Bread used for Communion

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Flannery

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I've communed in churches that used unleavened whet bread specifically made by the denomination, and churches that used cut up cubes of Wonder Bread. They were both equally spiritual congregations of believers, but one was older and more established than the other.
 

Webers.Home

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Jesus' last supper was a Passover dinner. (Matt 26:17-20, Mark 14:12-17,
and Luke 22:7-15)

The 12th chapter of Exodus requires unleavened bread for that particular
meal so I think we may safely assume it was unleavened bread that he
broke that night and instructed his apostles to remember him by. I don't
know about "unworthy" but surely leavened bread would be improper.
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Artios1

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It's not in the bread ...it's in the believing heart.
 

Dino246

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Jesus didn't say, "I am the unleavened bread of life".

The gospel writers and Paul didn't mention that the bread at the last supper was unleavened. I'm quite certain that if God were concerned about the matter, He would have specified.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Jesus didn't say, "I am the unleavened bread of life".

The gospel writers and Paul didn't mention that the bread at the last supper was unleavened. I'm quite certain that if God were concerned about the matter, He would have specified.
The bread of the Lord's supper is the passover bread, which is unleavened bread. Through out the OT whenever bread is part of the offering it is always unleavened.
 

Flannery

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Jesus was the Passover sacrifice, first foreshadowed by the lamb slaughtered in Egypt the night before the plague of death upon the firstborn, and later instituted both as a memorial of the Exodus and a foreshadowing again of the cross at the Siani encampment when God handed the law to Moses and dictated to him the plans for the Sanctuary.

Jesus warned against "the leaven of the Pharisees", which is just abstruse Sophistic teaching around the law, so he was "unleavened" in that sense, meaning that "The Word of God is Plain". Unleavened bread is more traditional in ceremonial symbology.
 

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Jesus was the Passover sacrifice, first foreshadowed by the lamb slaughtered in Egypt the night before the plague of death upon the firstborn, and later instituted both as a memorial of the Exodus and a foreshadowing again of the cross at the Siani encampment when God handed the law to Moses and dictated to him the plans for the Sanctuary.
Jesus' sacrificial death for the sins of the world was first foreshadowed in Genesis when
God made skins of animals to cover the sin of Adam and Eve. Jesus was prophesied then,
too. Jesus' sacrificial death was again foreshadowed by the ram caught in the thicket that
Abraham sacrificed as an offering to God when Isaac's life was spared.
Genesis 22:2

He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah,
and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.”


13 Abraham looked up and there in a thicket he saw a ram caught by its horns. He went over and
took the ram and sacrificed it as a burnt offering instead of his son. 14 So Abraham called that place
The Lord Will Provide. And to this day it is said, “On the mountain of the Lord it will be provided.”
 

JaumeJ

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Are we not warned to beware of the leaven of the Pharisees? Unleaveaned bread. I make my own.. no yeast.
 

Magenta

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Are we not warned to beware of the leaven of the Pharisees? Unleaveaned bread. I make my own.. no yeast.
The leaven of the Pharisees is their hypocrisy, pride, and self-righteousness, not yeast.

Matthew 16:11-12 "How do you not understand that I was not telling you about bread? But beware
of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.”
Then they understood that He was not telling them
to beware of the leaven used in bread, but of the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees.


:)
 

Flannery

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Jesus' sacrificial death for the sins of the world was first foreshadowed in Genesis when
God made skins of animals to cover the sin of Adam and Eve. Jesus was prophesied then,
too. Jesus' sacrificial death was again foreshadowed by the ram caught in the thicket that
Abraham sacrificed as an offering to God when Isaac's life was spared.
Genesis 22:2

He said, “Take your son, your only son Isaac, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah,
and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I shall tell you.”


13 Abraham looked up and there in a thicket he saw a ram caught by its horns. He went over and
took the ram and sacrificed it as a burnt offering instead of his son. 14 So Abraham called that place
The Lord Will Provide. And to this day it is said, “On the mountain of the Lord it will be provided.”
Nice rundown of the literary foreshadowing. Passover, however, the Last Supper ceremony that he presided over for his disciples, was definitely a remembrance of Israel's escape from the Hamites. What you're saying matters, but in terms of Jesus' nation, the liberation was from the descendants of Ham, and their eastern allies in Babylon who had overrun Jerusalem during the time of the Civil War between Judea and Israel.
 

JaumeJ

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Yeas t isa form of leavening for bread. So is baking powder and sometimes baking soda when used with a catalyst.

Jesus Yeshua is the Bread from heaven. Unleavened bread is salt, flour, water and oil, olive oil is what I use for it is the Biblicval oil I find.

PS In Spanish all three of the mentioned leavenings are forms of what is called "levadura" which are raising agents. Levitating agents as it were.
 

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And he took bread, and when he had given thanks he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.”

IMO if we use leven bread we say the Lord was sinful and why I no longer do
 

Blain

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Do you consider using leven bread for communion unworthy????
whether one considers it to be unworthy or not is beside the point. the bread is an aspecy of communion but the imprtanxe and validation of the bread is all in the event itselt.

To understand the bread we have to first understand the act of communion itself.

It is traditionally done because that is what that church does but it is more tradition than anything else more like a passive thing we do without fully understanding what we are actually doing.

Comminion is bnot really a well understood thing, the heart of the believer is vital and out of all the things he could have used to liken to his body and the act of communion involves bread for his body and the wine for his blood.

But what is it about these two thing in particular that are used in communion? What does the bible say these two thyings represent and symbolize what was Jesus trying to say with this act of eating his flesh and blood
 

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I think unleavened bread is okay; but, if possible, unleavened would be ideal. Christ is our Passover lamb and the Passover bread is unleavened. It just seems more appropriate.

"Therefore purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new lump, since you truly are unleavened. For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us." 1 Corinthians 5:7
 

Sipsey

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Matthew 15:10-11
[10] Then Jesus called to the crowd to come and hear. "Listen," he said, "and try to understand. [11] It's not what goes into your mouth that defiles you; you are defiled by the words that come out of your mouth."
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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I've communed in churches that used unleavened whet bread specifically made by the denomination, and churches that used cut up cubes of Wonder Bread. They were both equally spiritual congregations of believers, but one was older and more established than the other.

Wow, don't see why that comment deserved a red x...
 

ThereRoseaLamb

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Matthew 15:10-11
[10] Then Jesus called to the crowd to come and hear. "Listen," he said, "and try to understand. [11] It's not what goes into your mouth that defiles you; you are defiled by the words that come out of your mouth."
Now there's a well placed verse if I ever saw one!
 

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Do you consider using leven bread for communion unworthy????
Instead of actual bread think of the bread as representing the people of God

“Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭5:6-8‬ ‭

Do you see how what type of actual bread they ate is meaningless ? If not try this part to convince you of that

“And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him; because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?

(This is the leaven we can’t partake of )

And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man. For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: all these evil things come from within, and defile the man.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭7:18-23‬ ‭
Do you see how what food we eat has absolutely no bearing on anything ?

“Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him; because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?”

the Old Testament has physical figures of everything like the unleavened bread it’s just a figure for the spiritual covenant of God it’s representing this

therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness;

but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.”


There is no food that can make a person unclean or defiled before God , it is e malice and wickedness and lust and greed and pride that makes us unclean that’s the leaven we need to get rid of

the ot law is about bread , the truth is about righteousness and wickedness and the body of Christ the living bread from heaven