IF YOU TOOK THE SHOT YOU HAVE GENETICALLY CHANGED YOU BODY FOREVER

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ThyKingdomComeSoon

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To @PennEd and @ThyKingdomComeSoon :

My son found the research fascinating. Humans were not thought to have any enzymes that were reverse transcriptase. Evidently, the mRNA activated a response in vitro where some liver cells reverted the mRNA back into DNA.
This doesn't mean the same result actually happens within the human body but definitely signals that research should be done to see if what was found in the laboratory happens in the body or not. This wouldn't be hard to do. The research could be done on cadavers. The technology already exists to test.

My son also added that even if this is so, most mutations of DNA aren't harmful or impactful. Rarely are they lethal or helpful. But further research is certainly necessary.

As far as this being done purposefully, it couldn't have been. The enzymes that causes the reverse transcriptase was only discovered last year. It must have already been present but only activated by the mRNA. But it does necessitate more and better protocols for future testing.

I put into a few paragraphs all he said. Alot of the technical stuff I didn't understand. He doesn't think it will end up being detrimental as far as altering DNA but is well aware of other adverse medical concerns. Also, he has an inquisitive mind and will no doubt investigate further. I'll update you as he fills me in.

As for the incorporated DNA in the human genome it depends where it will be incorporated. In the normal process with a normal vaccine the immune cells do keep a COPY of the DNA or RNA if the infecting virus in a sort of ""database,"" it is used as a memory and will help the immune system produce antibodies rapidly in case of a reinfection, however the mRNA of the covid shot does not work this way, it is not known at this time what will come of this it is an experimental vaccine. it is too complex for me to explain this here in simple terms but many scientists do not like this vaccine types for good reasons. Just be careful and well informed before taking these vaccines,. I know healthy people who died within a year after vaccination, another lost a leg due to blood clots a few weeks after the vaccine and many more who's are rapidly deteriorating.

i posted no 42 of this thread a pfizer report that was forced out of them by courts of law it is a bit complex to read but it is good info. ( the link for the pfizer report is towards the end of the web page)


Blessings.
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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If it really was what you are claiming, no vaccinated person would feel the presence of the Lord. I don't know any vaccinated person who says that. I include myself and I can speak for my wife also. Jesus said that it is not what goes into the body that defiles us. He spoke of food, but I believe it includes medications and such. The Holy Spirit dwells in my mortal body and gives life to me continually. My God has promised never to leave me or forsake me. I see no statement, "unless you are vaccinated".

You were right first time. There is so much misinformation and so much gullibility that I am now convinced we are in the last days. Flat earthers, people who fear cell phone emissions, and whatever the latest fearmongering "expert" has to say. Jesus said, "Don't worry about what you eat". Some Christians are obsessed with diet.

There are enough real problems without making some up. Don't fall for the tinfoil hat brigade's hysteria.
do you remember these adds;

 

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As for the incorporated DNA in the human genome it depends where it will be incorporated. In the normal process with a normal vaccine the immune cells do keep a COPY of the DNA or RNA if the infecting virus in a sort of ""database,"" it is used as a memory and will help the immune system produce antibodies rapidly in case of a reinfection, however the mRNA of the covid shot does not work this way, it is not known at this time what will come of this it is an experimental vaccine. it is too complex for me to explain this here in simple terms but many scientists do not like this vaccine types for good reasons. Just be careful and well informed before taking these vaccines,. I know healthy people who died within a year after vaccination, another lost a leg due to blood clots a few weeks after the vaccine and many more who's are rapidly deteriorating.

i posted no 42 of this thread a pfizer report that was forced out of them by courts of law it is a bit complex to read but it is good info. ( the link for the pfizer report is towards the end of the web page)


Blessings.
I'm glad that people like yourself are warning people concerning the dangers of the shot. The evidence is becoming known and studies are continuing. But we need to make sure we aren't guilty like the other side of rushing information out to the public before it is properly researched and replicated and know what it actually means. Otherwise, we just supply the other side with ammunition to diminish our case.
 
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do you remember these adds;

Well I don't remember these adds but I have seen others that basically marvel in the wonderful world of cigarette smoking.

Good example of how easily doctors can fool people who put their trust in them as though they were gods of some kind.

