In What Year Was the Whole Holy Bible Completed?

[Locoponydirtman]

Southern Baptist are like other Baptists but with tastier food.

If you like fried everything.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

Since I know this from FIRST HAND experience:

What do Southern Baptist Preachers have in common with Satan?

Give them both 2 minutes, and they will remove a Verse from where it belongs, place it somewhere else, and claim, it's the Actual Word of God, word for word!

That's how TULIP, OSAS, Pre-Mill, Election [Elect vs non Elect] was all basically MAN MADE created!

Along with pentecostals, and methodist, and most revivalists.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

 

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[ResidentAlien]

"Why don't you just avoid bad analogies altogether and just read to your people from the athanasian creed?"

This guy would probably get along great with the Pentecostal in this video.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

 

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[RaceRunner]

Deuteronomy 4:2
You shall not add to the word that I speak to you, neither shall you take away from it: keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Many brought up Revelation 11 and the Temple: for the false Pre-Mill Doctrine

11:1 And there was given me a reed like a rod, saying: Arise and measure the temple of God and the altar and those that worship in it.

1. Where is John when he has this VISION?
2. It is a VISION
3. He is in Patmos, which is near Greece, NOWHERE close to any Temple of God

A. But, John, in this VISION, measures the Temple, in this VISION.

All throughout this Vision, John, is in HEAVEN
so, the Temple, John, is measuring, is in HEAVEN



How can someone actually ignore the fact, this is a VISION, John is SEEING things, A DREAM, he is not physically doing anything, but DREAMING.

But more than anything else, John, is DREAMING, he is in HEAVEN watching Angels, Bowls, Seals, God on His Throne, 24 Elders, he see's the Beheaded, those who the 144k bring to Christ, HE IS IN HEAVEN!!! And so is the TEMPLE he is measuring, in HEAVEN!

How can people believe this is a physical Temple before 70 AD?

John is in HEAVEN, when he Measures, the Temple, not on earth!

He is DREAMING!!

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

That was uncalled for.

I have read throughout all of your posts here, and the only thing I have found is that your behavior is in direct violation of the principles Paul outlined in his epistles:

"But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not carry out the desire of the flesh. For the flesh sets its desire against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; for these are in opposition to one another, so that you may not do the things that you please. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the Law. Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. Now those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit. Let us not become boastful, challenging one another, envying one another." (Galatians 5:16-26, NASB, emphasis mine)

I strongly recommend that before you post anything else here, you might want to go before the Lord in repentance. All you are doing right now is harming others with a cudgel shaped from your own arrogance.

I will not reply back to you unless and until you have done so.

And yes: I am a dispensational, Pre-trib Rapture, Pre-Millennial return believer because Scripture proves it.

Let that keep you up at night.

-Sojo414

I will begin with You!


Many brought up Revelation 11 and the Temple: for the false Pre-Mill Doctrine

11:1 And there was given me a reed like a rod, saying: Arise and measure the temple of God and the altar and those that worship in it.

1. Where is John when he has this VISION?
2. It is a VISION
3. He is in Patmos, which is near Greece, NOWHERE close to any Temple of God

A. But, John, in this VISION, measures the Temple, in this VISION.

All throughout this Vision, John, is in HEAVEN
so, the Temple, John, is measuring, is in HEAVEN



How can someone actually ignore the fact, this is a VISION, John, is SEEING things, A DREAM, he is not physically doing anything, but DREAMING.

But more than anything else, John, is DREAMING, he is in HEAVEN watching Angels, Bowls, Seals, Wrath, God on His Throne, 24 Elders, he see's the Beheaded, Sea of Glass, those who the 144k bring to Christ, HE IS IN HEAVEN!!! And so is the TEMPLE he is measuring, in HEAVEN!

How can people believe this is a physical Temple before 70 AD?

John, is in HEAVEN, when he Measures the Temple, not on earth!

He is DREAMING!!

 

[BearerOfTheMorningStar]

Investigating this really cool find by Nehmiah on the technical argument the whole holy Bible could be regarded as compiled in the 200s AD. Though this textus Italaca is interesting and contains the canon as well as some of the deuterocanon (which is rather only of side importance since deuteroncanon is uninspired by God, but faithful to true history), this is actually a fairly worthy point for the OP to consider in terms of amending the poll since technically one could claim that it be the WHOLE Holy Bible in one anthology and canonical without the heretical books going by another name and a few superficial scribal errors. Though technically to this arguments' counter, in a kinda trollishly but technically true manner it wasn't called The Holy Bible, therefore technically the vote of The Holy Bible as a whole book still would best be represented in the vote of 300-399 AD by the parameters of the poll. As an interesting side note I mean, it is even noted in your link and some of the background digging, that this text was used and refined and scrutinized in those said councils of the 300s AD which really just points us back to this answer anyways, though it is a good at least answer and interesting subject matter to chew on and dig into, I would say in faith of the topic, praise Jesus.

