Ukraine the bad guy?

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Fundaamental

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So Stephen was acting too eh?
Because he wanted a war with Rome and a civil war among the Jews?
noooooo the she was copying part 😱.

Somebody is always copying somebody in war history repeats it's self.
There is no Good guy bad guy in war anymore only bloodshed, well at least not between the world leaders.
Maybe the soldiers,
 

Fundaamental

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How NATO the UK America get away with starting wars.

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So called truth from nato


The European Union is also providing non-lethal and lethal arms through its European Peace Facility (EPF). This is the first time the bloc has, in its history, approved the supply of lethal weapons to a third country.
 

JohnDB

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noooooo the she was copying part 😱.

Somebody is always copying somebody in war history repeats it's self.
There is no Good guy bad guy in war anymore only bloodshed, well at least not between the world leaders.
Maybe the soldiers,
Maybe you need to study Stephan....

She emulated his behavior and attitude. Almost a mirror image of his actions. Not a verbatim copying.
How can you be so brilliant in some areas of scripture but be so thick on this one?

Maybe because you think you don't need to learn anything or can't learn anything from someone else and your mind is made up?

But what if you are WRONG?
 

Fundaamental

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Maybe you need to study Stephan....

She emulated his behavior and attitude. Almost a mirror image of his actions. Not a verbatim copying.
How can you be so brilliant in some areas of scripture but be so thick on this one?

Maybe because you think you don't need to learn anything or can't learn anything from someone else and your mind is made up?

But what if you are WRONG?
many wrongs make a right, one more wrong issued just now
Putin has just publicly declared that the world is now at a turning point because the west has gone to war with Russia.

You have to question the world is at a turning point as a joke and that holds more substance to the view hold by many not just me.
 

Fundaamental

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How NATO the UK America get away with starting wars.

Investigate UK government arms sales to Saudi Arabia and Qatar used by ISIS
ISIS & designated terror groups in Iraq & Syria have received weapons from Saudi Arabia & Qatar, both of whom have arms agreements with the UK government. This petition demands an independent investigation into the arms agreements and to what extent the UK government has indirectly weaponised ISIS
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So called truth from nato


The European Union is also providing non-lethal and lethal arms through its European Peace Facility (EPF). This is the first time the bloc has, in its history, approved the supply of lethal weapons to a third country.
I forgot to add Russia to the equation. Sorry 😱

I have direct official links from the government websites for theese claims if anyone is interested
 

Fundaamental

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I have a feeling and a premonition.
That Putin is going to withdraw his troops with a dead line soon for people of Ukraine to leave befor he drops a nuke if no deal is made, of course I could be wrong.
The troops will withdraw first with no reason why, everyone will be wondering what's going on, then Russia will issue an ultimatum.
 

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So here we have Douglas MacGregor, with a curriculum vitae as long as your arm, with multiple degrees and a PhD in international relations, retired Army Colonel, top adviser to the WH, speaking his mind (and the truth IMO) as regards the factual history of the Russia/Ukraine situation. His grasp of relevant background history, and the pertinent dynamics that caused this tragic war is quite unimpeachable.

Yet, it stands dramatically at odds with the typical Western narrative, and that of @JohnDB (the "kill all Russian orcs" and "destroy Russia and its culture" geopolitical stratagems).

Please watch the video and learn the facts:

 

JohnDB

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Wagner Group in Bakhmut is apparently getting encircled themselves as they continue to try to take Bakhmut.....huge losses in the Southwest and the Russian pincer of forces there have been decimated. (Over 500 casualties yesterday and they are fleeing)
Wagner and Russian forces are not going to know which direction to aim.

I feel so bad about the loss of life that is all Putin's fault. Dying in war is not glamorous at all.
You retreat until there's nowhere left to retreat to....you fight back using your weapons until you have nothing left to fight with and then the enemy walks up to you and shoots you at point blank range. Completely without glory your decaying body lays in a muddy trench stepped on and over and possibly splashed all over social media for the world to see.
This is entirely caused by Russia. Their claims about fears of NATO are unwarranted and ridiculous especially in light of their desire to steal resources (Mining, agriculture and ports) and the number of nations already on their borders.
 

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I'm beginning to think that the only war Russia has even the smallest gains is fighting on discussion boards....but then again they don't use logic so they usually lose there too.
 

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I'm beginning to think that the only war Russia has even the smallest gains is fighting on discussion boards....but then again they don't use logic so they usually lose there too.
Smallest gains = 30% of the landmass? And the choicest cuts? Getouttahere.
 

Fundaamental

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So here we have Douglas MacGregor, with a curriculum vitae as long as your arm, with multiple degrees and a PhD in international relations, retired Army Colonel, top adviser to the WH, speaking his mind (and the truth IMO) as regards the factual history of the Russia/Ukraine situation. His grasp of relevant background history, and the pertinent dynamics that caused this tragic war is quite unimpeachable.

Yet, it stands dramatically at odds with the typical Western narrative, and that of @JohnDB (the "kill all Russian orcs" and "destroy Russia and its culture" geopolitical stratagems).

Please watch the video and learn the facts:

I watched this but do you not think only a mad man would attack Russia ?

Who in the right mind attacks the might of Russia.

Or who would even dare to.
Honestly I really can't see this reason being legitimate, it looks more like propaganda from both Russia and Ukraine.
I'm not saying none of the circumstances are real,
But what I am saying is it was planned all along by both sides just another war game.
 

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So here we have Douglas MacGregor, with a curriculum vitae as long as your arm, with multiple degrees and a PhD in international relations, retired Army Colonel, top adviser to the WH, speaking his mind (and the truth IMO) as regards the factual history of the Russia/Ukraine situation. His grasp of relevant background history, and the pertinent dynamics that caused this tragic war is quite unimpeachable.

Yet, it stands dramatically at odds with the typical Western narrative, and that of @JohnDB (the "kill all Russian orcs" and "destroy Russia and its culture" geopolitical stratagems).

Please watch the video and learn the facts:

There are no facts in times of war. When the war is over the victorious side will tell you the “facts”.