If you die before properly calling on the name of the Lord, do you go to heaven or hell (see Romans 10:13)?
water baptism in Jesus' Name.
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I will only say that Peter was not being disobedient to Matthew 28:19 when he baptized in Jesus' Name in Acts 2:38.
Done this
Romans 10:8-13
8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach): 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. 13 For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Also been baptised in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.
So I am saved?
Did you call on the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth; understanding that He is the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost (Colossians 2:9 (kjv))?
Then you are saved.
A little bit of water won't hurt you, either.
We all know the Baptism parts of Mark Chapter 16 and Matthew 28 were added later, according to Jerome, Church Fathers, in their claim the original Copy of Matthew was written in Hebrew, Jerome even translated it into one of his Series of Writing's. No mention of Baptism at all.
Jesus did Not command to be Water Baptized.
This is Jerome's translation of Matthew in Hebrew.
There's several big differences.
Here is Matthew 28, notice Verse 19 and 20. This is how Jerome's claims Matthew ended the Hebrew Version.
Here is our Greek Version:
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”
We also have hand written Testimony of Jerome, who had access to the entire Collection of Materials, who claimed he personally has read it several times and this is what he said about the other Greek Versions.
Jerome (374-420 A.D.) claim to have seen the Hebrew gospel of Matthew, he said he had translated it and on several occasions he quoted from it (On Famous Men 2 & 3).
A much earlier writer, Papias, who was a disciple of John the apostle, stated that Matthew recorded the sayings of Jesus in Hebrew and everyone translated them as best he could (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History III, 39, 16)
Big Difference in the Translation of the Hebrew here: Might be why Papias said they did their best hahahahahahaha
19 GO
20 and (teach) them to carry out all the things which I have commanded you Forever
and
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”
So you won't answer my post with questions?
Why not?
And yes Peter had the Holy Spirit in him.
Jesus said before being crucified that he must go back to heaven so the Holy Spirt must come.
I think that water baptism, in the sense of identifying with Jesus in His death, burial, and resurrection, can indeed be salvational; in that it is a confession of Jesus Christ before men (Matthew 10:32).
Then he was not being disobedient in Acts 2:38. See Acts 5:32.
But you said that he was disobedient;
and thus, you are contradicting yourself.
I don't like the practice of taking anything out of God's word (see Revelation 22:18-19).We all know the Baptism parts of Mark Chapter 16 and Matthew 28 were added later, according to Jerome, Church Fathers, in their claim the original Copy of Matthew was written in Hebrew, Jerome even translated it into one of his Series of Writing's. No mention of Baptism at all.
Jesus did Not command to be Water Baptized.
This is Jerome's translation of Matthew in Hebrew.
There's several big differences.
Here is Matthew 28, notice Verse 19 and 20. This is how Jerome's claims Matthew ended the Hebrew Version.
Here is our Greek Version:
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”
We also have hand written Testimony of Jerome, who had access to the entire Collection of Materials, who claimed he personally has read it several times and this is what he said about the other Greek Versions.
Jerome (374-420 A.D.) claim to have seen the Hebrew gospel of Matthew, he said he had translated it and on several occasions he quoted from it (On Famous Men 2 & 3).
A much earlier writer, Papias, who was a disciple of John the apostle, stated that Matthew recorded the sayings of Jesus in Hebrew and everyone translated them as best he could (Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History III, 39, 16)
Big Difference in the Translation of the Hebrew here: Might be why Papias said they did their best hahahahahahaha
19 GO
20 and (teach) them to carry out all the things which I have commanded you Forever
and
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”
Could one say that he was being disobedient when he did not baptise the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit?
Since the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost is "Jesus Christ" of course he was not being disobedient.
Therefore being baptised in the name of Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit is ok for those who have done and believe the following?
Romans 10:8-11
8 But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith which we preach): 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.”
I have already answered it (post #155).
https://christianchat.com/threads/water-baptism-in-jesus-name.211048/post-5081513