Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace

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rogerg

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I am not the son of Mary, visions have suggested I'm his reincarnation but I don't take that as meaningful.

I am another Christ though, intending to enact what was supposed to arise through him.
You need professional help. Which religion do you follow?
 
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If you lived by the Spirit, you would be a follower of Christ, and gladly so.
John 17:20-26 says we are to share his glory.

1 John 4:7-21 says we are to be as he was in the world.

1 Corinthians 2:12-16 and 1 Corinthians 12:12-27 further the theme.

Ephesians 3:16-19 tells us about a love that surpasses knowledge.

That reveals the fullness of God.
 
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I live what he taught, learning the texts real good doesn't make you a follower.
 

rogerg

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John 17:20-26 says we are to share his glory.

1 John 4:7-21 says we are to be as he was in the world.

1 Corinthians 2:12-16 and 1 Corinthians 12:12-27 further the theme.

Ephesians 3:16-19 tells us about a love that surpasses knowledge.

That reveals the fullness of God.
None of those verses say anything about you (or anyone else) being a Christ. They are speaking of those whom God has saved.
 

rogerg

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I live what he taught, learning the texts real good doesn't make you a follower.
To live by what He taught you need first to understand what He taught, and that only comes from being born-again.
 
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None of those verses say anything about you (or anyone else) being a Christ. They are speaking of those whom God has saved.
They say the point of Christian life is to become another Christ...

There is nothing unique about me in this regard...

I have a particular mission from the Spirit that scripture talks about...

It's still just about bringing Christ increasingly into the world.
 

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I live what he taught, learning the texts real good doesn't make you a follower.
I am curious you said that Frank means free man. Is Frank your given name or is your screen name self chosen in that it would mean free follower of wisdom. In that you seek the wisdom of the cosmos and when it is complete that the simulation, the construct will end and we all once again join to god. Being we are parts of god but that is hidden because of the constructs? Curious if these are truths that you would hold to or find them as the hidden knowledge and you just one more follower who seeks to enlighten with that truth?

What I am asking is writings such as the Corpus Hermaticum or writings that are influenced by it in your preview of readings? Curious as certain things you have written read to me as you are a seeker of the gnosis, the truth of the knowledge. Just curious as you used the words racism and nationalism as well as others that have me wondering what other writings you have read as you speak of them in a way that they are the constructs that hide the truth. Just curious of your world view and what has influenced it.
 

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I am curious you said that Frank means free man. Is Frank your given name or is your screen name self chosen in that it would mean free follower of wisdom. In that you seek the wisdom of the cosmos and when it is complete that the simulation, the construct will end and we all once again join to god. Being we are parts of god but that is hidden because of the constructs? Curious if these are truths that you would hold to or find them as the hidden knowledge and you just one more follower who seeks to enlighten with that truth?

What I am asking is writings such as the Corpus Hermaticum or writings that are influenced by it in your preview of readings? Curious as certain things you have written read to me as you are a seeker of the gnosis, the truth of the knowledge. Just curious as you used the words racism and nationalism as well as others that have me wondering what other writings you have read as you speak of them in a way that they are the constructs that hide the truth. Just curious of your world view and what has influenced it.
This might answer your question:
I have not even limited my interpretation to Christianity alone but find the same truth across every tradition I have engaged...
For many of us, Christianity is unique. Not so for Frank.
 
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I am curious you said that Frank means free man. Is Frank your given name or is your screen name self chosen in that it would mean free follower of wisdom. In that you seek the wisdom of the cosmos and when it is complete that the simulation, the construct will end and we all once again join to god. Being we are parts of god but that is hidden because of the constructs? Curious if these are truths that you would hold to or find them as the hidden knowledge and you just one more follower who seeks to enlighten with that truth?

What I am asking is writings such as the Corpus Hermaticum or writings that are influenced by it in your preview of readings? Curious as certain things you have written read to me as you are a seeker of the gnosis, the truth of the knowledge. Just curious as you used the words racism and nationalism as well as others that have me wondering what other writings you have read as you speak of them in a way that they are the constructs that hide the truth. Just curious of your world view and what has influenced it.
My birth name is Francis, which means "a frank", which were named for their freedom.

Sophia is not my birth name, yet it is my familial relation.

I do not think they are hidden at all, they are very clear but most somehow still manage to miss.

The early Church Fathers noted Hermes Trismegistus as an early example of the Christian message, and it is because he is also the embodiment of the Logos for that tradition. He is also considered a companion of Moses or his teacher even by some, I am somewhat familiar with the texts but find nothing particularly revealing in them. I think they are enjoyed because Christianity actively rejects what the Hermits never did.

Gnosis is a translation of the greek for knowledge, just as the latin is science.

For me John 17:20-26 and Ephesians 3:16-19 directly suggest such an approach, but I do not uphold other doctrines where they are contrary... like the early Church I take what is of God from everywhere to better understand him.

The worldview is picked up in places like Galatians 3:28-29 and Ephesians 2:11-22 among other places, while I also use Hebrews 7:1-28 and 2 Corinthians 3:1-18 to hammer home the latter... everything I'm saying is directly asserted in the bible in one way or another... indeed, Galatians 1:8 curses me for being contrary.
 
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This might answer your question:

For many of us, Christianity is unique. Not so for Frank.
Romans 2:12-16 says those of other traditions have the same divine love in their hearts, and this has been my experience.

Again Ephesians 2:11-22 tells us to do away with barriers so that we can be united by one Spirit, and I find that Spirit everywhere I look and yet every tradition including Christianity is largely full of those who don't understand the peak.

This is how the Spirit has guided me, always upholding Galatians 1:8 and never upholding anything contrary.
 

rogerg

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It's fun how even the Christians hate those living by grace.
Hate those living by grace? No Christian hates anyone spiritually alive by God's grace through Christ, they welcome it - they are spiritual brethren.

[Gal 2:20-21 KJV]
20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness [come] by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.