Angels posing as men.

[ChristsChild]

Well the Bible refutes that notion altogether. So take some time to study this subject.

I don't think it does.

Matthew 22:30

That masculine pronouns are sometimes applied to angels doesn't mean angels have sex organs.
God is referred to in masculine pronouns yet he is not male, he is not a man, he is Holy Spirit.

The age when scripture was written was the Patriarchal age. Which is why male pronouns are predominant in the literature.

However, a spirit, even the Holy Spirit, does not actually have a penis and scrotum.

 

[ChristsChild]

seraphim or cherubim. it seems angels are always male. there's no female angel reference in the Bible. angels appear unawares to people.

Read this. It might help.
https://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/13437-seraphim

 

[Lynx]

However, a spirit, even the Holy Spirit, does not actually have a penis and scrotum.

I can picture God facepalming right now. Not because you are wrong, although you might be, but because the conversation has come to this point.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

I don't think it does.

Matthew 22:30

That masculine pronouns are sometimes applied to angels doesn't mean angels have sex organs.
God is referred to in masculine pronouns yet he is not male, he is not a man, he is Holy Spirit.

The age when scripture was written was the Patriarchal age. Which is why male pronouns are predominant in the literature.

However, a spirit....

We don't know anything about the Lord other than what He reveals from His Holy Word.
According to His Word He made man in His image. He made woman from man. She was different in specific ways. That is what we know. Jesus created man in His image. Anything concerning specifics about God are to be gained from what has been revealed. We know that Jesus was and is God. That did not diminish with His incarnation.

We also know that God is a Spirit.

We are also told "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
I John 5:7

The teachings from Genesis to Revelation are that God exists as 3 distinct persons, yet one God.

The second point I think is important to distinguish is that Christians have always believed that the Bible is truly inspired by God. Since He is described with masculine pronouns and is also quoted using masculine pronouns, He is masculine. He wanted us to know that as Creator, He created Adam in His own image. That's the beginning. We covered the incarnation already. When He returns, He will bring a judgement upon the earth that no person will dare call Him woman. He is fully God and fully man. Jesus is the ultimate man.

Here's a blessing about Him and anyone can be with Him some day.
How to Go To Heaven

 

[Adstar]

I don't think it does.

Matthew 22:30

That masculine pronouns are sometimes applied to angels doesn't mean angels have sex organs.
God is referred to in masculine pronouns yet he is not male, he is not a man, he is Holy Spirit.

The age when scripture was written was the Patriarchal age. Which is why male pronouns are predominant in the literature.

However, a spirit, even the Holy Spirit, does not actually have a penis and scrotum.

Read Genisis and you will know angels are male..

(Genesis 6:1-4) "And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, {2} That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. {3} And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. {4} There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."

What was the punishment God enacted upon those angels?

(Jude 1:5) {6} And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."

So the Angels are definitely Male..

 

[DanielJosephBoucher]

Ok, two people stated that Tobit is not inspired, Magenta and PennEd. Who told you that? What are the reasons why you believe that?

 

[Mem]

Ok, two people stated that Tobit is not inspired, Magenta and PennEd. Who told you that? What are the reasons why you believe that?

Tobit claims that the smoke of a fish's heart drives away demons. Tobias 6: 7 Then Tobias asked the angel, and said to him: I beseech thee, brother Azarias, tell me what remedies are these things good for, which thou has bid me keep of the fish? 8 And the angel, answering, said to him: if thou put a little piece of its heart upon coals, the smoke thereof driveth away all kind of devils, either from man or from woman, so that they come no more to them."

 

[DanielJosephBoucher]

I went looking for my cat, Amber, one day when I was out in my yard with her and she had disappeared. All of a sudden, there was this squirrel in a tree acting all erratic and panicky. It was not acting like a normal squirrel. Then, it jumped off the tree and belly-flopped on the grass. It disappeared as it sunk into the ground. I couldn't find it anymore. I thought it would have hurt itself from the fall, but it just vanished. Then, my cat, Amber, showed up shortly afterward. I figured the squirrel was just my demon cat. She turned into a squirrel just to mess around with me. She did it another time beforehand, too. I miss that cat. She was adorable. So, how many lives do cats have, really?

 

[DanielJosephBoucher]

There might be some demons posting on this very forum as Christians. Wouldn't surprise me any.

I am aware of that. Thanks for the reminder.

 

[ChristsChild]

I can picture God facepalming right now. Not because you are wrong, although you might be, but because the conversation has come to this point.

Maybe it's a human thing. We subjectify what we don't understand so that we are satisfied thinking we now know something.

The human reproductive pattern is the reverse in the opposite gender.
The penis and scrotum in males, the vagina and ovaries in female.

Made in the image and likeness of God. I think that goes far deeper than flesh and blood frail mortal appearance.

The Bible tells us God is not a man that he should lie.
I think we are created of and from God's will, power, passion, and plan.

The sons of God verses are something else altogether. Angels are spirits. Just my view.

