Go ye into all the world and announce the MILLENNIUM to every creature
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Locoponydirtman
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What message to the world did Christ command before His ascension?
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen... And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned... And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem... But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
Do you know exactly what the Gospel is? Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: Do you see anything there about the Kingship of Christ?
Unless a person is saved by obeying the Gospel, all talk about a Millennial Kingdom will be meaningless. So you are trying to put the cart before the horse.
We seem to see a bit differently what the core of the gospel is, however scripture is clear, jesus said himself that he came preach the good news of the kingdom of heaven or kingdom of GOD, please do a search of the words kingdom of GOD or Kingdom of heaven in the new testamant, you will find a long list of instances where jesus preaches the kingdom of GOD in the first four books of the NT, this is well recorded in scripture
It is also true that, using the words of excellent brother Nehemiah6 in post no 14;
"We preach CHRIST and Him crucified, buried, resurrected, and ascended to Heaven. The focus must always be on Christ Himself, since He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, as well as the Resurrection and the Life.
Yes we should be preaching this but also we should be preaching the gospel of Jesus the son of GOD who came to preach the good news of the kingdom of heaven this is what he came to do as it is written in scripture;
Mat 10:5 Jesus sent out these twelve, commanding them, saying, Do not go into the way of the nations, and do not enter into any city of the Samaritans.
Mat 10:6 But rather go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 10:7 And as you go, proclaim, saying, The kingdom of Heaven is at hand.
Mat 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. You have received freely, freely give.
Mar 1:14 And after John was delivered up, Jesus came into Galilee, proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom of God,
Mar 1:15 and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God draws near. Repent, and believe the gospel.
Luk 4:43 And He said to them, I must proclaim the gospel, the kingdom of God, to other cities, because I was sent on this mission,
Jesus was always speaking , teaching on the kingdom of heaven. A quick search with the keywords kingdom of heaven will give you many results, below is one of many, the beautiful sermon on the mount;
Mat 5:2 And He opened His mouth and taught them, saying,
Mat 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit! For theirs is the kingdom of Heaven.
Mat 5:4 Blessed are they that mourn! For they shall be comforted.
Mat 5:5 Blessed are the meek! For they shall inherit the earth.
Mat 5:6 Blessed are they who hunger and thirst after righteousness! For they shall be filled.
Mat 5:7 Blessed are the merciful! For they shall obtain mercy.
Mat 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart! For they shall see God.
Mat 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers! For they shall be called the sons of God
Mat 5:10 Blessed are they who have been persecuted for righteousness sake! For theirs is the kingdom of Heaven.
Mat 5:11 Blessed are you when men shall revile you and persecute you, and shall say all kinds of evil against you falsely, for My sake.
Mat 5:12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for your reward in Heaven is great. For so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
The Kingdom of Heaven is in my comprehension the core of the gospel of Jesus ,our messiah.
Blessings to all.
It is also true that, using the words of excellent brother Nehemiah6 in post no 14;
"We preach CHRIST and Him crucified, buried, resurrected, and ascended to Heaven. The focus must always be on Christ Himself, since He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, as well as the Resurrection and the Life.
Yes we should be preaching this but also we should be preaching the gospel of Jesus the son of GOD who came to preach the good news of the kingdom of heaven this is what he came to do as it is written in scripture;
Mat 10:5 Jesus sent out these twelve, commanding them, saying, Do not go into the way of the nations, and do not enter into any city of the Samaritans.
Mat 10:6 But rather go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 10:7 And as you go, proclaim, saying, The kingdom of Heaven is at hand.
Mat 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out demons. You have received freely, freely give.
Mar 1:14 And after John was delivered up, Jesus came into Galilee, proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom of God,
Mar 1:15 and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God draws near. Repent, and believe the gospel.
Luk 4:43 And He said to them, I must proclaim the gospel, the kingdom of God, to other cities, because I was sent on this mission,
Jesus was always speaking , teaching on the kingdom of heaven. A quick search with the keywords kingdom of heaven will give you many results, below is one of many, the beautiful sermon on the mount;
Mat 5:2 And He opened His mouth and taught them, saying,
Mat 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit! For theirs is the kingdom of Heaven.
Mat 5:4 Blessed are they that mourn! For they shall be comforted.
Mat 5:5 Blessed are the meek! For they shall inherit the earth.
Mat 5:6 Blessed are they who hunger and thirst after righteousness! For they shall be filled.
Mat 5:7 Blessed are the merciful! For they shall obtain mercy.
Mat 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart! For they shall see God.
Mat 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers! For they shall be called the sons of God
Mat 5:10 Blessed are they who have been persecuted for righteousness sake! For theirs is the kingdom of Heaven.
Mat 5:11 Blessed are you when men shall revile you and persecute you, and shall say all kinds of evil against you falsely, for My sake.
Mat 5:12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for your reward in Heaven is great. For so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.
The Kingdom of Heaven is in my comprehension the core of the gospel of Jesus ,our messiah.
Blessings to all.
The very first thing He said "All power is given unto Me in Heaven and on Earth. Go ye therefore....."
