TIMING OF CREATION

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Magenta

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Well,...the Lord said it was very good, but He didn't say it was perfect so, "it" wasn't finished yet.
However, He declared, "It is finished!" on the cross.
God pronounced creation good at every stage until Eve was created, and then? It was very good .:D
 

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Well,...the Lord said it was very good, but He didn't say it was perfect so, "it" wasn't finished yet.
However, He declared, "It is finished!" on the cross.
Mark 10:18

And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.
 

Magenta

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Psalm 8:1-4 :)
 

Gideon300

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During the creation process the Lord said it was good or very good which means to me God was pleased with what He made! Perfect and Holy as He designed everything. Now another way of stating this is creation was without sin when he spoke. So, what in the Bible represents no sin for 7 days? I found that the feast of Unleavened Bread represents this seven day time of creation. A spring time event! Leven represents sin.

Now on the sixth day Man was created and when he sinned Adam and Eve covered themselves with leaves for their sin and shame. Notice that is was not a covering for sin in the lord's eyes. The Lord took animal skins which represents the beginning of a blood sacrifice till the Lord made the final blood sacrifice on Calvary 4000 years later on Passover. The fruit that they ate had to be the grape if this is part of the Passover story.

So what I am suggesting is this 6th day of creation represented the original Passover and the reason why Yeshua was crucified on the 6th day of the week and on the revolution of the year.. Now this is only the beginning of the understnding I have but want your input.
Watchman Nee has a fascinating explantion as to how the 6 days of creation symbolise salvation. It was in a book called "The Mystery of Creation". The first thing that a person needs to be saved is light. Jesus is the Light of the world, the entrance of God's word brings light and:

"For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” made His light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ." 2 Corinthians 4:6

You can get the book for free in .pdf format. It presents the case for pre-Adamic creation. I found it convincing and it answers many of the objections raised by the scientific community.
 

Omegatime

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Could the possible reason why the scriptures concerning generational line of Adam such in Genesis 5 having no months or days listed on their births or deaths be that that were all born and died the same day---Passover
 

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Could the possible reason why the scriptures concerning generational line of Adam such in Genesis 5 having no months or days listed on their births or deaths be that that were all born and died the same day---Passover
That would be really S-T-R-E-T-C-H-I-N-G it.
 

Omegatime

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That would be really S-T-R-E-T-C-H-I-N-G it.
Yes, I knew that when I posted it but is what I found after four decades of research. Hard questions get some hard answers sometimes. I found all 77 generations from Adam to Christ were born and died the same day--Passover. So in essence Christ also was born and died on the day of Passover.
 

Pilgrimshope

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That's a great connection between the bread and the wine I've always just read over without giving it any thought.
yeah I didn’t either for many years brother just happened to do a study years back of melchezidek and noticed it
 

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The first stop in justification is the time Israel spent in Egypt.

Exodus 12:41 41 And at the end of four hundred and thirty years, on that very day, all the hosts of the Lord went out from the land of Egypt. (This scripture says because they left on Passover, they also entered on Passover 430 years to the very day.)

All english versions use the Masorectic texts which were developed around 900 AD and used by the orthodox jews to this day. But guess what, these same orthodox jews do not believe they were in Egypt for 430 years. Most count time beginning when Abraham was 75 years old at the offering of the pieces. The time in Egypt are the only scriptures concerning time in dispute!

The surprise from the Septuagint text.

And the sojourning of the children of Israel, while they sojourned in the land of Egypt and the land of Chanaan, four hundred and thirty years.

Did you notice it says Cannan and Egypt for 430 years not just in Egypt for 430 years. The Septuagint LXX text is far older than the Masorectic texts we use today. The scrolls Jesus read from!

Second stop is Abraham and the covenant between God and himself. A covenant is also a m,an's will which takes place upon his death just like when the Lord gave us a New Covenant on Passover which took place after his death.

