Do you think transgenders go to heaven?

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hornetguy

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heartwashed said:
As concerning the minister's voice at that message board, the effect is the same with banning as if they had been killed.
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Good grief.... drama much? Being banned from a board is that devastating?
We count on moderators to be just, and to enforce the rules of the forum.
If someone is banned, they somehow did not follow the rules.
If someone is banned "unjustly", then the moderator/board is not worth worrying about.
Find somewhere else to "preach"......

Truth be told, most forums don't want "preachers"..... they want participating members, to hold discussions.
 
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hornetguy said:
Find somewhere else to "preach"......

Truth be told, most forums don't want "preachers"..... they want participating members, to hold discussions.
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If that is the case, then they do not want salvation; either for themselves or others.

For it is written,

1Co 1:21, For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

Those who do not want salvation for others do not have the love of God in them.

How then can they be defined as Christian (see Galatians 3:14, Romans 5:5)?

Because I desire the salvation of others, I will preach here for as long as I am given the opportunity.

And if or when someone robs me of that opportunity, they will be held accountable by God.
 
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heartwashed said:
Yes indeed, Jesus Himself, and John the Baptist, were also zealous; and this spelled for them certain doom as concerning this temporal world. Concerning eternity, another story.

Jesus says,

Rev 3:19, As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
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Yeah, but they weren’t megalomaniacs.
 
hornetguy

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heartwashed said:
If that is the case, then they do not want salvation; either for themselves or others.
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Oh, good grief.... you are not Moses coming down from the mountain top to save us.
heartwashed said:
Because I desire the salvation of others, I will preach here for as long as I am given the opportunity.
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Again, forums are generally NOT for "preaching"
Create your own website, and have at it.... or, as you suggested, get out on the street. If you are concerned that you might be pushed into the "mental health system", perhaps there is something wrong with your presentation. I've seen street preachers all over the place, and as long as they obey laws, they are left alone.
heartwashed said:
And if or when someone robs me of that opportunity, they will be held accountable by God.
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This just smacks of a self-righteous, persecution martyr complex.
What's next, self flagellation?

Just take a deep breath, and relax, and join in on conversations.... you don't need to "preach" here..... unless someone asks your opinion on some specific topic...
 
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Grace10 said:
Do you think transgenders go to heaven? I hear mixed opinions on the topic. Are people with those feelings supposed to stay the way they are and remain celibate for their lives?
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Leviticus commanded Israel not to wear clothes of the opposite sex, but in the case of trans people, the same rule applies as for the rest of us--believe and repent, which means trust in Jesus as your way to eternal life and show evidence of turning your life around. Only God can possibly judge who is and who is not going to heaven. Celibacy would be an evidence of salvation in their lives, the same as gay people.
 
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Grace10 said:
Do you think transgenders go to heaven? I hear mixed opinions on the topic. Are people with those feelings supposed to stay the way they are and remain celibate for their lives?
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God looks at the heart, motivations. It is in His hands therefore. If a person is truly in pain mentally and spiritually and decides upon actions that they feel justified and compelled about, who can say? Are transgender people harming anyone else?

Not one of us ought to feel fit to judge another as we ourselves are full of sin.
 
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Grace10 said:
Do you think transgenders go to heaven? I hear mixed opinions on the topic. Are people with those feelings supposed to stay the way they are and remain celibate for their lives?
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transgender will not go to heaven no more than homosexuals , drunkards, adulterers , and fornicators.

Those who repent and call on the name of the Lord and turn FROM their sin to be saved. You can not live your life in a lie of transgender after you have come to the saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit JOB is to lead you into all TRUTH.

Those who say they are still transgender, gay or fornicator, or a drunkard and try to attach the context of being a Christian to those sins are not saved. And are suggesting the Holy Spirit has in some way approved of their desire to continue in sin and not Convict them of the sin is Blasphemy. Those who teach such things are also failing those who are bound by sexual sin.
 
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I have no doubt
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9Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders 10nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

So do they really?
 
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CS1 said:
transgender will not go to heaven no more than homosexuals , drunkards, adulterers , and fornicators.

Those who repent and call on the name of the Lord and turn FROM their sin to be saved. You can not live your life in a lie of transgender after you have come to the saving knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ. The Holy Spirit JOB is to lead you into all TRUTH.

Those who say they are still transgender, gay or fornicator, or a drunkard and try to attach the context of being a Christian to those sins are not saved. And are suggesting the Holy Spirit has in some way approved of their desire to continue in sin and not Convict them of the sin is Blasphemy. Those who teach such things are also failing those who are bound by sexual sin.
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Just an fyi we do not turn from our sin to be saved.
 
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shittim said:
He saves us FROM our sin, not IN our sin.
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Yes so why did you disagree.


We can turn from sin all we want it does not give salvation, salvation is a free gift.

If we promise to turn from sin, then it is I give something in order to receive, that is not Grace nor is it the Gospel.

If faith is the hand that accepts salvation through Christ Jesus, then repentance is the hand that rejects salvation by any other means which includes the action of trying to turn from sin.
 
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heartwashed said:
Yes we do (2 Corinthians 7:10).
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Yeah it does not state turn from sin, it states Godly sorrow produces repentance
There is not quid pro quo in salvation, I give up my sin in order to receive a free gift is wrong.
 
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HeIsHere said:
Just an fyi we do not turn from our sin to be saved.
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yes, we do as The word "Repent" means just that stop and go the other direction.
 
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hornetguy said:
This just smacks of a self-righteous, persecution martyr complex.
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Personally, I believe that the Lord intended for His servants to have such a "complex".

Otherwise, why would He have spoken the verses that He did on the subject?
 
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