I'm the KING ... the church has been preaching a heavenly kingdom only, but He is King of Earth as well. His Lordship is manifest in Heaven but it is not yet manifest on Earth "My kingdom is is not now of this world ...." but He is Lord of all the Earth.
I hate to quote Marx but he said of the church that they preach a "pie in the sky" message. And so say all unbelievers.
When Jesus was baptised He went about preaching "the Kingdom of God is at hand repent and believe in the good news"
You preaching repentance but leave out the first part which is the reason why we should repent.
Sin is the only thing that separates mankind from God, keeps him out of His Kingdom, so repentance and forgiveness are prerequisite but then BELIEVE.
And Paul preached the Kingdom ... you gloss over it, you put it down to a nice piece of speechifying, poetry. This is what Paul preached.
Eph. 2.
remember that you [Gentiles] were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world But now in Christ Jesus you who were once afar off have been brought near in the blood of Christ.
So then you [Gentiles] are no longer strangers and sojourners but you are fellow citizens with the [Jewish] saints and members of the household of God built upon the foundation apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the cornerstone in whom the whole structure is joined together and grows into a holy temple in the Lord in whom you also are built into it for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.
What does it all mean? covenants of promise? what was and IS the great Jewish hope? what is the commonwealth [Christians talk about the commonpoverty] It's the kingdom. Paul describes the temple of God exactly as John describes it in Revelations 20 ... founded by the apostles and prophets. The temple from which Jesus will reign with His saints.
What is Paul talking about? the whole creation groaning in travail together with us to be released from it's bondage to decay at the manifestation of the sons of God....
When Jesus speaks about the tribulation to come he speaks about birth pangs, it's not the end of the world but a new beginning a new age, a new dispensation, the millennium age.
You say it's all about the King and I agree, the King and His kingdom.
you could be wrong, you have been before.
Folks mix up Dispensationalism which is perfectly biblical with Mid Acts Dispensationalism which is hyper and seeks to divide the Jews from the Gentiles and make 2 gospels.
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Locoponydirtman
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Yeah i guess you have never read anything i have posted, in those threads about the temple and the jews and the rapture.
Or where I call OT saints, Christian.
Yes, dear brother!
Yes, eventually, but not initially. Order of events is important. It begins with salvation, of course, but we then are caught up (Raptured) to a great event in HEAVEN.
John 14:
1Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
He, Jesus is preparing the bridechamber which is associated with our wedding which takes place in Heaven. We will spend out first wonderful seven years in Heaven and then return to Earth with Jesus for the 1000 year Millenium.
Where in Scripture does it say for us to "go ye into all the world and preach the Millennium?" That's a scarry misspeak of the Verse from Matthew IMO
Verses 18,19, nor 20 say anything about the Millennium
FYI
I don't buy it anyhoo..... When that Eastern Sky splits and Jesus descends with the Saints who have gone before, THAT WILL BE IT!
and where does it say THAT? "that will be it"
Jesus said the good news of the kingdom will be preached in every nation for a witness then the end will come. We are not sent to establish the kingdom but to bear witness to it ... crucially to it' s King.
... the end will come
That is the end of this present age, it's not the end of the world.
You say we are sent to bear witness to the kingdom then deny that there will be a kingdom. Why would we be sent to bear witness to a kingdom if there is no kingdom to come?
Oh you mean Heaven, well Jesus has taught us to pray Our Father Thy kingdom come Thy will be done ON EARTH as it is in heaven......
Will we reign with Christ in the ages to come? will we reign over heaven or over the earth?
as you know I see it a little differently, amen x 100 to the marriage feast [you'll need your best bib and tucker for that Oy ... your robe of righteousness will do nicely]Yes, dear brother!
Yes, eventually, but not initially. Order of events is important. It begins with salvation, of course, but we then are caught up (Raptured) to a great event in HEAVEN.
John 14:
1Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
2In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
He, Jesus is preparing the bridechamber which is associated with our wedding which takes place in Heaven. We will spend out first wonderful seven years in Heaven and then return to Earth with Jesus for the 1000 year Millenium.
But that 7 years is a mopping up time on earth, Ezekiel speaks about it in 38 when the Jews will be burying the slain of those who came up with antichrist to fight against Israel ... all who received the mark of the beast.
IT'S THE JEWS who will reign with Him on earth, that's why they are being [and will yet be gathered] home to Israel. In preparation for when they are as a nation converted. They are not raptured.
The rapture of the church was to take us away from God's wrath ... right? but the Jews then will not be in the nations anymore, we are in the nations and need to be taken out, but the Jews have their homeland to flee to for refuge. They are gathered to Israel, we are gathered to heaven which is our home.
But Heaven and earth will be UNITED during the 1, 000 years heaven will be on earth, starting at Jerusalem so if we are in heaven or whether we are on earth who cares?
Paul in ephesians 3
God's plan for the fulness of time [a euphemism for the millennium] is to unite all things in Christ whether they be things in heaven or things on earth.
Peace bro.
Odd, when Jesus was comforting his disciples about his pending crucifixion, this is what he told them... he said nothing about a kingdom on earth, where he would reign as king for a thousand years.... he told them he was going back to the Father to prepare places for all his followers, so that when he comes back, he can take them all with him to be in the presence of God....