Evidently you are not aware of three important facts: (1) the Syriac Peshitta from the 2nd century already had the bulk of the Bible in the order in which we have it; (2) the Muratori Canon from the 2nd century also reflects that same order and (3) the Itala or Old Latin Bible was also in existence at that time. "It is generally admitted that long before the end of the second century, Latin translations, though rude and defective, of Tobias, I and II Machabees, and Baruch were in use and that towards the close of the same period, there existed at least one version of the whole Bible, based on the Septuagint and on Greek manuscripts of the New Testament. This was the Vetus Itala, or Old Latin."
https://www.realdouayrheims.com/vetusitala.html

Which means that the complete Bible was already in circulation in the 2nd century. But the Catholic Church wanted to take credit for the completion of the Bible much later on (even though their Bible has a bunch of non-canonical books).

 

[Mem]

According to Daniel 12:4, the Holy Bible will not be wholely complete until the time of the end, but why there is no option for that vote?

But you, Daniel, shut up these words and seal the book until the time of the end. Many will roam to and fro, and knowledge will increase.”

 

[BearerOfTheMorningStar]

According to Daniel 12:4, the Holy Bible will not be wholely complete until the time of the end, but why there is no option for that vote?

But you, Daniel, shut up these words and seal the book until the time of the end. Many will roam to and fro, and knowledge will increase.”

Well that's when all written therein shall be fulfilled and known for certainty, but then it'll no more be faith cause they'll find out while we praise Jesus!

 

[Mem]

https://christianchat.com/reactions/list/post/5089206

It seems rather puerile to laugh fixed rules of interpretation. Although, it shouldn't be surprising when I consider the spirit and sentiments repeatedly expressed by this thread.

 

[Dino246]

Deuteronomy 4:2
You shall not add to the word that I speak to you, neither shall you take away from it: keep the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you.

Mhmm... a verse with no context or explanation posted in white-on-white displaying your agenda to obfuscate instead of to illuminate.

 

[BearerOfTheMorningStar]

https://christianchat.com/reactions/list/post/5089206

It seems rather puerile to laugh fixed rules of interpretation. Although, it shouldn't be surprising when I consider the spirit and sentiments repeatedly expressed by this thread.

Lol the laugh emoji for clarification was awarded because it seems you would imply that an option to vote for The End Of The World should be added to the poll, which actually could be a valid argument possibly to sway my vote.

 

[Mem]

Lol the laugh emoji for clarification was awarded because it seems you would imply that an option to vote for The End Of The World should be added to the poll, which actually could be a valid argument possibly to sway my vote.

I can accept that clarification since it doesn't seem to contradict your reply 275, and especially the phrasing, "...and known for certain." As it is, we have the Holy Bible but I'm not certain there isn't any editing, with regard to a particular certain meaning or another, that would yet be warranted. I am aware that whatever council might've determined that it is "perfected," and there is no need for further editing but then, aren't we also being made perfect day by day and that work will not be "complete" until that last day?

 

[BearerOfTheMorningStar]

I can accept that clarification since it doesn't seem to contradict your reply 275, and especially the phrasing, "...and known for certain." As it is, we have the Holy Bible but I'm not certain there isn't any editing, with regard to a particular certain meaning or another, that would yet be warranted. I am aware that whatever council might've determined that it is "perfected," and there is no need for further editing but then, aren't we also being made perfect day by day and that work will not be "complete" until that last day?

From my understanding there is some editting. But the editting isn't like in terms of deleting parts of the valid Bible, but rather editting of supeerficial things like scribal errors and what not. It be like basically editting out typos rather than removing the substance of the book. The doesn't means the Bible writer whom is holy inspired by God made a typo or error, but just that some scribe made a typo in transcribing it. You have to remember until the printing press is invented (largely to promote The Holy Bible) all books are copied out by hand, so therefore superficial scribal errors just will occur naturally even with faithful scribes staying faithful to the text.