Climate change -- Existential threat to humanity

[HealthAndHappiness]

This is such a "non issue."

Since God instituted "climates," the climate has been changing constantly.

In temperate zones this is especially true.
The devil is making it an issue in order to get more control over mankind, plunge it into slavery and enforce worship.

Romans 1

This is the trend towards rejection of God.
Eventually God rejects them as they decide to harden their hearts towards Him

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

H2O is Hydrogen an Oxygen. On the list it can exist in three states,vapor/gas, liquid or solid when they collect and form water it rains(liquid), if it freezes it is a solid. Both Hydrogen and Oxygen are on the list as H2 or O2.

yes it means free oxygen 20% and free hydrogen 0.00005%. H20 is not the same molecule at all. Correct to say H2O is composed of 2 hydrogen and one oxygen but iit s a different molecule altogether with very different chemical characteristics. H20 water vapour obviously is an important part of the atmosphere but it is omitted in books and tables. The reason they give sometimes is that it is variable. It is not a valid reason to omit this important molecule from charts and tables, they could write for instance in the table I mentioned H2O 1-9% - 5.0% in older books and tables they do but in recent publications they don't.

 

[ZNP]

yes it means free oxygen 20% and free hydrogen 0.00005%. H20 is not the same molecule at all. Correct to say H2O is composed of 2 hydrogen and one oxygen but iit s a different molecule altogether with very different chemical characteristics. H20 water vapour obviously is an important part of the atmosphere but it is omitted in books and tables. The reason they give sometimes is that it is variable. It is not a valid reason to omit this important molecule from charts and tables, they could write for instance in the table I mentioned H2O 1-9% - 5.0% in older books and tables they do but in recent publications they don't.

Water vapor actually has two competing impacts on climate.

On the one hand it is a very powerful greenhouse gas, absorbing radiated heat from the Earth's surface.

On the other hand clouds have a tremendous albedo effect on sunlight.

So the more water vapor it is very possible the more clouds you will have reflecting sunlight back into space.

About 29% of sunlight is reflected back into space by clouds and about 25% is absorbed as heat. So despite water vapor being a very powerful greenhouse gas its overall impact may be a wash.

Also, water is not simply vapor or liquid, it can also be snow which also reflects a very high percentage of sunlight back into space.

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

Water vapor actually has two competing impacts on climate.

On the one hand it is a very powerful greenhouse gas, absorbing radiated heat from the Earth's surface.

On the other hand clouds have a tremendous albedo effect on sunlight.

So the more water vapor it is very possible the more clouds you will have reflecting sunlight back into space.

About 29% of sunlight is reflected back into space by clouds and about 25% is absorbed as heat. So despite water vapor being a very powerful greenhouse gas its overall impact may be a wash.

Also, water is not simply vapor or liquid, it can also be snow which also reflects a very high percentage of sunlight back into space.

we obviously do not read the same books, I tend to disagree, not with your numbers but the conclusion. From what i know, water vapour is a main component of at atmospheric disturbances ( hurricanes, droughts, polar vortexes, etc..) this is what they are playing with now. In any case most of the scientist do not really agree with anything, the ecosystem is really complex and hard to figure out.

Blessings.

 

[iamsoandso]

yes it means free oxygen 20% and free hydrogen 0.00005%. H20 is not the same molecule at all. Correct to say H2O is composed of 2 hydrogen and one oxygen but iit s a different molecule altogether with very different chemical characteristics. H20 water vapour obviously is an important part of the atmosphere but it is omitted in books and tables. The reason they give sometimes is that it is variable. It is not a valid reason to omit this important molecule from charts and tables, they could write for instance in the table I mentioned H2O 1-9% - 5.0% in older books and tables they do but in recent publications they don't.

In the chart it seems their intention is H2 and O2 in their gas/vapor state IMO. H2O(water),H2O2(hydrogen peroxide) ect. I would think be found on a chart for liquids. In your example of con trails they would be solids(ice crystals) https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/policy_guidance/envir_policy/media/contrails.pdf

 

[ZNP]

In the chart it seems their intention is H2 and O2 in their gas/vapor state IMO. H2O(water),H2O2(hydrogen peroxide) ect. I would think be found on a chart for liquids. In your example of con trails they would be solids(ice crystals) https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/policy_guidance/envir_policy/media/contrails.pdf

One problem of course is how would we control water vapor? 70% of the world's surface is ocean, it would be hard if not impossible to have any influence on the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere.

