"The Chosen" and the "Pride" flag

[Snacker]

This is an important point. Christians have been very permissive, have confused dealing with caring for individuals with being very permissive with the greater movement. The flag is a symbol of the movement.

It is a more profound insult to Christianity, the rainbow is spoken of twice in scripture and neither time does has to do with pride in sin. This is God's gift to humanity and part of how God displayed His throne.
I think most people who are not defensive about this show get your point and understand its validity.

A rainbow, resembling an emerald, encircled the throne. Revelation 4:3b

I don’t get caught up in the sinful nature of homosexuality because my focus is on God’s grace through faith in Jesus Christ, yet it can’t be dismissed that Scripture calls homosexuality an abomination.

Some folks here defending the gay flag being displayed on a Christian set would more than likely defend someone displaying a pedophile pride flag or a satanic pride flag just to save face. Obnoxious adolescence on full display.

And now it’s time for a Red X from those who defend that which is an abomination to God. Silly miscreants.

 

[Snacker]

I know zip about the program the Chosen. But it seems similar to the issue with the Passion of the Christ. Mel Gibson clearly has issues with the Jews, I doubt he believes the Holocaust ever happened, which is what his father believed. I didn't realize his true beliefs until after I had seen the movie. And I would say the movie did a lot to touch people with the Gospel, even though it was couched in Catholic rhetoric. And so as Christians, should be have been so gung-ho to support the movie? This is the issue with some of these tv/movies. I recall a whole thread on The Shack, that got just as heated. Some loved it, some were dead against it. Some time later I watched it and looked up the author of the book and realized he was a universalist. It's billed as a Christian movie though. So as Christians we need to be very careful of what we support.

Gay people need the Gospel. But they need it without compromise. Tolerance and inclusion are not words in the Bible. It becomes a very difficult task then to bring the Gospel to gay people. There are special ministries to prisoners. There are special ministries to drug addicts. And I think there needs to be the same outreach to gays. It's a very fine line to walk, but we cannot ignore them either. I think it should be made a great matter of prayer of how to reach out without compromise. So many are in bondage and looking for a way out. But we need to be very careful and make sure we are keeping our children safe at the same time so they understand how serious a sin homosexuality is.

So much love in your words ❤️❤️❤️

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

So much love in your words ❤️❤️❤️

There but by the grace of God go I. The church needs a huge dose of discernment. Lay hand on no man quickly. We must not cross over unless we take the cross over. We help no one out of the quick sand if we go down with them. An old song we use to sing said "Throw out the lifeline, throw out the lifeline. Someone is sinking today". We better be sure we know that aren't doing more harm than good when we throw out that lifeline.

 

[HeIsHere]

I don’t get caught up in the sinful nature of homosexuality because my focus is on God’s grace through faith in Jesus Christ, yet it can’t be dismissed that Scripture calls homosexuality an abomination.

Some folks here defending the gay flag being displayed on a Christian set would more than likely defend someone displaying a pedophile pride flag or a satanic pride flag just to save face. Obnoxious adolescence on full display.

And now it’s time for a Red X from those who defend that which is an abomination to God. Silly miscreants.

I am a little at a loss for words by this post, that doesn't happen too often.
The children are robbed of their innocence because of this movement.
I worry where we are headed, the flag on the set, is just part and parcel of breaking down barriers.

Unfortunately sometimes discernment becomes a commodity which can be tossed out the window when it interferes with emotional attachments.

Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.

 

[HeIsHere]

 

[Magenta]

I don’t get caught up in the sinful nature of homosexuality because my focus is on God’s grace through faith in Jesus Christ, yet it can’t be dismissed that Scripture calls homosexuality an abomination.

Some folks here defending the gay flag being displayed on a Christian set would more than likely defend someone displaying a pedophile pride flag or a satanic pride flag just to save face. Obnoxious adolescence on full display.

And now it’s time for a Red X from those who defend that which is an abomination to God. Silly miscreants.

You go from people defending the truth of how this series is reaching people, to calling it people defending the gay flag on a Christian set, and then equate that to defending homosexuality itself, paedophilia, and Satanism? No wonder some are making you out to be a bad guy. The type of rhetoric on display in your post is uncalled for. And not just this one. Saying your focus is on God's grace through Jesus Christ when you speak in such a manner can hardly be believed, either.

 

[PennEd]

Let's see what they do with Judas folks.