Yeah, as the add says, Doctors are human too.
 
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In other news:

Since COVID-19 shots were fast-tracked to the market at an unprecedented rate — and recommended widely to children who were at very low risk from COVID-19 — parents are asking more questions about vaccinations.

A survey prepared for Health Canada by Ekos Research Associates1 found that not only have vaccination rates declined since the COVID-19 pandemic, but widespread concerns exist about the shots’ safety.2

As it stands, data from the Public Health Agency of Canada shows only 40% of children under 12 are considered “fully vaccinated” against COVID-19.3 Among children ages 6 months to 4 years, only 5.1% have received two COVID-19 shots, and only 10.1% have received one.4

Fewer Parents Accepting All Shots for Their Children
The vaccination slowdown dates back to at least the fall of 2021, when a study found vaccination rates declined since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic. At that time, 23% of children had missed or delayed a routine shot.5 The Health Canada study followed up in October 2022, surveying 1,035 parents with children 6 and under and 193 people who were pregnant or planning to become pregnant in the next 12 months.

About 16% to 29% of respondents fell into the “vaccine-hesitant” category, expressing doubts about vaccine safety and efficacy. “Further compounding the problem is that a significant proportion of those who accept all vaccines may also harbor concerns about vaccination,” the report found.6


Only 39% of parents said they accepted all recommended shots and had no doubts or concerns about vaccinating their child — down from 48% in 2017. Further, 19% said they have refused or delayed getting shots for their child, while 3% said they refuse all vaccines.7

Parents Cite Lack of Trust, Safety Concerns Over Shots

The survey revealed parents’ top concerns about vaccinations for their children, with 42% saying they were worried about side effects and 29% raising concerns about potential allergic reactions. Another 29% felt vaccines haven’t been tested enough — a nearly two-fold increase from 15% in 2017.8

Parents are right to be concerned. Vaccinations often take years, if not decades, to develop, but COVID-19 shots were brought to market at an unprecedented pace, without adequate testing. Meanwhile, children are at an extremely low risk of serious illness from COVID-19, making the recommendations for COVID-19 shots, and boosters, among this population highly questionable — even ludicrous.

“Research shows that there is no benefit to children receiving a COVID shot, and in fact, the shots can cause potential harm, adverse effects and death. According to Pfizer’s own study trial data, the chance of death in children from the shot is 107 times higher than death from COVID,” Dr. Robert Malone, the inventor of the mRNA and DNA vaccine core platform technology,9 stated.10
 
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Data from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) also show that COVID-19 case rates among children who received two COVID-19 shots have been higher than rates in children who did not get the shots.11 A lack of trust — in both Big Pharma and the government — was also cited as a major reason why parents were thinking twice about vaccinating their children.

According to the report, 28% of respondents said they do not trust the pharmaceutical industry, causing them to have doubts about shots. Further, the survey revealed, “One in five (20%) are concerned about childhood vaccines because they generally do not trust the government.”12

Also cited as points of concern were “a general requirement for too many vaccines” (12%) and the pandemic, including COVID-19 shots (11%).13

Gates-Clinton Partnership to Increase Childhood Shots
With more parents asking questions about vaccine safety and reconsidering COVID-19 shots altogether, Bill Gates is teaming up with the Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI) to increase vaccines in children. The event is dubbed “The Big Catch-Up” — and described as “the largest childhood immunization effort ever.”14

The worldwide effort involves not only CHAI but also WHO, UNICEF, Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and will span 18 months. According to WHO:15

“While calling on people and governments in every country to play their part in helping to catch up by reaching the children who missed out, The Big Catch-up will have a particular focus on the 20 countries where three quarters of the children who missed vaccinations in 2021 live.”
For some background, it’s important to be aware that the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation remains a primary funder of WHO, as Gates contributes via multiple avenues, including the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, the vaccine alliance GAVI, the Strategic Advisory Group of Experts (SAGE), UNICEF and Rotary International.