The disciples wanted and expected an earthly kingdom.... don't you think he would have told them about it, if that was truly what was going to occur?
14 “Do not let your heart be troubled; [a]believe in God, believe also in Me. 2 In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. 3 If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also. 4 And you know the way where I am going.” 5 Thomas *said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, how do we know the way?” 6 Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
The disciples wanted and expected an earthly kingdom.... don't you think he would have told them about it, if that was truly what was going to occur?
14 “Do not let your heart be troubled; [a]believe in God, believe also in Me. 2 In My Father’s house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you. 3 If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also. 4 And you know the way where I am going.” 5 Thomas *said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, how do we know the way?” 6 Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
I don't think 1COR15 should be abridged in this way. What he refers to as "first (most important) of all that which [he] recieved"; to me, it's pretty clear he is talking about the entire chapter, because when he goes on to talk about the resurrection he insists that the faith hinges on it, and makes no sense without it. And it does go into kingdom business when he says
Then the end will come, when He hands over the kingdom to God the Father after He has destroyed all dominion, authority, and power. 25For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. 26The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27For “God has put everything under His feet.”b Now when it says that everything has been put under Him, this clearly does not include the One who put everything under Him. 28And when all things have been subjected to Him, then the Son Himself will be made subject to Him who put all things under Him, so that God may be all in all.
This discussion about the kingdom (which is essentially what we are saved TO from our sins) isn't an interjection into the discussion about the critical importance of the resurrection; it's part of it.
Even (♫
↑) though, they must have understood the Many ( earthly ) OT prophecies about it, and even after His Resurrection, they still ask this 'really dumb'(?) question about:When, exactly, did Israel ever possess a heavenly kingdom that needed
restoration? or was it always earthly, where the 11 (later 12) understood
this?:
Mat_19:28 "And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye
which have followed Me, in the regeneration when the Son of man
shall sit in the throne of His Glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve
thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."
+Luk_22:30 "That ye may eat and drink at my table in My kingdom,
and sit on thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel."
+ Revelation 20:4-8 is heavenly or earthly???Of course, this and Much More pertains to ( earthly ) prophecy/covenants/law
specifically for 'twelve tribes of Israel' and, when:
Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)
From Paul's "Revelation Of The ( heavenly ) Mystery" for the 'Body Of Christ,'
where we will 'occupy, rule, and reign' in the heavens - more details are here,
if you wish:
God's Great GRACE Departure!
Be blessed...
And how did Christ respond? He basically dismissed that idea and told His apostles to focus on the Gospel. And how did Peter present the Gospel? He said "Repent and be converted that your sins may be blotted out".
To speak about the Millennium to unsaved people is to present a fantasy -- in their opinion. This is a spiritual truth to be understood through the indwelling Holy Spirit. It is not for the "natural man". Unless a man is born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God. That is what Christ said. Also before the Millennium is established the wrath of God will be poured out upon the earth. So the warning to all must be "Flee from the wrath to come". The Millennium is only for those who have been saved by grace.
“Jesus on his coming on the end times will reign for 1000 years ( heaven )”
“For David speaketh concerning him,
I foresaw the Lord always before my face, For he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:
Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
he seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.”
Acts 2:25, 30-33, 36 KJV
he’s already reigning in heaven isn’t he ?
think of revelation in this light considering a thousand years being literal
“But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
2 Peter 3:8-9
she isn’t being slow in keeping his promise to return but he’s being patient giving people time to come around to repentance before thier judgement
In revelation most understand this concept of imagery and symbolic prophetic communication like for instance “ the lamb “ who’s pictured in the book is Jesus and we all know because he was slain and shed his blood ect we know the lamb is a symbol and image of Jesus to communicate a deeper message about him and from him
“And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, ( jacobs blessing on the lion of Judahs tribe the lawgiver and ruler to come )the Root of David, ( Nathan’s promise to David )hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. ( it’s a concept being communicated about Jesus and how he sent the holy spirit from heaven at pentocost after his death and resurrection )
And they sung a new song, ( testsment ) saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; and hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. ( what e gospel teaches us )
And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.”( a closer look at what Daniel saw in Daniel 7 hearing what the number of angels he saw were saying around the son of man receiving his eternal kingdom and throne )
Revelation 5:4-6, 9-12
My point in blathering on like this is that the numbers in revelation all the sevens , the 144000 the 1000 years the times time and a half , the number of months , the three and a half years ect
those are all just like the images we see they are not literal they are communicating message to us based on what Gods said beforehand in scripture
People usually see the images as symbolic and then make the numbers literal but I don’t understand why God doesn’t see time as we do he could wait ten thousand years until he returns or tomorrow he’s being patient waiting for as many as who will , to hear the gospel and repent and believe and be saved
revelation is probably the most interpreted book whether one does it good or not people interpret it to no end but I see it as a way to interpret the message of Jesus Christ in the gospel and ot prophets
all this of course is just another persons view lol and I’m not claiming this is anything but my own position and thoughts could be wrong about every detail haha two cents worth though