Do you think transgenders go to heaven?

[Jeanette]

I'd like to know exactly what studies you're referring to. I'm curious to know how they determine if a brain is male or female. The brain is a very flexible organ; what started out "male" may end up "female" through conditioning. Sounds like junk science.

Right here: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-there-something-unique-about-the-transgender-brain/
https://brainworldmagazine.com/what-neuroscience-tells-us-about-transgender-people/
https://consultqd.clevelandclinic.o...idence-and-implications-for-practice-podcast/
https://psychcentral.com/news/2018/03/16/structural-brain-differences-for-transgender-people#1
https://neurosciencenews.com/transgender-brain-9234/
https://news.usc.edu/158899/transgender-research-usc-brain-gender-identity/
https://www.the-scientist.com/featu...ifferent-from-those-of-cisgender-people-30027
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35329908/
https://globalnews.ca/news/4223342/transgender-brain-scan-research/

Be it as it is, neither I or you know whether these doctors are right or not. But the fact their studies indicate it means there is a possibility they are right. Also, you have to remember the Bible was written at a time when people didnt even know Cancer existed. Back then, there wasnt a lot of scientifical knowledge like we do now. It could be that Deuteronomy hated people who dressed in a different way because he didnt know about transgenderism and he put that in the book, THINKING God had made him write it.

The Bible is inspired by God's sayings, but that does not mean that everything in it is what God said. The Bible was written by humans, and humans err.

If you think this came from God :https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus 25:44-46&version=NIV
then I dont know the God you believe in.

Sorry but thats the truth.

God bless you!

 

[Jeanette]

No you are not.

That is a lie from Satan.

God didn’t make a mistake and put a woman in a man’s body.

It’s our fallen sinful nature. and Satan that puts that idea in your head.

He put that idea in my head when I was 3?

 

[Jeanette]

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Praying you repent.

I repent every night.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

He put that idea in my head when I was 3?

God did not put that idea in your head.
Also if you repent then why do you keep identifying as trans, and use a womans name?

 

[DJT_47]

You're asking us to do something that's wrong. You're asking us to judge. It not for us to judge others.

Judge not, that ye be not judged. (Matt. 7:1)​

Whether you realize it or not, we make judgements every day, all the time. It's when you set yourself above someone else as though you're better than they are, and not realizing your own issues, is where the problem is.

 

[Underwhosewings]

Colossians 3:5-6 KJV
Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness,
inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
[6] For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:

 

[ResidentAlien]

Right here: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-there-something-unique-about-the-transgender-brain/
https://brainworldmagazine.com/what-neuroscience-tells-us-about-transgender-people/
https://consultqd.clevelandclinic.o...idence-and-implications-for-practice-podcast/
https://psychcentral.com/news/2018/03/16/structural-brain-differences-for-transgender-people#1
https://neurosciencenews.com/transgender-brain-9234/
https://news.usc.edu/158899/transgender-research-usc-brain-gender-identity/
https://www.the-scientist.com/featu...ifferent-from-those-of-cisgender-people-30027
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35329908/
https://globalnews.ca/news/4223342/transgender-brain-scan-research/

Be it as it is, neither I or you know whether these doctors are right or not. But the fact their studies indicate it means there is a possibility they are right. Also, you have to remember the Bible was written at a time when people didnt even know Cancer existed. Back then, there wasnt a lot of scientifical knowledge like we do now. It could be that Deuteronomy hated people who dressed in a different way because he didnt know about transgenderism and he put that in the book, THINKING God had made him write it.

The Bible is inspired by God's sayings, but that does not mean that everything in it is what God said. The Bible was written by humans, and humans err.

If you think this came from God :https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus 25:44-46&version=NIV
then I dont know the God you believe in.

Sorry but thats the truth.

God bless you!

From the very first article you posted: "Of course, behavior and experience shape brain anatomy, so it is impossible to say if these subtle differences are inborn." That is exactly what I said before.

I was right in my assessment: Troll. You clearly are only here to push your agenda and want to gain acceptance without repenting of your sin. It's not enough to say you repent then get up the next day and go right back to your old behavior. Repentance means changing the direction your going.

 

[Jeanette]

No you are not.

That is a lie from Satan.

God didn’t make a mistake and put a woman in a man’s body.

It’s our fallen sinful nature. and Satan that puts that idea in your head.

God hasnt made people who are born without a brain, people with a heart in the right side, people with mental disabilities, people with 6 fingers in one hand, he hasnt made people with two sexual organs, he hasnt made people who were conjoined, or people who were born with AIDS or heart disease or people who were born blind, deaf, mute, etc etc...ah?

We are not mistakes, but we are born like that. We are born the way God wants us to be.

I know what Deutoromy says but you have to remember, the Bible was written in a way that many of their sayings benefited the people of Israel, such as the saying that says "Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly. " and in those times, Israel had a law against cross dressing.

I am a Christian, and I believe He loves me. I did commit one of the sins in the ten commandments which was sex before marriage but I repented from that. Transgenderism isnt even among the ten commandments.

Also, I began behaving like this aged 3. Aged five I had a vision one time when I was playing at my house, a man came to me and he had carpenter tools, he bent down and said to me :"I am God, and I will be accompanying you for the rest of your life!" he then disappeared. Halleluyah!

