In your opinion do you believe world is about 6000 years old

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Fundaamental

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We know in Genesis, when Adam sinned, God cursed the ground/earth.
Peter tells us the Earth will be purified of all Sins and curses by Fire before New Jerusalem arrives.

How do you know you are not dating the Effects of Sin, not an Earth, had Adam not sinned, would be as it was the day it was Spoken into Existence?
well I thought it was a good suggestion.

God created the earth on the first day. But there must have been building blocks already in place.

It's like me creating a boat tomorrow.

I could create one in a day but the true age will not be known because I won't really know how old the wood was.

Or I could build a house out of stone that's been on the earth for thousands of years.

I could say I've built a new house but the true age of the house would be how old the rocks where.

Personaly speaking I would of thought the earth was created the same way.
With rocks that could be billions of years old.

I Think it's common for Christians who are not builders to automaticy think the lord created the earth out of thin air. forgetting the building blocks.

but when you speak of the earth being cleansed of sin are we talking about the rocks too
or are we refering to parts of the earth that formed us ?.
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Fundaamental

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I'll tell you a secret to building material lasting thousands of years.

So say I buy a load of wood when I build the boat the next thing I would do is coat the wood in oil to preserve the wood.

but the oil will only sink into the wood 1 mm. A tiny little bit.

So the wood will only soak up a tiny bit of oil because all tho the wood has been dried out it still has some moisture in it. And the boat may last 10 years befor you see problems

If I dry the wood out first in a kiln for 3 days, totally getting rid of all moisture then apply the oil the wood oil will soak right through the wood and actually come out the other side of the wood, it will soak right through even with really thick wood. The boat will be as good as new a thousand years later ?.

Now think of the same thing for the earth God may well have prepared the rocks first for billions of years befor he created the earth. So that it would last as long as it has 🙂
 
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well I thought it was a good suggestion.

God created the earth on the first day. But there must have been building blocks already in place.

It's like me creating a boat tomorrow.

I could create one in a day but the true age will not be known because I won't really know how old the wood was.

Or I could build a house out of stone that's been on the earth for thousands of years.

I could say I've built a new house but the true age of the house would be how old the rocks where.

Personaly speaking I would of thought the earth was created the same way.
With rocks that could be billions of years old.

I Think it's common for Christians who are not builders to automaticy think the lord created the earth out of thin air. forgetting the building blocks.

but when you speak of the earth being cleansed of sin are we talking about the rocks too
or are we refering to parts of the earth that formed us ?.
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The Bible says God is in within throughout the Universe. God, is the Source for all things living, including the Expanded Universe He created from word Go. And yes, the Laws of Physics and Measurements still apply the same. So, Speed of light and distance is exactly that.
 
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The Bible says God is in within throughout the Universe. God, is the Source for all things living, including the Expanded Universe He created from word Go. And yes, the Laws of Physics and Measurements still apply the same. So, Speed of light and distance is exactly that.
God, is the Building Blocks, His Essence and Being, His Ultimate WILL, in case you missed my drift :unsure:
 
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we need building blocks to create + equipment
God needs an Idea to be His Will and He Speaks the building blocks into Existence, literally from nothing.
 

Beckie

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God spoke the Creation .

I am amazed at how often people doubt their Creator !
 

Fundaamental

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God, is the Building Blocks, His Essence and Being, His Ultimate WILL, in case you missed my drift :unsure:
building blocks would need to be preserved first to last as long as they have on earth.

If you build a house out of rocks that have no moisture content the house would crumble.

Gold and silver would not have been produced on earth

Gold and silver is formed from a star over billions of years.

Then there's iron and uranium etc.

Will the gold and silver be cleansed of sin ?.
 
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building blocks would need to be preserved first to last as long as they have on earth.

If you build a house out of rocks that have no moisture content the house would crumble.

Gold and silver would not have been produced on earth

Gold and silver is formed from a star over billions of years.

Then there's iron and uranium etc.

Will the gold and silver be cleansed of sin ?.
Are you Saved, my Friend?
 

Fundaamental

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we need building blocks to create + equipment
God needs an Idea to be His Will and He Speaks the building blocks into Existence, literally from nothing.
Job 38.4
Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?
Tell Me, if you have understanding,


Do you know foundations are something that allready existed when he created the earth ?.

Do you know how old those foundations where

Can you even see the foundations and the earth being two separate things ?

And this is another question for you
 

Beckie

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Always wanting to cause doubt he was the same in the Garden .
 

Ted01

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Job 38.4
Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?
Tell Me, if you have understanding,


Do you know foundations are something that allready existed when he created the earth ?.
Seems like Scripture says that He laid the foundations... but then you suggest that the foundations existed before He created them?
 

Fundaamental

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Seems like Scripture says that He laid the foundations... but then you suggest that the foundations existed before He created them?
no thats not what I said or ment

He created the foundations befor the earth
 

Blik

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Scripture tells us of 6,000 years of our world that God wants us to know and understand, but God does not explain to us just what was here when God created the world as we know it.

Whatever we need to know is explained in scripture and we are given understanding through the spirit, but there are mysteries that are beyond our ability to fully understand. God's time, and just how God creates are mysteries.
 

Fundaamental

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Hmm, so you're saying that He created the foundations but then came back later and created the earth?
the scripture says where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth.

You have to see that the foundations are separate to the earth.

Scripture says the earth was formed on the first day.

Scripture does not say the foundations where created on the first day.
 

Ted01

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the scripture says where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth.

You have to see that the foundations are separate to the earth.

Scripture says the earth was formed on the first day.

Scripture does not say the foundations where created on the first day.
Okay...?
But it also says that God created the Heavens on the first day too, right?
So where was this foundation, if not in the Heavens?
 
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Job 38.4
Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?
Tell Me, if you have understanding,


Do you know foundations are something that allready existed when he created the earth ?.

Do you know how old those foundations where

Can you even see the foundations and the earth being two separate things ?

And this is another question for you
Foundations are merely part of the process. They would be made of the same substance as what the foundation is supporting. It's not as if foreign materials are added anywhere within this process. It's all structurally pure and thorough in complete same substance.