The Trinity...my take.
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I find oneness doctrine to be crazy. Who was Jesus praying to? The Bible clearly shows three persons in its presentation. And if the holy spirit is just dead Jesus then who appeared in the form of a dove at Jesus' baptism? The major verse of oneness doctrine is important because it is "hear oh Israel the Lord our God is one lord". But the Hebrew for God is "Gods." It's a perfect verse for the Trinity. Oneness began with Mormonism. It's a dirty heresy.
No, my doctrine is in agreement with the creeds for the most part.
Again, here are accusations without evidence.
Why doesn't anybody want to show their work?
People at this message board don't give evidence for their contentions...they just decry people as heretics and think that such is going to deter others from believing the truth.
However, in that you consider me to be a heretic, I am in good company with Paul the apostle (Acts 24:14 (kjv)).
Again, here are accusations without evidence.
Why doesn't anybody want to show their work?
People at this message board don't give evidence for their contentions...they just decry people as heretics and think that such is going to deter others from believing the truth.
However, in that you consider me to be a heretic, I am in good company with Paul the apostle (Acts 24:14 (kjv)).
I would suggest studying the OP for a moment. There, I show how Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are distinct from one another and yet also one Person.
Eph 3:3, How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
Eph 3:4, Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
Eph 3:3, How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
Eph 3:4, Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
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John 14:31
But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave Me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.
Well looky there. On the night of the last supper before He was arrested to be crucified for blasphemy, He said the Father gave Him commandment to do what He was about to suffer for us. The Father gave Him commandment. He was being obedient to the Father's commandments just as He prayed all through Psalm 119.
Well this thread has been worth the work even for that one verse alone not to mention all the others that were shared.
But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave Me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.
Well looky there. On the night of the last supper before He was arrested to be crucified for blasphemy, He said the Father gave Him commandment to do what He was about to suffer for us. The Father gave Him commandment. He was being obedient to the Father's commandments just as He prayed all through Psalm 119.
Well this thread has been worth the work even for that one verse alone not to mention all the others that were shared.
We as humans have a spirit. the old testament describes angels as having a spirit. it also describes animals spirits returning to the earth.
i dont claim to understand it. but if we are made in the image of God, maybe that is a clue. it says murder is wrong because we are destroying the image of God
i dont claim to understand it. but if we are made in the image of God, maybe that is a clue. it says murder is wrong because we are destroying the image of God
Since I am not posting anything unscriptural or nonsensical, you are offering accusations without evidence.
And excusing yourself because you want to work on a physical garden is a cop-out.
Which is more important, a garden in your backyard, or the garden of God?
I have gotten my understanding of the Trinity, not from books about the Trinity, but from an extensive reading of the Bible with the doctrine of the Trinity on the backburner of my thinking.
I think that your education makes you "wise and prudent"...
Therefore, I believe that Jesus was thankful to the Father for hiding the truth from you.
But He will reveal this doctrine to babes.
And excusing yourself because you want to work on a physical garden is a cop-out.
Which is more important, a garden in your backyard, or the garden of God?
I have gotten my understanding of the Trinity, not from books about the Trinity, but from an extensive reading of the Bible with the doctrine of the Trinity on the backburner of my thinking.
I think that your education makes you "wise and prudent"...
Therefore, I believe that Jesus was thankful to the Father for hiding the truth from you.
But He will reveal this doctrine to babes.
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He told Moses in Exodus 3:14
And Elohim said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and He said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
I AM which is translated from haYAH H1961 three times in the verse. He was saying His Name YAH or the Eternal 3 times in the verse. The sound of the word H1961 is haYAH which is also saying the YAH or the Eternal. YAH is the sound of Eternal and His Name. Translating it to "I AM" hides the sound of His Name YAH which He spoke to Moses.
Then in 3:15 He says
And Elohim said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, YHVH Elohim of your fathers, the Elohim of Abraham, the Elohim of Isaac, and the Elohim of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is My Name for ever, and this is My memorial unto all generations.
YHVH is YAHAVAH as explained in other threads and His Name forever as He says in this verse. YAHAVAH means Eternal Word and Eternal love. That is why knowing and using His real name is so important. It reveals Who He is and points to the Son Who is His Word.
And Elohim said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and He said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
I AM which is translated from haYAH H1961 three times in the verse. He was saying His Name YAH or the Eternal 3 times in the verse. The sound of the word H1961 is haYAH which is also saying the YAH or the Eternal. YAH is the sound of Eternal and His Name. Translating it to "I AM" hides the sound of His Name YAH which He spoke to Moses.
Then in 3:15 He says
And Elohim said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, YHVH Elohim of your fathers, the Elohim of Abraham, the Elohim of Isaac, and the Elohim of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is My Name for ever, and this is My memorial unto all generations.
YHVH is YAHAVAH as explained in other threads and His Name forever as He says in this verse. YAHAVAH means Eternal Word and Eternal love. That is why knowing and using His real name is so important. It reveals Who He is and points to the Son Who is His Word.
If what I am saying is from the Spirit of God, then to disagree with me is to not receive the things of the Spirit of God.
You have to ask yourself therefore whether what I am saying is scriptural.
I have given scripture to support my point of view; but no one has offered any scripture yet, in 254 posts, to contradict it.
You have to ask yourself therefore whether what I am saying is scriptural.
I have given scripture to support my point of view; but no one has offered any scripture yet, in 254 posts, to contradict it.