as something unique and separate and it could be eternal or even something created in heaven.

What about two lights being better for warmth and fast growing of plants for Adam and Eve to feed on and also a reason for the days lasting a lot longer

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

as far I'm aware the sun stopping is in Joshua but it brings the law of physics notion into question.

That's what I wanted you to see
But it seems your dismissing it because it's quoted in the book of jasher to lol.

You did the same thing with Enoch

And a similar thing with 2 Peter 3:10

For both those to I showed you how your thought process was only going down 1 road.

And provided numerous accounts of scripture

So this is 3 times now.

At one stage i favored your idea of the foundations being no more and just like earth until I saw error after reading the Hebrew translation, which shows the foundations where only melted to cleanse the earth.

Your still yet to show favour for this as it confirms the foundations of this earth as something unique and separate and it could be eternal or even something created in heaven.

What about two lights being better for warmth and fast growing of plants for Adam and Eve to feed on and also a reason for the days lasting a lot longer

lol no, not dismissing it all. didn't dismiss the last one because of Enoch. i am one to think if we read quotes from it in our own Bible, there's probably more important stuff to learn by reading that Book [Jasher-Enoch]. i personally accept a lot of Enoch and Jasher. if they were bad then why is Joshua and king David quoting them? God would have told either Joshua or David this Book is wrong. but we find it in the Hebrew, so we know they are legit Books.

 

[Fundaamental]

lol no, not dismissing it all. didn't dismiss the last one because of Enoch. i am one to think if we read quotes from it in our own Bible, there's probably more important stuff to learn by reading that Book [Jasher-Enoch]. i personally accept a lot of Enoch and Jasher. if they were bad then why is Joshua and king David quoting them? God would have told either Joshua or David this Book is wrong. but we find it in the Hebrew, so we know they are legit Books.

I'm beginning to think so too.

Another reason for the days being longer in the first 6 days could have been for the animals to repopulate and for the plants to repopulate, so that there would be a lot more oxygen and gasses for the earth and also for sea beds to accumulate matta and organic material and the water to accumulate oxygen. And for Adam and Eve to come into a world with everything they need.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

I'm beginning to think so too.

Another reason for the days being longer in the first 6 days could have been for the animals to repopulate and for the plants to repopulate, so that there would be a lot more oxygen and gasses for the earth and also for sea beds to accumulate matta and organic material and the water to accumulate oxygen. And for Adam and Eve to come into a world with everything they need.

i see it a bit differently. when God spoke animals into Existence, some were pregnant, some were young, some adult, they were at all Stages so they could just be a Species and survive how God intended it. look at Grass. some came as Seed, some as herb, some as taller grass. God placed complete GENERATIONS of each thing to ensure it would succeed.

Adam was made as an Adult. Ready to procreate and bring more life. Adam had fruit to eat, so, some Trees were Mature and fruit bearing. all stages of life.

 

[Fundaamental]

i see it a bit differently. when God spoke animals into Existence, some were pregnant, some were young, some adult, they were at all Stages so they could just be a Species and survive how God intended it. look at Grass. some came as Seed, some as herb, some as taller grass. God placed complete GENERATIONS of each thing to ensure it would succeed.

Adam was made as an Adult. Ready to procreate and bring more life. Adam had fruit to eat, so, some Trees were Mature and fruit bearing. all stages of life.

ok well I think we will have to end in a stale mate on this but thanks anyway for growing the belief I have about this matter

 

[lawrence101]

The word states Adam was indeed created on the 6th day. All of mankind exists having come initially from the loins of Adam. Scripture reveals Eve was created out of Adam as well. Thus when Adam was created by God, Eve existed in Him. And through procreation Eve became the mother of all living.

God's command for Adam and Eve to rule over the earth and multiply had to start somewhere, and it did AFTER they were expelled from the garden. (Gen. 4:1)

The best approach is to believe God's word whether it makes sense to our natural mind. And let that anchor assist in pursuit of understanding. Consider that the geography of the earth changed dramatically after the flood. Thus, it doesn't matter whether a sea CURRENTLY exists in Turkey. God's word is TRUE. Questioning that fact is what leads to deception.

This raises many more questions , some we've heard before :

1. Garden was planted eastward in Eden , eastward from what ?
2. Why didn't they have children while they were in the garden ?
3. Did they have to be sinners first before they could have children ?
4. Was Adam lonely or bored before Eve was created and if so why ?
5. How long were they in the garden ?
6. How big was the garden ?
7. Why was a man needed to till the ground ?
8. What did they do , other than eat fruit and play with animals ?
9. Were there animals in the garden ( dinosaurs ? ) ?
10. Was there a high wall , fence or possibly mountains around the garden ?
11. What was outside the garden , arid dessert , temporate forest , tropical rain forest , jungle , grassy plains , all of the above + ?
... need more ?

 

[lawrence101]

well I thought it was a good suggestion.

God created the earth on the first day. But there must have been building blocks already in place.

It's like me creating a boat tomorrow.

I could create one in a day but the true age will not be known because I won't really know how old the wood was.

Or I could build a house out of stone that's been on the earth for thousands of years.

I could say I've built a new house but the true age of the house would be how old the rocks where.

Personaly speaking I would of thought the earth was created the same way.
With rocks that could be billions of years old.

I Think it's common for Christians who are not builders to automaticy think the lord created the earth out of thin air. forgetting the building blocks.

but when you speak of the earth being cleansed of sin are we talking about the rocks too
or are we refering to parts of the earth that formed us ?.
.

I don't beleive God created anything out of " thin air " , He spoke just about everything into existence by His great power and intellect . Man was created differently , God formed man out of the dust of the ground , gave him a spirit and man became a living soul . Its like we are God's offspring ( Sons and daughters ).

 

[Fundaamental]

I don't beleive God created anything out of " thin air " , He spoke just about everything into existence by His great power and intellect . Man was created differently , God formed man out of the dust of the ground , gave him a spirit and man became a living soul . Its like we are God's offspring ( Sons and daughters ).

When you look at the meaning Of God spoke everything into existence,

A person could believe when the lord said let there be light and there was, they could also assume a physical substance could be created out of thin air in the blink of an eye.

You could speak something into existence your self right now.

Like there will be an living earth in the next 10 years

But the foundations will be prepared beforehand.


Both are spoken into existence

But you may not include your foundation plans or mention them

Most builders don't.

Its always a top secret that one

Don't forget God loves secrets between himself and somebodies private affairs in a private walk.

 

[Blade]

In my studies I have found the world is about 6000 years old. Anyone else studied time from Adam?????

I tend to believe that. Start looking into. I think allot of people lean more to what man believes. You know going 7+ miles deep "that's it we know what's in the center". And then what in the center of the sun how every planet in our system is. I don't think we should trust man's "dating" system though. That being said my dad oh LOVED to go over to the neighbors house that just happen to me SDA and show them a 6million (according to the dating) pig skull of sold rock. Yeah I have no clue how long it would take for a skull to become rock. It was very cool though.

All I know is the time limit is about up