Disliking the bible.

dave44 · Jun 14, 2023

Hello, I have an issue of not liking my bible as it seems as far as I can tell, that God has led me over about ten years, kept me for about 5+ years in a KJV bible because of corruption issues in new versions, at least for me. I have tried to go back and buy a "new version" but am stopped by a massive resistance due to my "knowing" they are corrupted. But I do not like the KJV old english, not because it is incorrect, but because of the lack of "deeper" translation that is missing in my "opinion", as well as some "false friend" words, and hidden meanings that are not known without a biblical history degree and more etc, which goes for other bibles also, unless they include this etc.

I ask for prayer that I would like and see use for my KJV bibles, as I have lost heart in seeing any use for it other than myself. If I don't like it how can I recommend it to anyone. I backslid a while ago and have returned to "church" but still feel the world is or the "church" everywhere for the most part is "hypocritical", but nearly every time I try to evangelise, I get "knock-back" not from evil, but seemingly God? I cannot buy tracts, other bibles, get useful leaflets for others or myself, mostly everything seems to be "junk like poorly designed, poorly translated, poorly explained" little use materials.

So, if someone could pray for me that I am less irritated, less emotionally volatile at God for these situations of "nothing happening", and that I would actually like to read my bibles, if it is in God's will and not merely because I "feel" I should do this. Much thanks, I simply feel not of use or productive as a christian. I keep failing and there seems to be no or little guidance or help that I have prayed for, so I thought I would ask here. Thanks.

crmvet · Jun 15, 2023

Proverbs 3:5-6

proutled · Jun 15, 2023

dave44 said:

Hello, I have an issue of not liking my bible as it seems as far as I can tell, that God has led me over about ten years, kept me for about 5+ years in a KJV bible because of corruption issues in new versions, at least for me. I have tried to go back and buy a "new version" but am stopped by a massive resistance due to my "knowing" they are corrupted. But I do not like the KJV old english, not because it is incorrect, but because of the lack of "deeper" translation that is missing in my "opinion", as well as some "false friend" words, and hidden meanings that are not known without a biblical history degree and more etc, which goes for other bibles also, unless they include this etc.

I ask for prayer that I would like and see use for my KJV bibles, as I have lost heart in seeing any use for it other than myself. If I don't like it how can I recommend it to anyone. I backslid a while ago and have returned to "church" but still feel the world is or the "church" everywhere for the most part is "hypocritical", but nearly every time I try to evangelise, I get "knock-back" not from evil, but seemingly God? I cannot buy tracts, other bibles, get useful leaflets for others or myself, mostly everything seems to be "junk like poorly designed, poorly translated, poorly explained" little use materials.

So, if someone could pray for me that I am less irritated, less emotionally volatile at God for these situations of "nothing happening", and that I would actually like to read my bibles, if it is in God's will and not merely because I "feel" I should do this. Much thanks, I simply feel not of use or productive as a christian. I keep failing and there seems to be no or little guidance or help that I have prayed for, so I thought I would ask here. Thanks.

Hello David 44 Good morning, take some time out, with God, go for a nice long walk, just alone, listen for him , some times when I get like that, I have to shut every thing out, and focus on him in prayer, listen for his still voice, simple, my sheep know my voice, then just ask him , for the kind of bible you want, he'll tell you, he loves you, he loves spending time with you, I hope this helps you, take care God bless,

proutled · Jun 15, 2023

what also helps me. I will ask for wisdom. and Love and courage,

HealthAndHappiness · Jun 16, 2023

dave44 said:

Hello, I have an issue of not liking my bible as it seems as far as I can tell, that God has led me over about ten years, kept me for about 5+ years in a KJV bible because of corruption issues in new versions, at least for me. I have tried to go back and buy a "new version" but am stopped by a massive resistance due to my "knowing" they are corrupted. But I do not like the KJV old english, not because it is incorrect, but because of the lack of "deeper" translation that is missing in my "opinion", as well as some "false friend" words, and hidden meanings that are not known without a biblical history degree and more etc, which goes for other bibles also, unless they include this etc.