Sourced from the Dr Mercola site. While I can't provide a link to that site (it is monetized because he had to go private after constant attempts by the gov to shut him down) You can actually click on the links where they appear

The above info can be easily proven by some searching on the net if anyone wishes to see it for themselves
 
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Here is a link to a CBC article I easily found just by a simple search, with regards to parents not wanting to have their children vaccinated or further vaccinated (the covid shot which is actually NOT a vaccine, but rather has made the world into test subjects for the companies that have developed this thing)

The younger their child, the less likely parents will want them to get COVID-19 vaccine, survey finds
Study reveals Canadian parents' intentions to immunize kids under 11 years old

The younger their children, the less likely it is that Canadian parents want them vaccinated against COVID-19, research led by the University of Alberta suggests.

In a study published this month in the journal Preventive Medicine, 41.9 per cent of Canadian parents surveyed said they planned to vaccinate children between the ages of six months and 23 months.

The older the child, the more likely parents were to say they did plan to get them vaccinated:

  • 45.4 per cent of parents intended to immunize children aged two to four.
  • 56 per cent of parents intended to immunize children aged 5 to 11.
The remaining respondents for each age category either didn't intend to immunize their children or were undecided.

The data was gathered during an online survey last October and November. The 1,129 parents who responded were selected from a panel of more than 400,000 Canadians from polling firm Leger.

The reported intentions of parents for kids aged five to 11 have been reflected in actual vaccinations: as of June 19, 56 per cent of five- to 11-year-olds had received at least one dose of COVID-19 vaccine.

Earlier this month, Moderna's Spikevax became the first COVID vaccine in Canada to be approved to be administered to children between six months and five years old. Health Canada said there were no safety concerns detected during a study of the vaccine.

Rest of article available by clicking on the link in the title to the article above
 
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OK...sorry...not trying to monopolize the thread, but here is more of the Mercola article, referring to the US response to the shots

US Adds COVID Jab to Childhood Vaccine Schedule
The CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) voted to add unlicensed COVID-19 shots to the U.S. childhood, adolescent and adult vaccine schedules, paving the way for U.S. schools to require them for attendance.

Pfizer and Moderna, the shots’ makers, will also be granted permanent legal indemnity, which otherwise would have disappeared once COVID-19 shots were no longer protected under emergency use authorization (EUA).19

The move is likely to shatter whatever remaining trust Americans had in the CDC — “as it should,” Malone said.20 “I am shocked by the malfeasance. I have no trust left at all in our public health. It is broken.”

Even though 60% of U.S. parents oppose adding COVID-19 shots to list of required shots for school,21 California and Washington, D.C., have already announced that the shots will be mandatory for students,22 and others are sure to follow. If that happens, many more children’s health may be at risk from the experimental shots, while Big Pharma will get out unscathed.

Ron Paul put it simply when he spoke about the CDC on the Liberty Report: “They’re not our friends. They’re not friends of liberty. They’re not friends of medicine. They’re certainly not friends of kids. But do you know who their best friends are? The pharmaceutical companies.”23

In a clip on Mikhaila Peterson’s podcast, shared by the Liberty Report, Robert Kennedy Jr. also laid out why the CDC is intent on making COVID-19 shots routine for children:24

“So, they’re never going to market a vaccine, allow people access to a vaccine, an approved vaccine, without getting liability protection. And now, the Emergency Use Authorization vaccines have liability protection under the PREP Act and the CARES Act. So as long as … you take an emergency use, you can’t sue them.
Once they get approved, now you can sue ’em, unless they can get it recommended for children. Because all vaccines that are recommended, officially recommended for children get it, liability protection. Even if an adult gets that vaccine. That’s why they’re going after kids.”


If anyone wants the rest of the article, I can provide it in further posts if you ask
 

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do you remember these adds;

My parents both smoked. Neither died from a smoking related disease. Satan is the murderer and sin the root of all diseases. However, I do not smoke and for sure no one should smoke. It's pointless - like many human activities. And yes, some people suffer health issues as a result. I've met 90 year olds who still enjoy a puff.

No, I don't remember the ads. I'm 72 and I lived in England until I was nearly 13. Smoking was as normal as breathing in those days. It's odd, but health professionals are more likely (in Australia) to smoke than the general population. Physician, heal thyself..........

Of course, this has nothing to do with vaccination. There are far more controls and monitoring of pharmaceuticals these days. Pharmaceutical companies are run by humans with the intent of making profit. They need to be watched. mRNA vaccines are nothing new. Vaccination has saved hundreds of millions of lives. This hysteria around mRNA vaccines is baseless. When I see dead bodies of vaccinated Australians littering the streets, I will start to worry.
 

