Angels can procreate

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Magenta

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JohnB said:
Is having sex something evil to you?
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According to the revealed written Word of God, sex is to be between married couples only, and
there will be no marriage in heaven. It seems you have an extremely difficult time wrapping
your head around that concept, even though it has been pointed out to you umpteen times.
You have also not responded to some of the problems sex causes outside of marriage. Here is a list again:

Adultery
Fornication
Homosexuality
Incest
Paedophilia
Polygamy
Pornography
Prostitution
Rape
Transsexualism
 
JohnB

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Magenta said:
According to the revealed written Word of God, sex is to be between married couples only, and
there will be no marriage in heaven. It seems you have an extremely difficult time wrapping
your head around that concept, even though it has been pointed out to you umpteen times.
You have also not responded to some of the problems sex causes outside of marriage. Here is a list again:

Adultery
Fornication
Homosexuality
Incest
Paedophilia
Polygamy
Pornography
Prostitution
Rape
Transsexualism
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You miss the point, people do have sex and children outside of marriage. There is no marriage in heaven.
 
Magenta

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JohnB said:
You miss the point, people do have sex and children outside of marriage. There is no marriage in heaven.
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Talk about missing the point: You really ought to acknowledge that sex outside of marriage is a sin.

You advocate for sin in heaven. You have way more than missed the point.
 
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Magenta said:
Talk about missing the point: You really ought to acknowledge that sex outside of marriage is a sin.

You advocate for sin in heaven. You have way more than missed the point.
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So if I understand correctly, there is no marriage cause he knows this is clearly stated in the Bible, but there is sex, but that is okay cause the angels can eat so therefore they can have sex so therefore we can too!

I really do not know why I came back to this thread.
Your point is well made, but apparently in heaven none of those consequences will exist because it will no longer be a sin.
I feel like if Jesus stated there is no marriage he also meant by default there is no sex.
 
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JohnB said:
Why are Christians so against sex in heaven? Is having sex something evil to you?
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Yes, but more importantly it is evil to God, those who have sex outside of marriage are fornicators.

Eph 5:3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people.

1Thes 4:3 It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; 4 that each of you should learn to control your own body] in a way that is holy and honorable, 5 not in passionate lust like the pagans, who do not know God; 6 and that in this matter no one should wrong or take advantage of a brother or sister. The Lord will punish all those who commit such sins, as we told you and warned you before. 7 For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life. 8 Therefore, anyone who rejects this instruction does not reject a human being but God, the very God who gives you his Holy Spirit.
 
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JohnB said:
So since when to "true believers" and non-believers make giants? why are so many Christians against sex in heaven? You make sex sound like something evil.
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lol The bible does not say a believer crossed with a non believer makes a giant, it seems you are taking your view of them being hybrids and mistakenly transferring it to others views.
 
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Clayman said:
lol The bible does not say a believer crossed with a non believer makes a giant, it seems you
are taking your view of them being hybrids and mistakenly transferring it to others views.
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He is blind to his folly.
 
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Magenta said:
"Giants" exist to this day. Are angels still having sex with women, then?
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Noah and his family were not Giants but still carried the DNA and we see Giants after the Flood, Goliath, All of Exodus, Deuteronomy the Hebrews are Fighting Giants. Clearly, DNA continued.
 
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Evmur said:
God never anywhere addresses angels as sons.
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Bob-Carabbio said:
Job 1:6
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This is my take on the occurrences of the phrase sons of God

Genesis 6:2 is speaking of men
Job 1:6 is speaking of men
Job 2:1 is speaking of men
Job 38:7 Appears to be angels which to me is confusing.
Matt 5:9 is speaking of men
Luke 20:36 not only men but contrasted to angels
Gal 3:6 stipulates the requirement of faith in Jesus
Romans 8:19 is speaking of men

ALl the references to me are speaking of men as sons of God except for Job 38:7 which says "When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?"

The chapter of Job 38 speaks of our lack of knowledge but speaks of Gods knowledge it speaks of both the creation and of the last days.

So Job 38:7 seems similar to and reminds me of Rom 8:19 "For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God."

To me if every occurrence of the phrase Sons of God is speaking of men who are believers, then Job 38:7 would be a one off exception which seems out of place, because the phrase in the bible speaks of men every other time, and because it does its not necessarily a rule it does every time, it could mean angels and it appears to be.

