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HealthAndHappiness

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I gave my life to the Lord at age 14, way after I first identified as a girl which was as a toddler.
But the Bible says if we dont repent we'll go to Hell. I repent every night and ask Him to forgive me.
Jeanette,

I see that there's a much more important challenge that has yet to be answered.
I was asked once by someone who cared, "If you were to die today, are you 100% sure that you would go to heaven. I wasn't sure either.
That's because we are all sinners. The Bible tells us in Romans 6:23

" For the wages of sin is death..."

We deserve death and hell.
You gave your life to the Lord at 14.
Unfortunately, someone mistakenly told you that is how someone is saved. I have heard that preached too many times as well in churches I've attended.
There is a clear way to be forgiven now and forever..
I will post the following link(s) which will have the exact details from God's Word about this issue.
The good news is that the rest of that verse says,

"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Here it is in a short video message and one more to make sure it's clear.

The GOOD News

The Good News, part 2

You are probably ready for God's grace and want that instead of judgement.
There is your answer.

John 5:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
 

Lynx

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You should join the discussions on those forums…gets boring just debating the same old people lol.
Oh cripes no. The superciliousness directly conflicts with my preferred low stress lifestyle.

I know for a fact I ain't no better than nobody else, and I know for a fact they ain't no better than me neither. So I can't take the supercilious people seriously and I can't be supercilious enough to keep up with them. My heart just ain't in it.
 
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Jeanette,

I see that there's a much more important challenge that has yet to be answered.
I was asked once by someone who cared, "If you were to die today, are you 100% sure that you would go to heaven. I wasn't sure either.
That's because we are all sinners. The Bible tells us in Romans 6:23

" For the wages of sin is death..."

We deserve death and hell.
You gave your life to the Lord at 14.
Unfortunately, someone mistakenly told you that is how someone is saved. I have heard that preached too many times as well in churches I've attended.
There is a clear way to be forgiven now and forever..
I will post the following link(s) which will have the exact details from God's Word about this issue.
The good news is that the rest of that verse says,

"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Here it is in a short video message and one more to make sure it's clear.

The GOOD News

The Good News, part 2

You are probably ready for God's grace and want that instead of judgement.
There is your answer.

John 5:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
I’m not judging, but I guess I am. I want them to know that I don’t agree with what they are doing, and in the end they are just going against God. Is it really worth it? If you aren’t happy with your body and or sex, then pray to God for the answers, never decide you can do this on your own. He didn’t create us to challenge his decisions, he created us to believe and live good, healthy lives. Humans destroyed his wishes, therefore he will destroy them.
 
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Has anyone seen the latest film/movie…Left behind? And what did you think of its interpretation of the Bible?
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I’m not judging, but I guess I am. I want them to know that I don’t agree with what they are doing, and in the end they are just going against God. Is it really worth it? If you aren’t happy with your body and or sex, then pray to God for the answers, never decide you can do this on your own. He didn’t create us to challenge his decisions, he created us to believe and live good, healthy lives. Humans destroyed his wishes, therefore he will destroy them.
Sure, I understand. We judge a number of things each week. The Bible is clear about judging righteous judgement. He who is spiritual judges all things to paraphrase one epistle to the Corinthians.
Rather than going with the theme of what is obvious sin, I was approaching it from the point of, "Since we are condemned by our sins against God, now how to we get delivered from the judgement of hell?" The video links have the details.

Since someone with the questions posed by the OP might be very sincere, I think he perhaps might benefit from a clear gospel presentation.
 
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Sure, I understand. We judge a number of things each week. The Bible is clear about judging righteous judgement. He who is spiritual judges all things to paraphrase one epistle to the Corinthians.
Rather than going with the theme of what is obvious sin, I was approaching it from the point of, "Since we are condemned by our sins against God, now how to we get delivered from the judgement of hell?" The video links have the details.

Since someone with the questions posed by the OP might be very sincere, I think he perhaps might benefit from a clear gospel presentation.
Can I tell you something?
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I know Jesus loves me, I know what he did for me to be able to breathe. I worship him, I do! But why does there have to be a Tribulation? Why must Christians suffer when we believe?
Good question, but it's way past my bedtime. If you remind me, tomorrow I will try to answer that at my lunch break. Just put @ in front of my name or respond to my post one more time so I get the alert. Have a good one.
 