The second problem is how do you sell to the world that "water vapor" is a pollution when the world depends on rain for crops and drinking water.

 

[Cameron143]

One problem of course is how would we control water vapor? 70% of the world's surface is ocean, it would be hard if not impossible to have any influence on the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere.

The second problem is how do you sell to the world that "water vapor" is a pollution when the world depends on rain for crops and drinking water.

They are halfway there. They've already convinced many that carbon dioxide is a pollutant.

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

One problem of course is how would we control water vapor? 70% of the world's surface is ocean, it would be hard if not impossible to have any influence on the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere.

The second problem is how do you sell to the world that "water vapor" is a pollution when the world depends on rain for crops and drinking water.

they do not sell this water vapor at all, they blame carbon in the form of CO2! they NEVER mention clouds and increased humidity, never.
chemtrails anyone?, you are familiar with cloud seeding, really an old technology, farmers used to pay pilots who did crop dusting a long time ago to seed the clouds for rain.

in the morning, it starts like this, I have seen this often in the last 12 years;

a few hours later it looks like this; bye bye blue sky!

during the pandemic lock downs we actually had normal weather and none of this grey cloud coverage overhead!

I was driving to Boston a few years back i saw a huge plane very low altitide land nearby like this, did theu forget to turn the switch off?

This is not normal.

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

They are halfway there. They've already convinced many that carbon dioxide is a pollutant.

exactly my point, people are starting to think carbon is the problem, the numbers do not lie, no math necessary co2 is only very slightly contributing to the problem.

Blessings

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

In the chart it seems their intention is H2 and O2 in their gas/vapor state IMO. H2O(water),H2O2(hydrogen peroxide) ect. I would think be found on a chart for liquids. In your example of con trails they would be solids(ice crystals) https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/policy_guidance/envir_policy/media/contrails.pdf

No, water can be a gas too and DOES belongs in this chart, As a biochemist I am certain of this. like I mentionned they used to put it in these charts in the past, you can verify all this.


Blessings.

 

[iamsoandso]

One problem of course is how would we control water vapor? 70% of the world's surface is ocean, it would be hard if not impossible to have any influence on the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere.

The second problem is how do you sell to the world that "water vapor" is a pollution when the world depends on rain for crops and drinking water.

I my self would not try to control water vapor but instead seeing that the time will come when those who destroy the earth will be destroyed by God I would avoid being among those set on not tending the earth. It just makes sense to tend it instead of intentionally polluting it and then there's the Scripture providing proof that people do in fact destroy it and will pay for doing so. https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/11-18.htm

 

[iamsoandso]

No, water can be a gas too and DOES belongs in this chart, As a biochemist I am certain of this. like I mentionned they used to put it in these charts in the past, you can verify all this.


Blessings.

As a biochemist you should know that the gas/vapor state of Hydrogen is written as H2 and Oxygen as O2...

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

As a biochemist you should know that the gas/vapor state of Hydrogen is written as H2 and Oxygen as O2...

what makes you think I do not know this?, this is elementary.

I my self would not try to control water vapor but instead seeing that the time will come when those who destroy the earth will be destroyed by God I would avoid being among those set on not tending the earth. It just makes sense to tend it instead of intentionally polluting it and then there's the Scripture providing proof that people do in fact destroy it and will pay for doing so. https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/11-18.htm

Do you think evil makes any sense at all? did not GOD set things in motion so we do not have to tend to the weather? the people who do this are destroying the weather.

 

[ZNP]

She is an example to us all

20-Year-Old Climate Cultist Greta Thunberg Finally Graduates From High School, Lauds Her 'Accomplishments'

https://redstate.com/mike_miller/20...high-school-lauds-her-accomplishments-n759129

She is not just another angry teenager, she is "the angry teenager" and she has left behind a lasting legacy, meme's of her will live on for years to come.

https://www.google.com/search?q=gre...pr=3&safe=active&ssui=on#imgrc=2ZxUp98xVpAFmM

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

She is an example to us all

20-Year-Old Climate Cultist Greta Thunberg Finally Graduates From High School, Lauds Her 'Accomplishments'

https://redstate.com/mike_miller/20...high-school-lauds-her-accomplishments-n759129

She is not just another angry teenager, she is "the angry teenager" and she has left behind a lasting legacy, meme's of her will live on for years to come.

https://www.google.com/search?q=gre...pr=3&safe=active&ssui=on#imgrc=2ZxUp98xVpAFmM

LOL, remember that lying face!