 

[DanielJosephBoucher]

So anyways, I've learned a lot in recent years about the demon angels who pose or appear as men. I can identify a lot of them. It's interesting how many lives a single angel can live. I see lot of the same ones as different people, but there are many I don't know the identity of. How could I know them all? It takes time to figure them out. For example, Donald Trump is the same angel as actor Owen Wilson. I'm pretty sure it's Cavalier, an arctic fox. Aaron Rogers and Paul Ryan are the same angel, Overwhelming, a blue somewhat iridescent rainbow scaled dragon (I've seen his dragon a couple of times - I know dragons are extinct except for the Komodos, but somehow demons can bring dead creatures back, how else do you explain house pet dogs and cats?) Anyways, there's so much to talk about with demon angels, but who really is willing to when it all sounds so crazy?

 

[Magenta]

So anyways, I've learned a lot in recent years about the demon angels who pose or appear as men.

There is not one Scripture verse attesting to the fact that angels can take the form of a man aside from enacting the will of God.

 

[DanielJosephBoucher]

There is not one Scripture verse attesting to the fact that angels can take the form of a man aside from enacting the will of God.

Well, it was God's will to give angels amazing powers and abilities. Then the angels do with their powers and abilities as they see fit. In the Scriptures, there are the two examples of good angels in the form of men that I gave at the start of this thread, one of which you claim is not inspired. I read the whole Bible and I did not find any examples of demon angels in the form of men. It's just something I've encountered in life. It's believable.

 

[Magenta]

Then the angels do with their powers and abilities as they see fit.

You mean as God commands.

In the Scriptures, there are the two examples of good angels in the form of men
that I gave at the start of this thread, one of which you claim is not inspired.

Tobit is not inspired. Therefore, it is not Scripture.

 

[Lynx]

Tobit claims that the smoke of a fish's heart drives away demons. Tobias 6: 7 Then Tobias asked the angel, and said to him: I beseech thee, brother Azarias, tell me what remedies are these things good for, which thou has bid me keep of the fish? 8 And the angel, answering, said to him: if thou put a little piece of its heart upon coals, the smoke thereof driveth away all kind of devils, either from man or from woman, so that they come no more to them."

Sounds to me like voodoo.

Does NOT sound to me even close to anything else God tells us to do. Like, this is in a completely different theology.

 

[Lynx]

So anyways, I've learned a lot in recent years about the demon angels who pose or appear as men. I can identify a lot of them. It's interesting how many lives a single angel can live. I see lot of the same ones as different people, but there are many I don't know the identity of. How could I know them all? It takes time to figure them out. For example, Donald Trump is the same angel as actor Owen Wilson. I'm pretty sure it's Cavalier, an arctic fox. Aaron Rogers and Paul Ryan are the same angel, Overwhelming, a blue somewhat iridescent rainbow scaled dragon (I've seen his dragon a couple of times - I know dragons are extinct except for the Komodos, but somehow demons can bring dead creatures back, how else do you explain house pet dogs and cats?) Anyways, there's so much to talk about with demon angels, but who really is willing to when it all sounds so crazy?

If you see them in your cat, I hesitate to consider you an authority on the subject.

 

[Karlon]

Ok, two people stated that Tobit is not inspired, Magenta and PennEd. Who told you that? What are the reasons why you believe that?

read & learn 2nd Peter 1:20,21 & 2nd Timothy 3:16,17 & you will learn that ONLY scriptures inspired by the Holy Spirit, that is AUTHORED by the Holy Spirit, did God allow in the Bible. since man is imperfect, God would never allow men's authored writings to be in the Bible.

 

[Lynx]

read & learn 2nd Peter 1:20,21 & 2nd Timothy 3:16,17 & you will learn that ONLY scriptures inspired by the Holy Spirit, that is AUTHORED by the Holy Spirit, did God allow in the Bible. since man is imperfect, God would never allow men's authored writings to be in the Bible.

Depends whether you are Catholic or protestant. Tobit is in the Catholic bible.

Shoot, it's even recognized by my phone's speech to text just now.

However there is definitely a reason Tobit was excluded from the King James.

 

[DanielJosephBoucher]

You mean as God commands.


Tobit is not inspired. Therefore, it is not Scripture.

The good angels do do as God commands, but they still have their own freedom and abilities to determine what they do themselves. The bad angels, however, don't do as God commands, so they just make their own way themselves. Again, it depends on what kind of angel it is.

Why do you believe that Tobit is not inspired? Why would it be in the Bible if it's not inspired? Do you think people are wrong to include it in the Bible?

 

[DanielJosephBoucher]

If you see them in your cat, I hesitate to consider you an authority on the subject.

No, demons weren't in my cat, my cat was a demon. Cats are demons. If you knew about angels and demons, you would know that some animals are demons and others are angels. I know this because of what I have witnessed. A witness can be considered an authority. Just look at courtrooms; witnesses are called to testify to what they have witnessed, which serve as authorities on certain matters.