So far they haven't painted him in a negative light. They have spent entire episodes expounding on individual apostles. Some that have very little written about them in Scripture.

I feel like they may be trying to sweep him under the rug. I'm also wondering how they'll deal with the Transfiguration.

But If they soften the Judas stuff, like not have Jesus refer to him as a devil (John 6:
70 Jesus answered them, “Did I not choose you, the twelve, and one of you is a devil?”), then the show will belie a major problem.

 

[Magenta]

Let's see what they do with Judas folks.

So far they haven't painted him in a negative light. They have spent entire episodes expounding
on individual apostles. Some that have very little written about them in Scripture.

I feel like they may be trying to sweep him under the rug. I'm also wondering how they'll deal with the Transfiguration.

But If they soften the Judas stuff, like not have Jesus refer to him as a devil (John 6:
70 Jesus answered them, “Did I not choose you, the twelve, and one of you is a devil?”), then the show will belie a major problem.

Chronologically, that would almost surely be in whatever the last season is to be (7? 8?) and they are
only filming season 4 now. So you may have a while waiting to see how it is treated. Of course I am
referring to the Judas issue, just prior to Christ's crucifixion. The fleshing out of individual characters
is part of what makes this show so memorable to some. I have seen quite a few productions and barely
ever been able to recognize any of the apostles besides Peter and perhaps John, and of course, Judas.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

Also, the two ACTORS' were reacting to some hostile posts and they have since reposted. Jordan Ross said he loves the fans. He works with the person and was mad over some bullying comments to fire the crew member . This show will soon reach close to a billion watching/viewing and some who like me didn't even notice the flag and have gotten closer to the Lord and/or accepted Jesus. The series is expected to be the most watched faith-based series ever. It's amazing to see the comments fly by so fast from people all over the world who love the episodes. I also think a behind the shot of a pride flag is not worthy of ranting against a show that shows the water turning into wine, leper & lame healed, the woman with the issue of blood, Jesus walking on water and so forth. It's not a church it's a production set producing an amazing series.

Sorry sister, I have to say I disagree with your POV here. This comment makes it quite clear who this actor supports, the gay community. Homophobia? We stand by the LGBTQ members? In an article the director said they had people of all beliefs and therefore there shouldn't be an issue. But here is the issue, homosexuality is not a "belief" like a religion. I'm sorry but every single company is trying to pull this trick right now and Christians seem to be unaware of it. And I believe this is what Snacker was trying to say.

Cracker Barrel, who well knows Christians are the only ones right now keeping them in business used the very same language as this director did. They said "we support our LGBTQ "family" and are proud of our workers..." As soon as someone throws the term "homophobic" out there, I know there's a problem. This is "pride" month, a time for people to show how proud they are not because of who they are, but who they are having sex with. The directors response should have been an apology, along with the actors. I don't that a person should be fired, but it should be clear that that will not be tolerated anywhere on the set. But the director didn't say that. He defended it and then compared it to a Christian wearing a hat or t-shirt and acting as if it was the same thing. It isn't!! The gay flag is 100% against the cross, in fact it is mocking the cross, and it should never be supported for any reason. To say that the series is reaching lost people, terrific, that doesn't make what happened right, nor the response. I believe that was what Snacker was saying. And it's very sad to me that he's gone when I know his heart was in the right place, even though it got heated. We better be careful which side we are on, sometimes it's not where we think it is. Have a blessed day.

 

[Magenta]

Sorry sister, I have to say I disagree with your POV here. This comment makes it quite clear who this actor supports, the gay community. Homophobia? We stand by the LGBTQ members? In an article the director said they had people of all beliefs and therefore there shouldn't be an issue. But here is the issue, homosexuality is not a "belief" like a religion. I'm sorry but every single company is trying to pull this trick right now and Christians seem to be unaware of it. And I believe this is what Snacker was trying to say.

Homosexuality is not a belief but there are people who do not believe it is a sin. That belief is wrapped up in religion. Also, that comment is two weeks old now and has probably been clarified, as many have been, and I have read some of the follow-ups. So much fur has flown over this issue and lots of misinformation spread around. I do not know what Jordan Ross' affiliation to religion is, but the director, Dallas Jenkins, said the cast and crew were like a huge family, and some Christian extremists took it to mean he was calling homosexuals and non-believers his brothers and sisters in Christ, and made it a reason to further fuel their outrage, as if Jenkins does not know the difference when he himself is an evangelical Christian. A lot of suspicion arises out of who is backing this project: Mormons (LDS). Jenkins has gotten to know some LDS members personally, and has had in depth conversations with them, and said of certain particular people, they believe in the same Jesus I do. Well, guess what? Extremists ran with that and made his statement a broad brush about the whole of LDS and let that further fuel their outrage. The whole enchilada is more involved than can be seen from a few posts.