He is my friend and He loves me no matter what. And He knows because every night I pray for forgiveness that if I did something that upset Him I am sorry.

 

[PennEd]

I repent every night.

The flesh, the world, and the devil assault us from birth.

So is it more likely that your belief you are a woman in a man’s body came from those three things,
Or that God made a mistake and put a woman inside a man’s body?

 

[Jeanette]

From the very first article you posted: "Of course, behavior and experience shape brain anatomy, so it is impossible to say if these subtle differences are inborn." This is exactly what I said before.

I was right in my assessment: Troll. You clearly are only here to push your agenda and want to gain acceptance without repenting of your sin. Goodbye.

No you are wrong Im not a troll and you are judging me, You think transgenderism is a sin but you are sinning as well!

I came here with honest doubts and questions. I came here because I have doubts. I want to be loved, and I want to go to Heaven.

Yet you call me a troll. No wonder some people get turned away from Christianity. People like you who judge others right away turn them away.

Next time, instead of being such judgmental, you should instead be calm and react with love and compassion, the way Jesus would. He did so when the prostitute came to Him and when the thief asked him for forgiveness in the cross.

Also as I said maybe the studies are right maybe they are wrong. But the fact there are studies being carried out about this means that there is a possibility that we have the wrong brain in the right body or the wrong body with the right brain.

I dont need your acceptance. The only acceptance I need is from God.

 

[Jeanette]

The flesh, the world, and the devil assault us from birth.

So is it more likely that your belief you are a woman in a man’s body came from those three things,
Or that God made a mistake and put a woman inside a man’s body?

We are not mistakes. God makes us how he needs us to be. That includes disabled people, people with mental disabilities and why not transgender people as well.

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

Do you think transgenders go to heaven?

Depends on whether they're Born Again, or not. Just because they're insane, doesn't prevent them from becoming saved, and maturing in Christ takes time.

 

[Jeanette]

God did not put that idea in your head.
Also if you repent then why do you keep identifying as trans, and use a womans name?

Because that part is not going to go away. Not soon anyways.

Its not like a switch that you can turn off. I pray and ask Him to forgive me but when I walk I see myself as a woman., When I talk I see myself as a woman.

I prayed and prayed and prayed since I was 17 for my bisexuality to go away. It didnt until recently. I am 50 now. If God wants my transgenderism to go away He will make it go away. But it hasnt.

People who judge LGBT people dont have any idea how much we suffer. We dont want to be this. But we are. Only God can change us if it is in His will. But the Bible does say those behaviors are anti-God. You see that is why I pray every night. Because I am a Christian who wants to go to Heaven., I gave my life to Him at age 14. Before I knew that I was bisexual.

Im worried about my soul. But if I identified as what I do not identify myself as, I would be lying to myself and to the world. Until God changes that part in me I am a transgender person, female in spirit, named Jeanette. In fact, I think God may be using me for me to teach people not to hate us so much as my Pastor''s wife told me, I can use my own experience as a testimony to many people.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Also as I said maybe the studies are right maybe they are wrong. But the fact there are studies being carried out about this means that there is a possibility that we have the wrong brain in the right body or the wrong body with the right brain.

Today all such "studies" are suspect. Indeed over the past three years the medical and scientific establishments have shown the world that truth, reality, and facts do not matter any more. The only thing that matters is the Leftist Agenda and its propaganda, and now the LGBTQ agenda and its propaganda. And therefore all hoaxes are justified. There no such thing as "wrong brain in the right body" or vice versa.

 

[Underwhosewings]

Jude 1:23 KJV
And others save with fear,
pulling them out of the fire;
hating even the garment
spotted by the flesh.

 

[Jeanette]

Today all such "studies" are suspect. Indeed over the past three years the medical and scientific establishments have shown the world that truth, reality, and facts do not matter any more. The only thing that matters is the Leftist Agenda and its propaganda, and now the LGBTQ agenda and its propaganda. And therefore all hoaxes are justified. There no such thing as "wrong brain in the right body" or vice versa.

Are yoyu a dr?

 

[Underwhosewings]

1 Corinthians 2:14-16 KJV
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
[15] But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
[16] For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

I'm not really sure why the Christian community seems to cherry pick sexual sinful behavior as a worse sin than any other.

It's called "Theology". HUmans have a natural desire to "Rank" things.

 

[Eli1]

Hello @Jeanette .
First thing I would tell you if you’re sincere, would be to get off the internet and talk to someone in real life about this.
‘The second thing i’d like to tell you is: Have you tried looking for any churches which don’t harp on salvation all day long?
I realize this is difficult on American Protestant churches and Catholic Churches but have you tried an East Orthodox one?

This is a complex topic and without knowing your situation I would say that the point of this existence is to love God and be like Christ.
Christ forgave a prostitute and a thief on the cross but in the end He told her “Go and sin no more”.
So if you‘re worried about Salvation, it means that something inside you is telling you that there is something wrong.
So, go and find a church and sin no more.

 

[Locoponydirtman]

From the very first article you posted: "Of course, behavior and experience shape brain anatomy, so it is impossible to say if these subtle differences are inborn." That is exactly what I said before.

I was right in my assessment: Troll. You clearly are only here to push your agenda and want to gain acceptance without repenting of your sin. It's not enough to say you repent then get up the next day and go right back to your old behavior. Repentance means changing the direction your going.

You hit the nail on the head.