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My parents both smoked. Neither died from a smoking related disease. Satan is the murderer and sin the root of all diseases. However, I do not smoke and for sure no one should smoke. It's pointless - like many human activities. And yes, some people suffer health issues as a result. I've met 90 year olds who still enjoy a puff.

No, I don't remember the ads. I'm 72 and I lived in England until I was nearly 13. Smoking was as normal as breathing in those days. It's odd, but health professionals are more likely (in Australia) to smoke than the general population. Physician, heal thyself..........

Of course, this has nothing to do with vaccination. There are far more controls and monitoring of pharmaceuticals these days. Pharmaceutical companies are run by humans with the intent of making profit. They need to be watched. mRNA vaccines are nothing new. Vaccination has saved hundreds of millions of lives. This hysteria around mRNA vaccines is baseless. When I see dead bodies of vaccinated Australians littering the streets, I will start to worry.
Once again, no one really cares if or when you are worried about the vaccine. The issue is over mandating the vaccine. According to the international law, if you mandate an Experimental vaccine (and that is what this is) then you have to be fully transparent with all the data and research they have on the vaccine (they weren't, at first Pfizer wanted to keep the research sealed for 75 years). Second, you can only mandate an experimental vaccine if you are in an emergency which is why all of the evidence of them inflating the numbers is important, it was critical to justifying the mandate. Third, you cannot mandate a vaccine if there are effective treatments. There were, both Ivermectin and HCQ have been proven in clinical studies and peer reviewed research to be effective treatments. This is why Fauci and others prohibiting the use of Ivermectin and HCQ and mocking those two drugs as "horse dewormer" and "bleach" is also a sign of potential fraud.

These are the things that we are concerned about because they are criminal. As I have said before all those who refused to get the vaccine, like myself, appreciate those willing to be human guinea pigs (like yourself). We don't want you to be worried, but that is not a concern that this thread is addressing.
 

Gideon300

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As for the incorporated DNA in the human genome it depends where it will be incorporated. In the normal process with a normal vaccine the immune cells do keep a COPY of the DNA or RNA if the infecting virus in a sort of ""database,"" it is used as a memory and will help the immune system produce antibodies rapidly in case of a reinfection, however the mRNA of the covid shot does not work this way, it is not known at this time what will come of this it is an experimental vaccine. it is too complex for me to explain this here in simple terms but many scientists do not like this vaccine types for good reasons. Just be careful and well informed before taking these vaccines,. I know healthy people who died within a year after vaccination, another lost a leg due to blood clots a few weeks after the vaccine and many more who's are rapidly deteriorating.

i posted no 42 of this thread a pfizer report that was forced out of them by courts of law it is a bit complex to read but it is good info. ( the link for the pfizer report is towards the end of the web page)


Blessings.
First mRNA vaccine was tested on humans in 2013. Experiments began in the 1960's. It's not exactly new. Estimated death toll from COVID 19 6.9 million, a bit less than 10% of those infected. The pandemic is over. Vaccines certainly saved lives and contributed to the end of the pandemic.
 

Gideon300

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Once again, no one really cares if or when you are worried about the vaccine. The issue is over mandating the vaccine. According to the international law, if you mandate an Experimental vaccine (and that is what this is) then you have to be fully transparent with all the data and research they have on the vaccine (they weren't, at first Pfizer wanted to keep the research sealed for 75 years). Second, you can only mandate an experimental vaccine if you are in an emergency which is why all of the evidence of them inflating the numbers is important, it was critical to justifying the mandate. Third, you cannot mandate a vaccine if there are effective treatments. There were, both Ivermectin and HCQ have been proven in clinical studies and peer reviewed research to be effective treatments. This is why Fauci and others prohibiting the use of Ivermectin and HCQ and mocking those two drugs as "horse dewormer" and "bleach" is also a sign of potential fraud.

These are the things that we are concerned about because they are criminal. As I have said before all those who refused to get the vaccine, like myself, appreciate those willing to be human guinea pigs (like yourself). We don't want you to be worried, but that is not a concern that this thread is addressing.
Why should exposed lies be a concern? Invermectin is indeed an animal treatment and HCQ is in no way an antiviral. Neither are of any use and invermectin can be positively harmful. Unless you are a horse. Of course, this is irrelevant to the thread also.
 