Galations 3--5 To give a human example, brethren: no one annuls even a man’s will, or adds to it, once it has been ratified. 16 Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many; but, referring to one, “And to your offspring,” which is Christ. 17 This is what I mean: the law, which came four hundred and thirty years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. 18 For if the inheritance is by the law, it is no longer by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.

Abraham was born in year 1948 from creation 1948
Lived 175 years (died year 21 add 175
equals 2123
Passover exodus date 2553 Equals 315 years in Egypt and 115 years in Cannan
 

Magenta

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You can get the book (Watchman Nee's "The Mystery of Creation".) for free in .pdf format. It presents the case for pre-
Adamic creation. I found it convincing and it answers many of the objections raised by the scientific community.
How could Eve be the mother of all living if there were humans who predated A&E?

Were they long gone by the time A&E were created?
.:unsure:
 

Gideon300

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How could Eve be the mother of all living if there were humans who predated A&E?

Were they long gone by the time A&E were created? .:unsure:
It is not clear what kind of beings predated Adam and Eve. It seems that Satan ruled the earth until he fell. I believe that Satan was the light of the world until he rebelled against God. So God created the sun and moon to give physical light and Lord Jesus came to be spiritual light.

I believe that Noah's flood was the second world wide flood, not the first. The word "was" can just as readily be translated "became" in reference to the condition of the earth. Mother of "all living" obviously does not mean all creatures. Eve was not the mother of cats and dogs. So the reference is to all humanity from herself onward. That's how I see it anyway.
 

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It is not clear what kind of beings predated Adam and Eve. It seems that Satan ruled the earth until he fell. I believe that Satan was the light of the world until he rebelled against God. So God created the sun and moon to give physical light and Lord Jesus came to be spiritual light.

I believe that Noah's flood was the second world wide flood, not the first. The word "was" can just as readily be translated "became" in reference to the condition of the earth. Mother of "all living" obviously does not mean all creatures. Eve was not the mother of cats and dogs. So the reference is to all humanity from herself onward. That's how I see it anyway.
I am surprised, mainly shocked that you believe the earth existed before and even more so in a pre-Adamic race?
 

Gideon300

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I am surprised, mainly shocked that you believe the earth existed before and even more so in a pre-Adamic race?
Why shocked? It's perfectly plausible and allowed by scripture. It addresses many issues raised by sceptics who doubt the Genesis account. That's not why I believe it to be true, however. I accepted Genesis as the literal word of God before I discovered the pre-Adamic creation theory. I suggest that you read "The Mystery of Creation" before assuming that the idea is wrong.
 

Omegatime

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Why shocked? It's perfectly plausible and allowed by scripture. It addresses many issues raised by sceptics who doubt the Genesis account. That's not why I believe it to be true, however. I accepted Genesis as the literal word of God before I discovered the pre-Adamic creation theory. I suggest that you read "The Mystery of Creation" before assuming that the idea is wrong.
The Lord I know didnt have to do things twice to get creation right
 
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And Day 6, or the numeral 6, the numerology of 6, the Number of Man, 666 Mark of Beast, Satan.

Definitely a lot of Biblical and Spiritual connection to 6 on both sides of the Battleground.
 

Magenta

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It is not clear what kind of beings predated Adam and Eve. It seems that Satan ruled the earth until he fell. I believe that Satan was the light of the world until he rebelled against God. So God created the sun and moon to give physical light and Lord Jesus came to be spiritual light.

I believe that Noah's flood was the second world wide flood, not the first. The word "was" can just as readily be translated "became" in reference to the condition of the earth. Mother of "all living" obviously does not mean all creatures. Eve was not the mother of cats and dogs. So the reference is to all humanity from herself onward. That's how I see it anyway.
Yeah, obviously I was not referring to cats and dogs and did not think you were either
with the "pre-Adamic creation." Any ways, all creation was before Adam and Eve according
to Genesis, so what do does WN mean by it? Unless nothing was different...