IF YOU TOOK THE SHOT YOU HAVE GENETICALLY CHANGED YOU BODY FOREVER
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Well, if you want an echo chamber then create your own forum …. Or even better. Publish a book.
Our job is not to convince people. The Lord requires us to warn them, what they do with that warning is between them and God.
The same is true of the gospel, I used to think that you judged your gospel preaching by how many believed, but that is not true. Every person you speak to counts, if they reject the gospel it was still important that someone spoke it to them so that when they appear before the judgement seat they have no excuse. For others, it is a seed planted, it doesn't sprout immediately but that doesn't mean it won't sprout.
We are charged to be witnesses, not judges, not jury, but simply the witness who tells the truth. What others do with it will determine their judgment from God.
Not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers
I have not been banned from any platforms.
I was suspended from Facebook for a month, no warning, no explanation, no rules were broken. As a result I concluded that I was no longer welcome there and shook the dust off and left.
Something similar to that took place on another platform where the atheists were upset at my posts but again, no rules were broken, no explanation, simply suspended without warning and so again, I shook off the dust and moved on.
Luke 9:5 And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.
Only men pleasers never experience this.
Ephesians 6:6 not with eyeservice, as men-pleasers, but as bondservants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart
How is it that we have Paul's testimony in Acts and yet Christians teach others to be men pleasers?
Acts 20:18 And when they had come to him, he said to them: “You know, from the first day that I came to Asia, in what manner I always lived among you, 19 serving the Lord with all humility, with many tears and trials which happened to me by the plotting of the Jews; 20 how I kept back nothing that was helpful, but proclaimed it to you, and taught you publicly and from house to house, 21 testifying to Jews, and also to Greeks, repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ. 22 And see, now I go bound in the spirit to Jerusalem, not knowing the things that will happen to me there, 23 except that the Holy Spirit testifies in every city, saying that chains and tribulations await me. 24 But none of these things move me; nor do I count my life dear to myself, so that I may finish my race with joy, and the ministry which I received from the Lord Jesus, to testify to the gospel of the grace of God.
Being friends of the world is to be an enemy of God. When we appear before the Lord's judgement seat we are not going to get points for how many friends we had, but rather for how faithful we were to speak the truth even if people didn't want to hear it.
Jesus speaks much more about hell than heaven, I hardly ever even mention hell.
You remind me of Lieutenant Kermit Tyler and others serving at Pearl Harbor.
Your reply was just as quick!
Basically you wanted an echo chamber. It is actually better to have your 'opinions" challenged, science it not about "proof" so that is your first mistake.
Ah yes, The Hell.
The fear-based Protestant approach to God. Take a few verses from the Bible and build a church around it.
Do you believe in God out of Fear or out of Love and Hope?
Because you shouldn’t fear God, He is the supreme the most high so by that definition he can annihilate this existence just like He created it.
So we all are in His hands And His power is already understood.
We need to believe because we love Him and have Hope in Jesus Christ.
Not link some earthly events in your lifetime to have a crowd under your control based on fear.
Death can come to us at any time, so you placing fear in a vaccine or anything else maybe tells me that you’re in a tough spot where I sense a bit of indoctrinaction.
Oh great now the thread is going to end and we're not going to know if DT has genetically changed his body forever or not. How will we know if we should vote for him again or not? What if he grows two orange heads and both of them tells us we should take the vaccine?
Jesus references to going to hell
Matt 5:22, 29, 30
Matt 10:28, 11:23, 16:18, 18:19, 23:15, 23:33
There are six more references in Mark and Luke which are repetitive.
Jesus references (in Matthew) to going to heaven
Matt 5:3, 10, 12, 19, 20
References that are a wash
Matt 10:32-33 This is one example,
Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
Matt 18:3 is another example
And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Matt 19:23 is another example
Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Telling us what the kingdom of heaven is like is not the same as saying you are going to heaven, saying that the Father is in heaven isn't the same as saying you are going to heaven. Just because the word "heaven" is used does not mean the reference is saying you are going to heaven. For example:
Matt 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
There are 9 direct references in Matthew concerning going to hell and 5 direct references to going to heaven. There are many more references to heaven however, they are not talking people going to heaven, or they are a wash, talking about those who would and those who wouldn't, or they are fully negative indicating the sins that would keep you from heaven.
I have heard this as well. It kinda depends on how you define “hell”, and how you define “Heaven”.
Another factor is that the statement, “Jesus talked more about hell than about heaven,” probably refers to the total number of verses devoted to the subject, and not just the number of references to the words “hell” or “heaven.”
It may be worth noting that in Deuteronomy 28 (and following), the blessing section (28:1-14) is a great deal shorter than the cursing section (28:15-68)
Let us consider this teaching because it is at the heart of the apostasy.
1. How do you teach about salvation and a savior if you don't teach people what they are saved from?
2. How do you teach about sin and the wages of sin being death if you don't teach what that means?
So the apostate church avoids talking about sin and they avoid talking about hell. As a result they have love without any discernment. Next you will have transgender priests giving story hour and prancing around the pulpit like demonic creatures. If there is no sin and no hell then the Lord's word that He is the only way to the father will be annulled and they will embrace "all faiths" and you will have confusion and a rebuilt tower of Babylon.
Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.
All believers need a reverential fear and awe of the Lord Jesus. Every one of us needs to know that one day we will appear before the judgement seat to be judged concerning the things we have done in this life. As a result we need to be very diligent to repent of sins and to take the Lord's blood, confessing our sins and washing them away. We need to understand that God is a righteous God, He takes sin very seriously, so seriously that Jesus had to die on the cross to pay the price for sin.
