In What Year Was the Whole Holy Bible Completed?

[The_Watchers_2017]

How did Jesus send out His disciples?

They were not specifically called Olive Branches, like the Two Witnesses of Revelation 11!

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

I am not twisted I follow what Jesus stated very clearly.

But he answered and said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.—Matthew 24:34

Since you resorted to ad hominem I am no longer interested in discussing with you.

I do feel sorry for you tying up your persona (Watcher) with a faulty interpretation instead of the plain understanding of what Jesus stated and to whom He spoke and what it meant to them not 2000 or more years into the future.

I know the first portion of Matthew 24 is about 70 AD, but Revelation, is completely different.

 

[Cameron143]

They were not specifically called Olive Branches, like the Two Witnesses of Revelation 11!

The church has been engrafted.

 

[HeIsHere]

Never heard that one before. Perhaps you are confusing John with Peter, who they say was martyred by Nero?

I think this holds as much weight as Ireneaus

The Syriac History of John, the Son of Zebedee makes reference to John’s banishment under Nero, who reigned from 54 to 68 AD. It states:

“After these things, when the Gospel was increasing by the hands of the Apostles, Nero, the unclean and impure and wicked king, heard all that had happened at Ephesus. And he sent and took all that the procurator had and imprisoned him; and laid hold of St. John and drove him into exile; and passed sentence on the city that it should be laid waste.”

https://www.nasscal.com/e-clavis-christian-apocrypha/history-of-john-syriac/

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

In Matthew 24, the 7 Churches DID NOT exist yet
but Revelation begins with the Existence of the 7 Churches.

So, the 2 Books speak of different Events.
How are you so BLIND to not know in Matt, the 7 Churches DID NOT exist but in Revelation, they did ... AND... NEEDED to be CORRECTED, which Jesus told John what was wrong and John became Bishop and fixed it.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

The church has been engrafted.

Look, you know it does not align. why try?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

In Matthew 24, the 7 Churches DID NOT exist yet
but Revelation begins with the Existence of the 7 Churches.

So, the 2 Books speak of different Events.
How are (((((you))))) [[[[[[[so BLIND]]]]]]] to not know in Matt, the 7 Churches DID NOT exist but in Revelation, they did ... AND... NEEDED to be CORRECTED, which Jesus told John what was wrong and John became Bishop and fixed it.

 

[BearerOfTheMorningStar]

I think this holds as much weight as Ireneaus

The Syriac History of John, the Son of Zebedee makes reference to John’s banishment under Nero, who reigned from 54 to 68 AD. It states:

“After these things, when the Gospel was increasing by the hands of the Apostles, Nero, the unclean and impure and wicked king, heard all that had happened at Ephesus. And he sent and took all that the procurator had and imprisoned him; and laid hold of St. John and drove him into exile; and passed sentence on the city that it should be laid waste.”

https://www.nasscal.com/e-clavis-christian-apocrypha/history-of-john-syriac/

I will look into this.

 

[HeIsHere]

I know the first portion of Matthew 24 is about 70 AD, but Revelation, is completely different.

They actually line up really well, if you wanted you could research it with an open mind.

 

[Cameron143]

Look, you know it does not align. why try?

We obviously view it differently, but you have convinced yourself of certain things. I was just seeing how open you were to a discussion.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

They actually line up really well, if you wanted you could research it with an open mind.

You really have to ignore the Holy Spirit to make them align. But then again, Calvinist always ignore the Holy Spirit to yank Verses out of place to create false doctrines.

 

[HeIsHere]

I will look into this.

Please do the research on the dating of John, I think you will find if your mind is open it was written before 70AD

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

We obviously view it differently, but you have convinced yourself of certain things. I was just seeing how open you were to a discussion.

How?

If I was confused here, we do have the Church Fathers, 10 tells us specifically the same thing I am saying.

Howe come their word is no good?

You that out of it and long gone?

 

[HeIsHere]

You really have to ignore the Holy Spirit to make them align. But then again, Calvinist always ignore the Holy Spirit to yank Verses out of place to create false doctrines.

I am as far from Calvinism as one can be!!

Yeah I was a deluded futurist too, self deception is very powerful.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Please do the research on the dating of John, I think you will find if your mind is open it was written before 70AD

PAPYRUS 98 (P98)
Nov 27, 2022 — It is a papyrus manuscript of the Book of Revelation. ... A tiny fragment that dates to about 100-150 A.D.

Papyrus 98, means they have settled that Revelation was written around 98 AD.

This TEST was conducted (([[[[LESS THAN]]])) ((6 Months ago))!

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

^ TESTED, LESS THAN 6 Months AGO!

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Take your ADVERSARY, Pre-Mill, Following selfs, run out the door and don't let the door hit ya on the way out!

 

[HeIsHere]

PAPYRUS 98 (P98)
Nov 27, 2022 — It is a papyrus manuscript of the Book of Revelation. ... A tiny fragment that dates to about 100-150 A.D.

Papyrus 98, means they have settled that Revelation was written around 98 AD.

This TEST was conducted (([[[[LESS THAN]]])) ((6 Months ago))!

It is a copy, not the original. I am pretty sure John was dead by 150AD

Okay I am done, you seem triggered because you are too emotionally invested in being right and in your view.


Papyrus 98 (in the Gregory–Aland numbering), designated by 𝔓98, is an early copy of the New Testament in Greek. It is a papyrus manuscript of the Book of Revelation.
The manuscript paleographically had been assigned to years 150–175.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Please do the research on the dating of John, I think you will find if your mind is open it was written before 70AD

Knowing THIS MUCH:
PAPYRUS 98 (P98)
Nov 27, 2022 — It is a papyrus manuscript of the Book of Revelation. ... A tiny fragment that dates to about 100-150 A.D.

Papyrus 98, means they have settled that Revelation was written around 98 AD.

This TEST was conducted (([[[[LESS THAN]]])) ((6 Months ago))!


...makes this portion of Your Post very Dangerous [[if your mind is open]]
Just How Open does Your mind need to remain to believe a LIE?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

It is a copy, not the original. I am pretty sure John was dead by 150AD

Okay I am done, you seem triggered because you are too emotionally invested in being right and in your view.


Papyrus 98 (in the Gregory–Aland numbering), designated by 𝔓98, is an early copy of the New Testament in Greek. It is a papyrus manuscript of the Book of Revelation.
The manuscript paleographically had been assigned to years 150–175.

THEY ALL SAY COPY!

Are you this Blind?

Each Papyrus begins with a COPY!!

Here is for Matthew:
Papyrus 37 designated by 𝔓37 (in the Gregory-Aland numbering) [[is an early copy]] of the New Testament in Greek. It is a papyrus manuscript of the Gospel of Matthew


Not a SINGLE PAPYRUS says original, THEY ALL SAY COPY!

You did not prove anything!!