 

[Magenta]

And I believe this is what Snacker was trying to say.

Very short sighted when I look at what they said at the top of this very page. Did you read that post?

It has come to typify the attitude of many against any who see the good of what this production has been accomplishing.

Some complain that the series is not Biblically accurate while they bend the facts and state blatant lies to defend their views.

 

[Mem]

I know zip about the program the Chosen

We better be careful which side we are on, sometimes it's not where we think it is. Have a blessed day.

In the production of The Ten Commandments, Nelson B. DeMille used a voice actor from the Mormon Tabernacle Choir enhanced by the vox Humana of the organ he borrowed from his good friend, David O. McKay, president of the LDS Church, as the voice of God. Likewise, God uses who is willing and what he has to work with, turning what others might meant for evil to His good purpose, in typical God fashion, for ages. Try to stop Him.

 

[ResidentAlien]

God can do what He wants; we're not God.

 

[PennEd]

Chronologically, that would almost surely be in whatever the last season is to be (7? 8?) and they are
only filming season 4 now. So you may have a while waiting to see how it is treated. Of course I am
referring to the Judas issue, just prior to Christ's crucifixion. The fleshing out of individual characters
is part of what makes this show so memorable to some. I have seen quite a few productions and barely
ever been able to recognize any of the apostles besides Peter and perhaps John, and of course, Judas.

While it's true we don't have a whole lot up until the crucifixion week, we do know Judas' character before, that was not good, as John references Judas dipping in the money bag for himself.
John 12:6 NIV He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.

We'll see if how they develop him in the next season.

I'm sad that all this extraneous stuff is happening. Some the fault of the producers themselves, because the first 2 seasons were a wonderful breath of fresh air from the usual poorly produced Biblical material. I know a number of people that donated to get this going.

I wish they would've just made the show, put it out, and not do all these nonessential interviews, that put the focus on them, instead of Christ.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

In the production of The Ten Commandments, Nelson B. DeMille used a voice actor from the Mormon Tabernacle Choir enhanced by the vox Humana of the organ he borrowed from his good friend, David O. McKay, president of the LDS Church, as the voice of God. Likewise, God uses who is willing and what he has to work with, turning what others might meant for evil to His good purpose, in typical God fashion, for ages. Try to stop Him.

So what you're saying is God is using an LGBTQ+ flag?? We're not taking about different denominations here, we are talking about perverted sex. And you think God is going to use that? Try and stop him??! I don't see your message here, but I think you might want to rethink it.

 

[ThereRoseaLamb]

God can do what He wants; we're not God.

God doesn't go outside of His Word. He could kill us all this moment, but He won't because He is bound by His Word. What He can do and what He will do are two different things.

 

[ResidentAlien]

God doesn't go outside of His Word. He could kill us all this moment, but He won't because He is bound by His Word. What He can do and what He will do are two different things.

The point is God can use anything and turn it for good. But we don't have to right to go out and do evil so good may come. Ends don't justify means.

 

[Mem]

So what you're saying is God is using an LGBTQ+ flag?? We're not taking about different denominations here, we are talking about perverted sex. And you think God is going to use that? Try and stop him??! I don't see your message here, but I think you might want to rethink it.

I might as well be speaking Japanese if you're going to misinterpret my message. God must've allowed it, because he didn't place you, or anyone with your similar mindset, on the set to rip it up before it happened to be recorded. And this discussion is one of the results of it.

 

[HeIsHere]

I might as well be speaking Japanese if you're going to misinterpret my message. God must've allowed it, because he didn't place you, or anyone with your similar mindset, on the set to rip it up before it happened to be recorded. And this discussion is one of the results of it.

People still need to held accountable for their actions.

 

[Mem]

People still need to held accountable for their actions.

Everyone is held accountable for their actions, and everyone needs to know that if they do not, yes. However, God instructs the harvesters to allow the tares to grow alongside the wheat until the harvest, when everything will be accounted for as the sorting of the faithful and the unbelieving commences.