Cameron143

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I know Jesus loves me, I know what he did for me to be able to breathe. I worship him, I do! But why does there have to be a Tribulation? Why must Christians suffer when we believe?
Are you referring to the Tribulation or just the trials and troubles of life?
 

HealthAndHappiness

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To be honest I am not certain but probably so, I have little contact since she lives 300 miles away in Ontario.. this happened 2 years ago...

Cheers.
I was curious because I have been hearing the same about the guidance counselors of other schools too. It seems that the public schools have a system of incentives to carry out that diabolical plan. They are getting paid to do this from somewhere. It's probably the same grants they get for pushing the drugs/ amphetamines and the crooked doctors who Rx them.
 

Lanolin

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I heard from a work colleague that her 19 year old son left home and announced he was trans

Its so hard being a parent....the parents are both christians. They have two boys well now one wants to be known as a 'she' and they dont agree with it of course but what can they do.

Its something they will have to figure out, she said as a parent she never stops worrying about her children. Everyone has advice and an opinion of course but imagine how the mum feels.

Apparantly her son never felt like he fit in being male and prefers to be female. I dont know if its the macho masculine culture that frowns on males showing any kind of sensitivity or softness or what. But she says her husband writes poetry but also fixes houses and she never thought he was feminine. anyway they are having a hard time.

shes treating this body dysphoria as a mental illness but then who is always happy with the body they were given? Im sure most people arent always happy with it but learned to accept that was what they had been given....and love and cherish their own bodies...as temples of the holy spirit
 

HealthAndHappiness

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I heard from a work colleague that her 19 year old son left home and announced he was trans

Its so hard being a parent....the parents are both christians. They have two boys well now one wants to be known as a 'she' and they dont agree with it of course but what can they do.

Its something they will have to figure out, she said as a parent she never stops worrying about her children. Everyone has advice and an opinion of course but imagine how the mum feels.

Apparantly her son never felt like he fit in being male and prefers to be female. I dont know if its the macho masculine culture that frowns on males showing any kind of sensitivity or softness or what. But she says her husband writes poetry but also fixes houses and she never thought he was feminine. anyway they are having a hard time.

shes treating this body dysphoria as a mental illness but then who is always happy with the body they were given? Im sure most people arent always happy with it but learned to accept that was what they had been given....and love and cherish their own bodies...as temples of the holy spirit
That doesn't happen by accident.
Any normal boy is disgusted by the mention of or sight of that. Sometimes they will laugh at it like the stupid comedy skits three male teachers would put on at some pep rallies. The teachers dressed in drag. Inappropriate, but was excused by the principal as a comedy routine.
The first form of football played on the playgrounds starting in 4-6 grade was called "Smear the Queer," if that tells women what little boys think. They don't know a thing about the gay agenda or have interest in that. They still associate the term with something negative. Any boy that is identifying as a girl was directed by some unnatural influences.
 

Lanolin

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Am not sure what football or smear the queer has anything to do with anything.

Girls can play football too. And they do.
 

HealthAndHappiness

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#36
I know Jesus loves me, I know what he did for me to be able to breathe. I worship him, I do! But why does there have to be a Tribulation? Why must Christians suffer when we believe?
That's great!
The main thing I would focus on is how to be certain to be delivered out of suffering after death. Once that is assured, the earthly suffering pales in comparison.

Here are those links that cover the subject.
After listening to the short descriptions twice, please feel free to ask if you have any questions. Happy to help.

Good News !

Great News. ☕🙂👍
 

Lanolin

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#37
My first thought is that because she has two boys and they have no sisters one wants to be the 'girl' of the family. But then it also happens in large families of both genders so not sure what thats about, or whether it is the parents having anything to do with it or just peer pressure.

A lot of IVF (test tube) babies these days are being born or is it made, and we seeing a lot more trans. Babies are exposed to a lot more chemicals right from before birth, which interferes with hormones.
 

Lanolin

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its very expenisve to transition I heard, although in some cultures its just accepted practice...eg faafine, ladyboys, and theres those lesbian working mothers in China that do all the mens jobs. In the US, places like San Francisco are meccas for gays, just like Sodom and Gomorrah were.

unnatural as it is, its not uncommon. Places like Las Vegas has drag shows every night and those are never shut down cos they bring in money.
 

HeIsHere

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I know Jesus loves me, I know what he did for me to be able to breathe. I worship him, I do! But why does there have to be a Tribulation? Why must Christians suffer when we believe?
Exactly, the tribulation has already occurred.