 

[iamsoandso]

what makes you think I do not know this?, this is elementary.

Do you think evil makes any sense at all? did not GOD set things in motion so we do not have to tend to the weather? the people who do this are destroying the weather.

Sure I do, even though both me and you are using the internet at the same time. Just because we are sitting here and we think that someone else is the culprit isn't a get out of jail free card because the power comes from somewhere. We charge our phones and we watch the TV and sit in the AC and drive our cars. If we plug in our phone chargers and start from there the really long extension cord leads back to a power plant somewhere that's huffing and puffing to keep up with the stuff we decided we wanted to use today. We can pretend if we like but there's a man somewhere running a factory or a machine that's involved in the process of making the gas for our car or the electricity we're burning to chat with each other on the internet. I suppose if the process is out of sight so to speak we can post pictures of some factory making gas or generating power and say their the culprit but if you follow the extension cord we would see how much sense evil makes...

 

[ThyKingdomComeSoon]

Sure I do, even though both me and you are using the internet at the same time. Just because we are sitting here and we think that someone else is the culprit isn't a get out of jail free card because the power comes from somewhere. We charge our phones and we watch the TV and sit in the AC and drive our cars. If we plug in our phone chargers and start from there the really long extension cord leads back to a power plant somewhere that's huffing and puffing to keep up with the stuff we decided we wanted to use today. We can pretend if we like but there's a man somewhere running a factory or a machine that's involved in the process of making the gas for our car or the electricity we're burning to chat with each other on the internet. I suppose if the process is out of sight so to speak we can post pictures of some factory making gas or generating power and say their the culprit but if you follow the extension cord we would see how much sense evil makes...

I agree and it is why I have cut significantly. I only buy what I Absolutely need, no cell phone either.

Cheers

 

[ZNP]

Sure I do, even though both me and you are using the internet at the same time. Just because we are sitting here and we think that someone else is the culprit isn't a get out of jail free card because the power comes from somewhere. We charge our phones and we watch the TV and sit in the AC and drive our cars. If we plug in our phone chargers and start from there the really long extension cord leads back to a power plant somewhere that's huffing and puffing to keep up with the stuff we decided we wanted to use today. We can pretend if we like but there's a man somewhere running a factory or a machine that's involved in the process of making the gas for our car or the electricity we're burning to chat with each other on the internet. I suppose if the process is out of sight so to speak we can post pictures of some factory making gas or generating power and say their the culprit but if you follow the extension cord we would see how much sense evil makes...

I view the world as a placenta for the birth of the manchild. The reason a baby is born is because the placenta is no longer able to support the baby and it begins to break down. Sometimes the babies will have poop in their mouths. The description in the book of Revelation is of a manchild being born and the placenta being tossed into the garbage and burned as medical waste.

 

[iamsoandso]

I view the world as a placenta for the birth of the manchild. The reason a baby is born is because the placenta is no longer able to support the baby and it begins to break down. Sometimes the babies will have poop in their mouths. The description in the book of Revelation is of a manchild being born and the placenta being tossed into the garbage and burned as medical waste.

I live in Texas. I grew up on the coast but now I'm about a hundred miles from it. The way I view it is water runs down hill so all the tires, diapers, bottles and stuff (garbage and stuff) along with all the chemicals people spray all flow into the creeks and bayous and flow into the rivers every time it rains, Texas like other states in the US are downhill from the other states and so all the garbage from the states above us runs down hill to us. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/11/us/dead-fish-texas-climate-change.html

 

[ZNP]

I live in Texas. I grew up on the coast but now I'm about a hundred miles from it. The way I view it is water runs down hill so all the tires, diapers, bottles and stuff (garbage and stuff) along with all the chemicals people spray all flow into the creeks and bayous and flow into the rivers every time it rains, Texas like other states in the US are downhill from the other states and so all the garbage from the states above us runs down hill to us. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/11/us/dead-fish-texas-climate-change.html

Ah yes, the trickle down theory.