In What Year Was the Whole Holy Bible Completed?
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You should figure out what the whole Holy Bible is if you look at the poll results for this thread poll, if by that time you don't figure out what the whole Holy Bible is, you may never. 
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Hello @RaceRunner, the Biblical "Canon" of 66 Books (OT/NT), the same 66 Book Biblical Canon that we use today, was first listed (officially) by St. Athanasus in the 4th Century (AD 367 to be exact) if memory serves. Thanks to the Library of the Fathers, we also know that at 22 of the 27 NT Books were in regular/widespread use in the church by the middle of the 2nd Century.
You asked us when the whole Holy Bible was completed, which to most of us simply means, "when did the human authors of the Bible finish writing it down"? (or more specifically, when did the Apostle John finish writing the Book of Revelation?). I think that this may be what is behind all of the confusion in this thread, just FYI.
~Deuteronomy
You asked us when the whole Holy Bible was completed, which to most of us simply means, "when did the human authors of the Bible finish writing it down"? (or more specifically, when did the Apostle John finish writing the Book of Revelation?). I think that this may be what is behind all of the confusion in this thread, just FYI.
~Deuteronomy
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Apparently you don't, because you keep ignoring Matthew 7:12, 1 Cor 13:4 and Galatians 5:22 (amongst others).
Seriously, I've been here about a day, and after reading through this topic, all I see of your posts are slams, insults and put downs of others who do not subscribe to your version of how we got the Bible. When you have to resort to those, then perhaps the point you're trying to make isn't a valid one after all...
Seriously, I've been here about a day, and after reading through this topic, all I see of your posts are slams, insults and put downs of others who do not subscribe to your version of how we got the Bible. When you have to resort to those, then perhaps the point you're trying to make isn't a valid one after all...
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People without the Holy Spirit of God often do not accept love from Christians.
They certainly do not accept correction, or even honest questions.
Their response to such makes a mockery of truth.
But I am curious...
Because I have witnessed you get into dust-ups more than
once, and call people out on their reprehensible behaviour.
When is this acceptable for others to do?
They certainly do not accept correction, or even honest questions.
Their response to such makes a mockery of truth.
But I am curious...
Because I have witnessed you get into dust-ups more than
once, and call people out on their reprehensible behaviour.
When is this acceptable for others to do?
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I have only done that with people I believed to be Christians and who seemed more interested in being right without also being loving.
And I don't always get it right. If I have to be perfect before offering correction, I would be unqualified to offer correction.
I never offer correction because I feel superior to another person. I offer it because I have personally known the benefit of such correction, and want better for others. When it isn't received that way, the fault lies in me.
And I don't always get it right. If I have to be perfect before offering correction, I would be unqualified to offer correction.
I never offer correction because I feel superior to another person. I offer it because I have personally known the benefit of such correction, and want better for others. When it isn't received that way, the fault lies in me.
It's obvious that when correction is offered, the one in need of correction often refuses it.
They will claim they said things they did not, assert you have made claims you did not, repeatedly
make erroneous assumptions and false accusations, and then turn around and slap you in the face
when you remind them of what was actually said on either side as exchanges happened, while they
continue to deny what anyone and everyone can see on the boards, and repeating their falsehoods
all over again with a heaping side of insults while they call you rude or mean or unChristlike because
you dared to have the effrontery to show them where they have been wrong. Believe it or not, I want
the best for them also. I certainly do not always get it right either. But you cannot force another to
accept the truth when they are so far off the rails they wouldn't recognize it if it bit them in the proverbial...
A recently banned poster comes to mind now also, someone who was ousted while I was on hiatus in February.
Come to think of it I wonder if he is back. Some refuse to go quietly. I have seen it time and again. But I digress.
The greatest quality I see on this site is kindness, so the lack of that would most likely be the greatest sin I see.
I do not say a lot of things out of kindness. Nobody knows that though, because it is unheard and unseen.
They will claim they said things they did not, assert you have made claims you did not, repeatedly
make erroneous assumptions and false accusations, and then turn around and slap you in the face
when you remind them of what was actually said on either side as exchanges happened, while they
continue to deny what anyone and everyone can see on the boards, and repeating their falsehoods
all over again with a heaping side of insults while they call you rude or mean or unChristlike because
you dared to have the effrontery to show them where they have been wrong. Believe it or not, I want
the best for them also. I certainly do not always get it right either. But you cannot force another to
accept the truth when they are so far off the rails they wouldn't recognize it if it bit them in the proverbial...
