Does the Bible support the idea of a spinning ball earth flying through space, or is that a Satanic, Masonic lie?

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gb9

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Jesus Christ is showing you in the picture below. :cool:
so, i take it you are one of the flat earth Christians who believe that one cannot be a true Christian unless they also believe in flat earth....
 

RaceRunner

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so, i take it you are one of the flat earth Christians who believe that one cannot be a true Christian unless they also believe in flat earth....
I don't believe you have to believe anything.
 

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A circle is not a sphere; the earth is not globular.
The key word in that verse you provided was 'globe' and not sphere. A globe is round. Definitely circular too a it would appear from a distance in outer space. That particular verse you provided from Isaiah contradicts your position that the earth is flat.
 

Moses_Young

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wow talk about not caring if your wrong, but you sir really have excelled in this field.
You've ignored at least 20 good reasons that prove the theories of what your basing your information on don't hold substance to your claim.
I don't typically engage with elephant hurlers. Name one or two of your best arguments, and if you're genuine, I might show you how they're wrong. You produce a list of chaff, and most won't bother.

Sir are you also going to dismiss Google earth and satellite data, plus live broadcasts from space stations in space.
Google Earth is a collection of photographs. Which are flat...
Are you going to ignor 60 years of documentaries, plus how children are taught at school how our planet works ?
Appeal to authority or bandwagon. A logical fallacy, either way.

Sir your probably in a 0.1% margin with your belief out of the entire population of aldults on our planet with your beliefs.
Thank you. I like to believe I'm above average in some things.

Why would you want to be so different to popular belief and proven science ?.
Truth is more important to me than popularity.

Because the bible said God made the sun stand still and left the earth part out ?.
Arguing from the silence of scripture?

Sir this is no reason to prove the earth is flat.
You mistake the burden of proof here. Flat Earth is an observation. Ball Earth is your claim, and it is you who need to prove it, as the default is our observation, that the Earth is flat.

You really have lost it friend.
Projection.

A statement of fact does not need to have explicit biblical support. Male humans produce sperm and female humans produce eggs. Two of them, one of each kind, join together to make a zygote; the Bible says no such thing, but it is true nonetheless.
Genesis 1:27-28 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Um, no. God is not limited by physics at all. If He were, the event would not have happened at all. ;)
I didn't say He was limited by physics. The event was real, and God stopped the sun, which implies that it was the sun which was (and still is to this day) moving.

None of these directly precludes heliocentricity. It's only your misunderstanding of them that does so.
You don't need to accept it, but they do.

There are scientifically sound explanations for the first two assertions; some people hold to the third but I don't as I see no need for it.
I outlined the valid scientific explanations. They are lacking philosophically, and/or in what we know of the nature of God.

You might think your statement is a valid argument, but it isn't. You are pretending that you have proven (or that someone else has) that stars are closer and that heliocentric theory has been disproven. That's the essence of circular reasoning.
You forget the burden of proof. I don't need to prove Flat Earth. It is an observation. Failure to prove ball-Earth - which you have thus far failed to prove - results in acceptance of what we observe, which is Flat Earth. No circular reasoning required.

Here I agree with you.
Congratulations. I hope you enjoy being right for once.

You are making an error of scale. The sun is billions of times brighter than a weak torch, and the degree to which the atmosphere inhibits light is not billions of times greater at the distances under discussion.
And yet the same physics apply, just on a greater scale. Science.

This does not come from nor does it describe literal light and darkness; it is a philosophical axiom based (ultimately) on the nature of sin-ridden yet God-created humanity.
Opinion.

This is either sheer arrogance or blatant ignorance. Flat earth is not "an observation" but an interpretation based on misinterpretation of Scripture (for those who believe in Scripture) or science (for those who don't).
It is very much an observation. Indeed, one of the main excuses of heliocentrists is that we can't see the curvature of the Earth because we are not high enough. Lol.

I observe conditions in the real world that are consistent with a globe earth and inconsistent with a flat earth.
No. You apply a heliocentric theory to explain conditions in the real world that you believe are consistent with a globe Earth, and which you believe are inconsistent with a Flat Earth. What you observe is still a Flat Earth.
 

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19 out of how many?
ALL PILOTS KNOW THE EARTH IS LEVEL! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

If the Earth were truly a sphere 25,000 miles in circumference, airplane pilots would have to constantly correct their altitudes downwards so as to not fly straight off into “outer space;” a pilot wishing to simply maintain their altitude at a typical cruising speed of 500 mph, would have to constantly dip their nose downwards and descend 2,777 feet (over half a mile) every minute! Otherwise, without compensation, in one hour’s time the pilot would find themselves 31.5 miles higher than expected.