Phil 2:`12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
There is no contradiction between a loving God and Father and working out our own salvation with fear and trembling.
Jude 1:12 These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;
People who have no fear of God or His judgement are spots in your love feasts.
1Timothy 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
How is this "a few verses"? Paul taught Timothy to openly rebuke those who sin so that others may fear. The apostate church teaches you not to do that.
1Peter 1:17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:
The apostate church tells us to ignore Peter's admonishment.
Jude 23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
One wonders if these teachers know any part of the Bible?
Paul -- And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
When did the fear of God become contrary to the gospel?
2 Corinthians 7:1 Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.
Yes, it is not based on a simple search of the word "heaven" and "hell" in a concordance.
Thank you but I will go with this instead....
Those are some very bold and very specific quantitative assessments of Jesus’ message. But are they true?
By my count[1] (with the help of some BibleWorks magic), there are 1,944 verses in the four gospels that contain Jesus’ words.
Surprisingly, only about 60 of those verses–or an unwhopping three percent of them—might be construed as either directly or indirectly referring to hell.
On the other hand, there are more than three times as many verses in the gospels in which Jesus references heaven, eternal life, or his coming kingdom: 192 verses in all, or almost 10%.
So Jesus did not, in fact, speak more about hell than heaven. But many people who should know better still seem hell-bent on insisting that He did.
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This is a great question ZNP and we should stop right here and you shouldn’t have wasted your time quoting more verses from the Bible to support your interpretation.
Unlike a Protestant, I don’t teach anyone about salvation. I tell them about Jesus Christ, his message and how to live a life that would be approved by Jesus and his teaching. Salvation is a mystery.
This is the key difference between the Orthodox Church and a Protestant.
Because your whole interpretation of the Bible revolves around two topics:
1. Salvation
2. And revelations.
Now this comes from the schisms during history and vast cultural differences.
In an American legalistic society, you treat salvation as a legal document and you treat the Bible as a puzzle of words which fits your ever changing interpretations.
For example a typical Protestant American would say (pharaprasing) :
Yesterday at 3:48PM Eastern Standard Time I did the following things (all wrong by the way) based on someone’s interpretation and I am saved. My lawyer notarized this document.
Now I’m gonna go to the pub and get drunk and cheat on my wife.
So, I don’t think we can understand each other at this point which is why you will continue to have this doomsday and fear based approach in God while I will continue to be totally in Peace, Joy and Gratefulness in God while I’m here.
Again, gobbledegook, you build a scarecrow that you can slice up and do not in any way respond to what I shared.
Unlike you I believe every word of God is good for teaching, for reproof, for encouragement, for consolation, for teaching about righteousness.
He is here claims that 3% of the Lord's speaking is a direct reference to hell and I suspect that is the same percent for my speaking. If the Lord speaks 3% of His words on hell I don't see how anyone who is a witness of the Lord Jesus could teach others that it should be 0%?
If Jude wants to speak concerning the common salvation how do they say they have no interest in speaking about salvation?
3 Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
Where is the contending for the faith? It is easy to surrender, that is all they are telling you to do, "don't contend for the faith, surrender".
Hebrews 2:3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation;
They have to neglect so great a salvation because if they don't they must talk about sin, and hell and what we are escaping from.
Luke 1:77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people
This was the ministry of John the Baptist, he contended for the faith, he gave knowledge of salvation to the people. The apostate church doesn't want any part of that battle.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
You can't compromise with all the idolatrous names if you are also preaching that there is no salvation in any other name. The apostate church has compromised with Satan, the ecumenical movement embraces all faiths and thus must ignore the fact that there is no salvation in all those other names.
Acts 13:26 Men and brethren, children of the stock of Abraham, and whosoever among you feareth God, to you is the word of this salvation sent.
Yes this is a typical response when someone is a bit indoctrinated, they are unable to process the message And be able to look at things with an open mind and historical context. For example Jesus didn’t leave a written New Testament, He left a church first. New Testament came after.
Also, another way to detect indoctrination is when you see the same old tired verse vs verse that Protestants do.
One guy says one thing, another guy says another thing and they both claim to be right. This is why 20,000 denominations exist.
In fact I think there should be 300 million denominations or whatever the population in USA is because every man is his own church here while they reject the church.
There are some interesting paradoxes that you’re unable to see but in my church we don’t say that you’re going to Hell like you or others condemn everyone else. We say “we don’t know”. This is up to God not us mortal men.
Do your references to "hell" include references to God's judgement?
God's judgement on man
- Romans 2:5 - "But because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God's righteous judgment will be revealed."
- Romans 14:10-12 - "Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written, 'As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.' So then each of us will give an account of himself to God."
- 2 Corinthians 5:10 - "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive what is due for what he has done in the body, whether good or evil."
- Hebrews 9:27 - "And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment."
- 2 Peter 3:7 - "But by the same word the heavens and earth that now exist are stored up for fire, being kept until the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly."
- Jude 1:14-15 - "It was also about these that Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying, 'Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of his holy ones, to execute judgment on all and to convict all the ungodly of all their deeds of ungodliness that they have committed in such an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things that ungodly sinners have spoken against him.'"
- Revelation 20:11-15 - "Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire."
Because if they do then you must also include all the references to sin and the various reasons why a person might go to hell as well as all references to salvation and forgiveness and how to be saved from hell. It is all interrelated. Then what about Satan's temptations, what about false prophets and false teachers and the antichrists who deny Jesus is come in the flesh?
If they don't then it is simply someone trying to obfuscate.
Either way, if Jesus speaks 3% on a topic I don't see how any representative of Jesus could justify speaking 0% on that topic.