I ask for prayer that I would like and see use for my KJV bibles, as I have lost heart in seeing any use for it other than myself. If I don't like it how can I recommend it to anyone. I backslid a while ago and have returned to "church" but still feel the world is or the "church" everywhere for the most part is "hypocritical", but nearly every time I try to evangelise, I get "knock-back" not from evil, but seemingly God? I cannot buy tracts, other bibles, get useful leaflets for others or myself, mostly everything seems to be "junk like poorly designed, poorly translated, poorly explained" little use materials.

So, if someone could pray for me that I am less irritated, less emotionally volatile at God for these situations of "nothing happening", and that I would actually like to read my bibles, if it is in God's will and not merely because I "feel" I should do this. Much thanks, I simply feel not of use or productive as a christian. I keep failing and there seems to be no or little guidance or help that I have prayed for, so I thought I would ask here. Thanks.

Here's some verses that you can probably understand the meaning of without a degree.
I think it will be a blessing.

Good news

proutled · Jun 16, 2023

dave44 said:

HELLO David I have been praying about what your going though , and he wants you to go to him, stop trying to do things on your own. he's saying to you, you must seek me deeper in prayer, and I will tell you. what you need to do, ....... ok David44 this was for you, I hope everything works out, for you, its the holy spirit that will gives us revelations, remember its about having a relationship with Jesus not just knowing, but knowing him, David. he loves you, get to know him, trust him, he made you, he knows you better then you know your self, this is what he is saying to you,............. Jesus I lift up my brother to you lord, hes a good man, help him , to have wisdom and under standing of you and your ways, your ways of doing things, in Jesus name. amen.

Randwulf · Jun 16, 2023

Hello Dave
I don't know that I have a solution for you, but I just wanted to let you know that you aren't alone in some of these struggles. I often find the KJV Bible hard to read and understand, yet it's the version I prefer. I often wonder about the true meaning of the words written in a somewhat archaic form of English, which may or may not have been translated exactly to convey the meaning of the original texts. I've even gotten into arguments with friends and family over different interpretations. I often feel I need a degree in theology to interpret it. Sometimes I try to research the text and other times I pray for guidance and understanding. I hope you find some peace about this issue that troubles you. R.

proutled · Jun 16, 2023

ok hello every one, the kjv in 1604 king James rewrote the bible in Shakespearean tongue because he loved Shakespeare, Jesus never really spoke like that, he mostly spoke hebrew I like reading NKJ bible, I have no problems reading the word,

JTB · Jun 17, 2023

I don't read from any one Bible; I like to have at least 4 around me when I study. It's not that other translations are corrupted, the issue is God's word is too big to be contained in human language.

proutled · Jun 17, 2023

JTB said:

HELLO good morning, I guss whats important is your relationship with Jesus,

JTB · Jun 17, 2023

proutled said:

True, but your relationship with Jesus is influenced by the Bible(s) you read

FollowingtheWay · Jun 17, 2023

Sending my prayers. If I may add something important that helped me. Do you really think Jesus spoke in 1600s Shakespearean KJV only English? Nope😃. I believe he spoke Hebrew, Does Greek and English translate well at all? In many areas no it didn’t. The interpreters did make some errors even in the King James. Modern interpretations help to improve the poor greek to English translation areas giving us a closer thought for thought translation where the Greek and English didn’t translate well in word for word . The Greek had 4 words for different types of Love. What gets communicated to us in the English bibles is simply one word love which can get confusing . Another problem area is the term English term (you). -you as an individual versus (You all)

Was there a Bible prior to the KJV? Yep it was the 1599 Geneva and King James didn’t like it one bit and mandated his own interpretation the KJV be the exclusive one because the Geneva with the study notes challenged his kingdom narrative … just a thought to ponder on the beginning of the KJV and where King James’ heart may have been in making it.