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RaceRunner

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The key word in that verse you provided was 'globe' and not sphere. A globe is round. Definitely circular too a it would appear from a distance in outer space. That particular verse you provided from Isaiah contradicts your position that the earth is flat.
A CIRCLE IS NOT A GLOBE. :p
 

Ted01

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ALL PILOTS KNOW THE EARTH IS LEVEL! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

If the Earth were truly a sphere 25,000 miles in circumference, airplane pilots would have to constantly correct their altitudes downwards so as to not fly straight off into “outer space;” a pilot wishing to simply maintain their altitude at a typical cruising speed of 500 mph, would have to constantly dip their nose downwards and descend 2,777 feet (over half a mile) every minute! Otherwise, without compensation, in one hour’s time the pilot would find themselves 31.5 miles higher than expected.

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LOL... so it's 19 out of something 1,000,000?
 

Ted01

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LOL... so it's 19 out of something 1,000,000?
Actually, I just googled it... it's between 1.5 - 2.3 million pilots...
but your 19 disagree with the rest... and you believe them?
 

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I don't typically engage with elephant hurlers. Name one or two of your best arguments, and if you're genuine, I might show you how they're wrong. You produce a list of chaff, and most won't bother.

Google Earth is a collection of photographs. Which are flat...
Appeal to authority or bandwagon. A logical fallacy, either way.

Thank you. I like to believe I'm above average in some things.

Truth is more important to me than popularity.

Arguing from the silence of scripture?

You mistake the burden of proof here. Flat Earth is an observation. Ball Earth is your claim, and it is you who need to prove it, as the default is our observation, that the Earth is flat.

Projection.

Genesis 1:27-28 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

I didn't say He was limited by physics. The event was real, and God stopped the sun, which implies that it was the sun which was (and still is to this day) moving.

You don't need to accept it, but they do.

I outlined the valid scientific explanations. They are lacking philosophically, and/or in what we know of the nature of God.

You forget the burden of proof. I don't need to prove Flat Earth. It is an observation. Failure to prove ball-Earth - which you have thus far failed to prove - results in acceptance of what we observe, which is Flat Earth. No circular reasoning required.

Congratulations. I hope you enjoy being right for once.

And yet the same physics apply, just on a greater scale. Science.

Opinion.

It is very much an observation. Indeed, one of the main excuses of heliocentrists is that we can't see the curvature of the Earth because we are not high enough. Lol.

No. You apply a heliocentric theory to explain conditions in the real world that you believe are consistent with a globe Earth, and which you believe are inconsistent with a Flat Earth. What you observe is still a Flat Earth.
you can't see the curvature of the earth because its extremely huge, the only way to see it, is to view it from space.

Which for some reason millions of satellites orbiting in space is a myth but yet the company I work for relays informatioñ from over 100 satellites orbiting earth in line with its spin.

That's so anyone of our trucks all over the world has tracking Gps plus global communication all over the word, plus the ability to transmit video data via a satellite in space.

If a truck moves from one region to another in the opposite direction the earth is spinning it quickly loses its satellite that is also spinning with the natural rotation of earth's space, until it locks on to another.

But yet theese sattelites are so clever you fail to recognises they can show earth's true image.

Or perhaps you don't think theese satellites stations don't exist in space.
 

RaceRunner

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you can't see the curvature of the earth because its extremely huge, the only way to see it, is to view it from space.

Which for some reason millions of satellites orbiting in space is a myth but yet the company I work for relays informatioñ from over 100 satellites orbiting earth in line with its spin.

That's so anyone of our trucks all over the world has tracking Gps plus global communication all over the word, plus the ability to transmit video data via a satellite in space.

If a truck moves from one region to another in the opposite direction the earth is spinning it quickly loses its satellite that is also spinning with the natural rotation of earth's space, until it locks on to another.

But yet theese sattelites are so clever you fail to recognises they can show earth's true image.

Or perhaps you don't think theese satellites stations don't exist in space.
Satellites don't exist.
 

RaceRunner

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really and you drive trucks for a living to with a satellite locking device ?.
Please post a picture of a group at satellites in space (Don't Post a CGI); It should be really easy because NASA claims there are over 3,000 satellites in space.
 

Moses_Young

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you can't see the curvature of the earth because its extremely huge, the only way to see it, is to view it from space.
This here demonstrates that Flat Earth is the observation. The burden of proof is therefore on Heliocentrists.
 
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