But I dont know I think there is something I dont yet see or understand about Job 38 so Im just going to keep an open mind about it, if someone one day comes up with a logical reason why they think its indeed Men being referenced here I am going to look at what they say with an open mind, under the microscope of scripture for sure. And it already makes sense to me they will probably be right :p
 
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Clayman said:
lol The bible does not say a believer crossed with a non believer makes a giant, it seems you are taking your view of them being hybrids and mistakenly transferring it to others views.
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I'm not the one saying one was the line of Seth and the other were the line of Cain. That is what some believe.
 
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Clayman said:
Yes, but more importantly it is evil to God, those who have sex outside of marriage are fornicators.

Eph 5:3 But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people.

1Thes 4:3 It is God’s will that you should be sanctified: that you should avoid sexual immorality; 4 that each of you should learn to control your own body] in a way that is holy and honorable, 5 not in passionate lust like the pagans, who do not know God; 6 and that in this matter no one should wrong or take advantage of a brother or sister. The Lord will punish all those who commit such sins, as we told you and warned you before. 7 For God did not call us to be impure, but to live a holy life. 8 Therefore, anyone who rejects this instruction does not reject a human being but God, the very God who gives you his Holy Spirit.
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But there is no marriage in heaven, so sex isn't a sin in heaven.
 
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Magenta said:
Talk about missing the point: You really ought to acknowledge that sex outside of marriage is a sin.

You advocate for sin in heaven. You have way more than missed the point.
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There is no marriage in heaven, so sex cannot be a sin in heaven.
 
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JohnB said:
I'm not the one saying one was the line of Seth and the other were the line of Cain. That is what some believe.
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This weird feeling of deja vu is washing over me isnt that weird, The whole reason we are told there were giants on the earth in those days and also afterwards is so we know that they were already in existence before the sons of Gods took wives.

Gen 6:4 There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men.

When you read that verse for some strange reason your understanding is presented like this.

Gen 6:4 there were no giants on the earth in those days, but when the sons of God came in to the daughters of men then afterwards there were giants.

Which is the exact opposite of how God presents it, in my humble opinion.
 
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JohnB said:
But there is no marriage in heaven, so sex isn't a sin in heaven.
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This weird feeling of deja vu is washing over me isnt that weird, Gods character is not going to be one thing one day and another another day. He is the same yesterday, today and forever.
 
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JohnB said:
I'm not the one saying one was the line of Seth and the other were the line of Cain. That is what some believe.
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It's neither, Adam, continued having children after Seth for another 800 years. All the Children were from the Lineage of Adam. Divine Beings came to Women from the Lineage of Adam.

Seth's Lineage was saved by the Ark, even though, Noah's Lineage ended up at Tower of Babel where God had to Intervene Again and ends up creating the Nations.

8 When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when He separated the children of men, He set the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God.
9 For the portion of HaShem is His people, Jacob the lot of His inheritance.
 
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Clayman said:
This weird feeling of deja vu is washing over me isnt that weird, Gods character is not going to be one thing one day and another another day. He is the same yesterday, today and forever.
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He has not changed. Sex outside of marriage is a sin, BUT there is no marriage in heaven. Jesus was clear about that.
 
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The_Watchers_2017 said:
It's neither, Adam, continued having children after Seth for another 800 years. All the Children were from the Lineage of Adam. Divine Beings came to Women from the Lineage of Adam.

Seth's Lineage was saved by the Ark, even though, Noah's Lineage ended up at Tower of Babel where God had to Intervene Again and ends up creating the Nations.

8 When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when He separated the children of men, He set the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God.
9 For the portion of HaShem is His people, Jacob the lot of His inheritance.
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There is no mention in Genesis 6 of the line of Seth being anymore holy than the line of Cain.
 
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JohnB said:
There is no mention in Genesis 6 of the line of Seth being anymore holy than the line of Cain.
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You are Absolutely Correct, and EVERYONE knows this!
It's a Doctrine that this is Seth's Line. You must understand here. We are using actual Biblical Scripture from the purest Source Possible, and they are using Man Made Tradition. And as even the Bible points out, man made and other types of man involved traditions are the hardest thing to break away from. Which is why it is in the Bible in the first place. So, KNOW Who you are debating and WHY they believe as they do.

Best example.

The Absolute TRUTH has No Chance against [[my Grandpa believed that way and gosh darn it, ima gonna too]][[my denomination just believes this way, it is one our staple unholy Doctrines]]
 
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