Some thoughts may be to play instrumental music low in the background as you read. You may do well to take a break from paper reading and go to an audible bible you can listen to as you exercise, run , jog, work etc. engage God with a time of enjoyment in His creation for a season for we know the whole earth is filled with His glory to make Him known . then try to come back refreshed and ready to read again. Some of the best Bible scholars take 3or 4 translations side by side as they study and compare, then some go a step further and actually learn Greek and read the manuscripts. Again I’m praying for you to find Bible reading well with your soul once again.

proutled · Jun 17, 2023

JTB said:

HELLO I was a good sinner I drank, beer, I smoked pot, I had many girl friend's, I trip on Asid, I did cocaine, in my 20' and then he change my life, when I got saved, he for gave me of all my sins. I felt the love of God in my HEART. HIS for Giveness , then I started to read the bible, he speaks though hes word, have faith in God,

ThyKingdomComeSoon · Jun 27, 2023

dave44 said:

Hello dave . There is an interesting web site called biblehub, You can see in at the same time the verses even in greek or hebrew, this has hepled me a lot in getting preoper meaning here are a few link as examples for genesis 1 verse 1;

https://biblehub.com/genesis/1-1.htm
https://biblehub.com/genesis/1-1.htm#lexicon
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/1-1.htm

commentaries are also interesting but are sometimes have strong bias aligned with the doctrine of the author.

Many members here such as Nehemiah6 or Angela53510 are very knowledgeable they could help you find a proper accurate version, for myself i use mostly a french version so i am not qualified like they are. you should could ask them, I think they would help.

Blessings and welcome

GRACE_ambassador · Jun 27, 2023

dave44 said:

Precious friend, yes, I also believe God Has One Pure and Preserved Word for me
(as opposed to 100 + corrupt versions to choose from). After some prayerful and
Careful study, I now know all "the updated word meanings" of the few archaic
Old English words, and just continue Praise and Thank Him for His Truth - hope
this will be helpful to you:

Handling The Word Of Life!

and:

Precious friend, A Very Warm Welcome To Chat.

Please Be Very RICHLY Encouraged And Edified In
The LORD JESUS CHRIST, And His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided (+ I and II). ← PG Rated "Approved" *
↑ I will pray for you to be: "productive as a christian." ↑

Grace, Peace, And JOY!… + RICH Blessings ♫ 😇 ↑

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HealthAndHappiness · Jun 27, 2023

dave44 said:

Hello, I have an issue of not liking my bible as it seems as far as I can tell, that God has led me over about ten years, kept me for about 5+ years in a KJV bible because of corruption issues in new versions, at least for me. I have tried to go back and buy a "new version" but am stopped by a massive resistance due to my "knowing" they are corrupted. But I do not like the KJV old english, not because it is incorrect, but because of the lack of "deeper" translation that is missing in my "opinion", as well as some "false friend" words, and hidden meanings that are not known without a biblical history degree and more etc, which goes for other bibles also, unless they include this etc.

I ask for prayer that I would like and see use for my KJV bibles, as I have lost heart in seeing any use for it other than myself. If I don't like it how can I recommend it to anyone. I backslid a while ago and have returned to "church" but still feel the world is or the "church" everywhere for the most part is "hypocritical", but nearly every time I try to evangelise, I get "knock-back" not from evil, but seemingly God? I cannot buy tracts, other bibles, get useful leaflets for others or myself, mostly everything seems to be "junk like poorly designed, poorly translated, poorly explained" little use materials.

So, if someone could pray for me that I am less irritated, less emotionally volatile at God for these situations of "nothing happening", and that I would actually like to read my bibles, if it is in God's will and not merely because I "feel" I should do this. Much thanks, I simply feel not of use or productive as a christian. I keep failing and there seems to be no or little guidance or help that I have prayed for, so I thought I would ask here. Thanks.