A recently banned poster comes to mind now also, someone who was ousted while I was on hiatus in February.
Come to think of it I wonder if he is back. Some refuse to go quietly. I have seen it time and again. But I digress.
The greatest quality I see on this site is kindness, so the lack of that would most likely be the greatest sin I see.
I do not say a lot of things out of kindness. Nobody knows that though, because it is unheard and unseen.
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I see a difference between correction and instruction. Neither is generally well received but one is a reminder of what one already knows and isn't practicing and the other is given in cases of error.
When I'm engaging with individuals, I'm seeking 2 things. First, what they believe and why. Second, I'm gauging how receptive they are. I usually begin to end conversations when the other person demonstrates that they aren't receptive. If the Holy Spirit prompts me to continue I will but when people aren't valuing what you have to say, there really is no reason to keep saying it.
The other thing is, I'm only invested in a conversation as I sense God is interested. Unlike many, I don't need to have a sense that I won the point. I don't need to have the last word. I don't need to defend myself personally or the position I have taken. And I always try to remember that the person I'm chatting with bears the image of the living God. They have great intrinsic value regardless of how little of that image is on display.
All the above I do imperfectly. So sometimes I have need to apologize. I understand Snackers frustration. I share it sometimes. But forgiveness doesn't become necessary at the point of asking. It is necessary at the point we take offense. We can cover people's sins or we can record them. And forgiveness isn't only for the well-being of others. It releases bitterness from our own hearts.
When I'm engaging with individuals, I'm seeking 2 things. First, what they believe and why. Second, I'm gauging how receptive they are. I usually begin to end conversations when the other person demonstrates that they aren't receptive. If the Holy Spirit prompts me to continue I will but when people aren't valuing what you have to say, there really is no reason to keep saying it.
The other thing is, I'm only invested in a conversation as I sense God is interested. Unlike many, I don't need to have a sense that I won the point. I don't need to have the last word. I don't need to defend myself personally or the position I have taken. And I always try to remember that the person I'm chatting with bears the image of the living God. They have great intrinsic value regardless of how little of that image is on display.
All the above I do imperfectly. So sometimes I have need to apologize. I understand Snackers frustration. I share it sometimes. But forgiveness doesn't become necessary at the point of asking. It is necessary at the point we take offense. We can cover people's sins or we can record them. And forgiveness isn't only for the well-being of others. It releases bitterness from our own hearts.
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Now this is interesting, considering, that Papias and Polycarp, 2 very very very well known Disciples of the Apostle John, did not even meet, John, until mid 80's AD, and are the 2 of the Pastors who take over the 7 Churches, written in Revelation 1 and 2, when John becomes Bishop in 96 AD over Ephesus.
John, doesn't take over the Role of Bishop until after his release from Patmos, by Roman Emperor Trajen [Roman Archives], around 96 AD.
Your dates are impossible, knowing, that Papias, and Polycarp, and Ignatius, and Ireneaus, all confirm this 96 AD date of Release from Patmos.
Even the Papyrus Dating Method, confirms, Book of Revelation was written late 90's AD, because of how the Parchment Paper was made. It was the Newest Method that the Ancient World discovered around 80 AD.
John, doesn't take over the Role of Bishop until after his release from Patmos, by Roman Emperor Trajen [Roman Archives], around 96 AD.
Your dates are impossible, knowing, that Papias, and Polycarp, and Ignatius, and Ireneaus, all confirm this 96 AD date of Release from Patmos.
Even the Papyrus Dating Method, confirms, Book of Revelation was written late 90's AD, because of how the Parchment Paper was made. It was the Newest Method that the Ancient World discovered around 80 AD.
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Those who are falsely claiming the whole Holy Bible existed/was completed between AD 30 and AD 100 are the ones who are risking their whole salvation for a lie.
You know what happens when someone risks their whole salvation for a lie built on a faulty foundation.
You know what happens when someone risks their whole salvation for a lie built on a faulty foundation.