Does the Bible support the idea of a spinning ball earth flying through space, or is that a Satanic, Masonic lie?
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It doesn't matter. The truth stands by itself, whether or not people believe it. Given that many of those I engage with on this subject are paid shills, I don't expect to convice these. Moreso, it is those who read the shill responses, and determine that the shill defence arguments in support of the unscriptural heliocentric belief are weaker than they realised when they were indoctrinated with them in school.
This is not an analogous argument. God makes clear He created Adam as an adult, and there was no deception - He created a fully mature, functioning, adult man.
In contrast, to believe that God created photons of light millions of light years away on their way to Earth requires either that the stars do not exist (e.g. God only created some 10,000 or 20,000 years worth of photons), or that stars' behaviour as it truly occurs will never be observed on Earth (at least not for millions of years). This is the same type of argument as claiming that God created fossils in place within the ground, rather than that He created the animals and they were subsequently fossilised in some catastrophic event (e.g. the Great Flood). The latter belief is consistent with scripture, the former little more than a just-so story, with neither scriptural nor scientific support.
How do you explain the stars falling from the sky in Revelation? According to your theory (consistently applied), the photons of light for this were already set in place some 7,000 - 10,000 years ago, when God declared the creation "very good".
Ken Ham is inconsistent of his treatment of evolutionism and heliocentricity. He is correct in his dealing with the theory of evolution. He should deal with the heliocentric theory in the same way, and give scripture precedence.
This is not an analogous argument. God makes clear He created Adam as an adult, and there was no deception - He created a fully mature, functioning, adult man.
In contrast, to believe that God created photons of light millions of light years away on their way to Earth requires either that the stars do not exist (e.g. God only created some 10,000 or 20,000 years worth of photons), or that stars' behaviour as it truly occurs will never be observed on Earth (at least not for millions of years). This is the same type of argument as claiming that God created fossils in place within the ground, rather than that He created the animals and they were subsequently fossilised in some catastrophic event (e.g. the Great Flood). The latter belief is consistent with scripture, the former little more than a just-so story, with neither scriptural nor scientific support.
How do you explain the stars falling from the sky in Revelation? According to your theory (consistently applied), the photons of light for this were already set in place some 7,000 - 10,000 years ago, when God declared the creation "very good".
Ken Ham is inconsistent of his treatment of evolutionism and heliocentricity. He is correct in his dealing with the theory of evolution. He should deal with the heliocentric theory in the same way, and give scripture precedence.
Here's my question: why do people get so upset at the thought that the earth might be flat? Is it because then if it's true they think they'll be looked at as a looney if they believe it? I don't consider myself a flat earther cuz I haven't been convinced yet, but I will say I trust NASA about as much as I trust hospitals. Or less.
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It seems like we are on a globe and not a flat Earth.
Because of the way we notice it going from night to day, and day to night.
On a flat Earth with the Sun always being above the Earth we would not observe it going from night to day, and day to night, like we would on a globe.
With a flat Earth we would see the light chasing the dark, and the dark chasing the light, because the sun is always above the Earth's surface.
When it is light in our area we would see the dark coming but it would still be light in our area and then the dark would pass through our area, and we would see the light going away from us until it is all dark, and the same when it is dark in our area and the light is coming.
But we do not observe it that way but when the Sun goes down it is dark, and when it comes up it is light.
We do not see the light chasing the dark, and the dark chasing the light, like we would on a flat Earth.
Psa 113:3 From the rising of the sun unto the going down of the same the LORD'S name is to be praised.
On a flat Earth with the sun always being above the Earth's surface how is the sun going down and rising.
But on a globe Earth is will go down and then it is dark, and rise and then it is light.
Rev 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
Some people will say that the 4 corners prove that the Earth is flat but a flat circle does not have 4 corners.
Also what about gravity for on a flat Earth people would be pulled to the center of the Earth, but on a globe no matter where you stand there is an equal amount of Earth under you so gravity goes downward keeping us in place.
I do not believe all that NASA says but it appears the Earth is round taking the way we see it going from dark to light, and light to dark, and gravity, but the light to dark, and dark to light, is a better argument as some might say there is no gravity.
Because of the way we notice it going from night to day, and day to night.
On a flat Earth with the Sun always being above the Earth we would not observe it going from night to day, and day to night, like we would on a globe.
With a flat Earth we would see the light chasing the dark, and the dark chasing the light, because the sun is always above the Earth's surface.
When it is light in our area we would see the dark coming but it would still be light in our area and then the dark would pass through our area, and we would see the light going away from us until it is all dark, and the same when it is dark in our area and the light is coming.
But we do not observe it that way but when the Sun goes down it is dark, and when it comes up it is light.
We do not see the light chasing the dark, and the dark chasing the light, like we would on a flat Earth.
Psa 113:3 From the rising of the sun unto the going down of the same the LORD'S name is to be praised.
On a flat Earth with the sun always being above the Earth's surface how is the sun going down and rising.
But on a globe Earth is will go down and then it is dark, and rise and then it is light.
Rev 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
Some people will say that the 4 corners prove that the Earth is flat but a flat circle does not have 4 corners.
Also what about gravity for on a flat Earth people would be pulled to the center of the Earth, but on a globe no matter where you stand there is an equal amount of Earth under you so gravity goes downward keeping us in place.
I do not believe all that NASA says but it appears the Earth is round taking the way we see it going from dark to light, and light to dark, and gravity, but the light to dark, and dark to light, is a better argument as some might say there is no gravity.
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lol you haven't corrected anything or proven nothing, because the sun is also orbiting a black hole.
The earth spins around and orbits the sun, and the sun orbits a black hole.
Because God stopped the sun from moving has no evidence the earth is flat.
Lol I've heard it all on this forum, the best one is if the earth was spinning somebody would be upside down, haha that made me chuckle. I thought no wonder those Americans are crazy, it must be the reason they have to have everything bigger than everybody else and develop a huge ego, because there blood is rushing to there heads from being upside down. 😁
The earth spins around and orbits the sun, and the sun orbits a black hole.
Because God stopped the sun from moving has no evidence the earth is flat.
Lol I've heard it all on this forum, the best one is if the earth was spinning somebody would be upside down, haha that made me chuckle. I thought no wonder those Americans are crazy, it must be the reason they have to have everything bigger than everybody else and develop a huge ego, because there blood is rushing to there heads from being upside down. 😁
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