This podcast covers that topic. It's the last one I listened to and just happened to see your title at the top of this category again. The whole podcast is worthwhile, but I would look at 46:00 minute mark on if you just want the short answer. Beware of James White. He's one of the "higher critics" that hates the KJV.

brighthouse98 · Jun 27, 2023

Brother Dave I grew up a Lutheran, which isn't saying much as I learned from the King James as well I always thought that, that version was speaking to everyone but me! After really coming to Jesus at the age of 22 I told my Pastor about this version, he said go ahead since you are simple to get the New Amercian Standard Version it is the closest to the Greek anyway. After a few days I prayed to the Lord about this version, I left my bible on the front porch to get some tea and lighting struck my bible!!! LOL, I said this is the one for me!! It has been such a blessing to me bro!! Give it a shot!

JohnDB · Jun 28, 2023

dave44 said:

Well,
The KJV that likely you are talking about is the Oxford/Cambridge translation that was translated for the Church of England...of which King Henry the 8th was the creator of....not King James. And these Bibles were translated in such a way as to not offend the King's new denomination as separated from the Catholic Church.

And it has minor additions and deletions as well. The printing press hadn't been invented yet. So it has some issues where it has inconsistencies and between Erasmus and Wycliffe...they did the best that they could but they just didn't have a lot of information to work with.

The most accurate Bible is one written in Hebrew and read in Hebrew. Because the English language is the worst receptor language of that donor language. Hebrew has parts of speech that English (including Olde English) doesn't have at all.
Also Hebrew is a metaphoric language and unless you read the Old Testament scriptures in Hebrew and Aramaic you won't understand the metaphors. I mean after all....isn't EVERY SINGLE WORD PRECIOUS EXACTLY AS GOD SAID THEM?

The New Testament is in Koine Greek and Early Latin....so I guess you better learn these languages as well.

Then you need to study more about the anthropology of the Ancient Near East. Because Stephen was stoned to death, in part, for having memorized the Septuagint translation of the Bible....and when he used it in the Sanhidrin....well they considered it a great offense. Nevermind the rest of what he said...it was the translation he used that set him down the path of getting stoned. I'm sure that you don't want to follow his path.

PurpleTXmom · Jun 28, 2023

I would suggest having many different versions available, and if you think you hit a part that was translated incorrectly, check the other versions. Even at my church, they will read the same passage from multiple different versions so we can develop the most accurate interpretation. Sometimes they will even pull out a thesaurus and dictionary so we can try to get a better understanding of the meaning behind the words. You could even just use the UVersion Bible app on your phone and you can see different versions there without having to buy any of them. I have also very much enjoyed the study bibles which will have a deeper dive into the meaning of certain passages. Again, I would suggest many different versions of each type. I use the NIV version most of the time, but I have the ESV study version and a NKJV and the app with many more options.

dave44 · Jul 1, 2023

JohnDB said:

I understand your point but have little options to study greek and hebrew and feel like killing myself than taking ten years to do that in order to be only half competent at reading and understanding to old languages.

And in regards to the King James, it may have issues, but the modern bibles all stem from one, a nazi war criminal, two westcott and horts new testament who were the creators of an supernatural group and who spoke to the dead, a known forger Tischendorff and more. Not even mentioning the only two opposing texts of the sinaiticus against the vaticainus that do not line up to each other compared to thousands of texts for the "KJV lineage" bibles and texts.

If God would bless me to have the skill / options / and other for hebrew and greek, and it was of benefit and not a waste of time staying indoors reading going ever worse in sight from short range activities etc, I assume God would give me the blessings. But I do not have many options except online websites and guessing.

Also it seems God has basically banned "memory palaces" and their use and training of in my circumstance, even leading me to a museum of "his dark materials" that hinted at "lots of knowledge is dark" etc. It seemed very directed, therefore I have little time saving options for memorising also.

So it seems I will have to wait to be blessed with guidance, or suffer with a "poor, but best of the most trusted lineage translations" in english, that are not of the "shady peoples" creations etc, potentially. No one has created a new KJV that is not "twisted" with alterations in as said "twisted ways". So they are no use either.

Thanks for reply though.

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