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Why should exposed lies be a concern? Invermectin is indeed an animal treatment and HCQ is in no way an antiviral. Neither are of any use and invermectin can be positively harmful. Unless you are a horse. Of course, this is irrelevant to the thread also.
They have been proven to be effective and those studies have already been posted on this forum.
 

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My parents both smoked. Neither died from a smoking related disease. Satan is the murderer and sin the root of all diseases. However, I do not smoke and for sure no one should smoke. It's pointless - like many human activities. And yes, some people suffer health issues as a result. I've met 90 year olds who still enjoy a puff.

No, I don't remember the ads. I'm 72 and I lived in England until I was nearly 13. Smoking was as normal as breathing in those days. It's odd, but health professionals are more likely (in Australia) to smoke than the general population. Physician, heal thyself..........

Of course, this has nothing to do with vaccination. There are far more controls and monitoring of pharmaceuticals these days. Pharmaceutical companies are run by humans with the intent of making profit. They need to be watched. mRNA vaccines are nothing new. Vaccination has saved hundreds of millions of lives. This hysteria around mRNA vaccines is baseless. When I see dead bodies of vaccinated Australians littering the streets, I will start to worry.
Hi Gideon, when people see a guy in a white shirt with a stethoscope on their shoulder they beleive anything that doctors says, it is the same thing today.

these experimental gene therapy do not work, the delivery method used ( positively charges synthetic lipid nanoparticles) used to encapsulate and protect the synthetic mRNA inside these nano sized lipid capsules are the novelty, they go everywhere in the body ( proven fact ) they enter the cells of blood vessels, and cells around the blood vessels, they go to the brain, lung, liver ect... once there inside the cells, the mRNA produces the spike protein in the cells ( the spike protein is toxic, proven fact ) now your immune systems detects this and produces antibodies against the spike protein but also to other proteins in the surface of these these cells! you may think how so since the spike protein is now in the cells, well when a cell does not know what to this do with these extra protein mass produces by this mRNA that are produced non stop, it fuses them to the cell menbrane end excretes these small vesicles called exosomes outside the cells, they can enter cells nearby or be caught by the immune system who will produce antibodies also against this exosome that has on its surface proteins part of the cell of origin. This does not happen with a regular vaccine, the immune system produces antibodies again the viral proteins on the surface of the inactivated dead virus. sorry it it is complicated but it is the best i can do to try to explain how this ""Vaccine"" works. i did not described all the problems these vaccine will cause, I could write a book on this but it is not the purpose of this forum.

As for the people falling dead in the streets if does not work this way, it is a slow cumulative poison, please do research on excess mortality by country , look at the lase 50 years you will see the numbers suddenly going up since the start of the covid vaccination.

I posted earlier a link to a clinical report by zfizer, please read it, if you dare, please know it will ruin your day.

I will no longer post anything about the mRNA vaccines I have warned people of the potential dangers, I can do no more.

Blessings,
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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Hi everyone, I will no longer post anything about the mRNA vaccines or participate on threads on the topic, As a researcher, I have warned people of the potential dangers, I can do no more. the data on the mRNA vaccine is out there, you do not need to be a scientist to understand, the conclusion part of a scientific paper is normally easy to understand, you can do your own searches in PUBMED, link below;

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/

Blessings,
 

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Hi everyone, I will no longer post anything about the mRNA vaccines or participate on threads on the topic, As a researcher, I have warned people of the potential dangers, I can do no more. the data on the mRNA vaccine is out there, you do not need to be a scientist to understand, the conclusion part of a scientific paper is normally easy to understand, you can do your own searches in PUBMED, link below;

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/

Blessings,
Agree, let it go.
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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I expected you quick reply! you are one of the reasons, sometimes I hate to participate in forums, i know this makes you happy, you can now put back your head in the sand, it will make you comfortable. have a good day.
 

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Thanks ”Dr” Fauci.
I expected you quick reply! you are one of the reasons, sometimes I hate to participate in forums, i know this makes you happy, you can now put back your head in the sand, it will make you comfortable. have a good day.