What is your gospel?

JTB · Apr 21, 2023

This (A)

Or this (B)

Matthew 5:
38You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ 39But I tell you not to resist an evil person. If someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also; 40if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well; 41and if someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

43You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor’r and ‘Hate your enemy.’ 44But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,s 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Do not even tax collectors do the same? 47And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even Gentiles do the same?

Luke 6:27-28
But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.

Luke 6:35
But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil.

Proverbs 24:17
Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles.

Proverbs 25:21-22
If your enemy is hungry, give him bread to eat, and if he is thirsty, give him water to drink, for you will heap burning coals on his head, and the Lord will reward you.

Romans 12:14
Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse.

Romans 12:17-20
Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.

Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord.

To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.”

1 Corinthians 4:12-13
When reviled, we bless; when persecuted, we endure; when slandered, we entreat.

1 Peter 3:9
Do not repay evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary, bless, for to this you were called, that you may obtain a blessing.

Proverbs 16:7
When a man’s ways please the Lord, he makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.

Proverbs 20:22
Do not say, “I will repay evil”; wait for the Lord, and he will deliver you.

Ephesians 4:32
Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.

1 Thessalonians 5:15
See that no one repays anyone evil for evil, but always seek to do good to one another and to everyone.

1 Timothy 2:1-2
I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people—for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness.

Nehemiah6 · Apr 21, 2023

Since you failed to define either A or B, kindly revise your poll.

Cameron143 · Apr 21, 2023

Neither is the gospel.

The_Watchers_2017 · Apr 21, 2023

This would have made a better "put on your Armor of God vs go as blind sheep among the wolves and lions being as wise as serpents" Poll.

Artios1 · Apr 21, 2023

Gospel just means good message.

JTB said:

But I am really not sure where the demarcation is ...maybe you could simplify it a bit.... that would be helpful... Thanks

Ted01 · Apr 21, 2023

I'm going to get my tin-foil hat... brb.

Cameron143 · Apr 21, 2023

Ted01 said:

Don't forget popcorn.

John146 · Apr 21, 2023

JTB said:

This (A)

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Or this (B)

Matthew 5:
38You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.’ 39But I tell you not to resist an evil person. If someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also; 40if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well; 41and if someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. 42Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

43You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor’r and ‘Hate your enemy.’ 44But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,s 45that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Do not even tax collectors do the same? 47And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even Gentiles do the same?

Luke 6:27-28
But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.

Luke 6:35
But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil.

Proverbs 24:17
Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles.

Proverbs 25:21-22
If your enemy is hungry, give him bread to eat, and if he is thirsty, give him water to drink, for you will heap burning coals on his head, and the Lord will reward you.

Romans 12:14
Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse.

Romans 12:17-20
Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.

Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord.

To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.”

1 Corinthians 4:12-13
When reviled, we bless; when persecuted, we endure; when slandered, we entreat.

1 Peter 3:9
Do not repay evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary, bless, for to this you were called, that you may obtain a blessing.

Proverbs 16:7
When a man’s ways please the Lord, he makes even his enemies to be at peace with him.

Proverbs 20:22
Do not say, “I will repay evil”; wait for the Lord, and he will deliver you.

Ephesians 4:32
Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.

1 Thessalonians 5:15
See that no one repays anyone evil for evil, but always seek to do good to one another and to everyone.

1 Timothy 2:1-2
I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people—for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness.

My gospel is the one Paul preached: how Christ died for our sins, was buried, and rose again the third day. See 1 Cor. 15:3-4. It is called the gospel of the grace of God.

Grace911 · Apr 21, 2023

There are several gospels. The one I believe is that the LORD/YHWH divorced the House of Israel. They were taken into Assyrian captivity and scattered all around the whole earth and seeded themselves with all nations and all races. Because YHWH cannot and will not break His own LAW (see Deuteronomy 24:1-4; Jeremiah 3 and Romans 7:1-4) God from the beginning already had the plan how to remarry (re-covenant) with the House of Israel, who has lost their identity and forgot THE LORD and have taken on traditions of men and serve other gods. That gospel is He came in the flesh to be God with us, went to the cross and died, was buried and was resurrected so that He and His divorced wife can now remarry/re-covenant. The Pharisees and Sadducee were aware of the prophetic word, but somehow they could not accept what was staring them in the face.

Here are some of the red letter words that I believe are significant, as well as some prophetic:

Mat_15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Luke 15:4 What man of you, having an hundred sheep, if he lose one of them, doth not leave the ninety and nine in the wilderness, and go after that which is lost, until he find it?
Luke 15:6 And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost.

Jeremiah 50:4 In those days, and in that time, saith the LORD, the children of Israel shall come, they and the children of Judah together, going and weeping: they shall go, and seek the LORD their God.
5 They shall ask the way to Zion with their faces thither ward, saying, Come, and let us join ourselves to the LORD in a perpetual covenant that shall not be forgotten.
6 My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace.

Jer 3:20 Surely as a wife treacherously departeth from her husband, so have ye dealt treacherously with me, O house of Israel, saith the LORD.
Jer 3:21 A voice was heard upon the high places, weeping and supplications of the children of Israel: for they have perverted their way, and they have forgotten the LORD their God.
Jer 3:22 Return, ye backsliding children, and I will heal your backslidings. Behold, we come unto thee; for thou art the LORD our God.
Jer 3:23 Truly in vain is salvation hoped for from the hills, and from the multitude of mountains: truly in the LORD our God is the salvation of Israel.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Joh 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Joh 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
Joh 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

gb9 · Apr 21, 2023

believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.

Nehemiah6 · Apr 21, 2023

Grace911 said:

There are several DESIGNATIONS for the ONE GOSPEL. There can be only one true Gospel, but depending on the context the Gospel has various designations.

1, The Gospel of the Kingdom
2. The Gospel of Jesus Christ
3. The Gospel of the Grace of God
4. The Gospel of God
5. The Gospel of His Son
6. The Gospel of Christ
7. The Gospel of Peace
8. Christ's Gospel
9. The Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ
10. The Gospel of the Blessed God
11. The Everlasting Gospel

The Gospel can be either broadly defined or narrowly defined.

HealthAndHappiness · Apr 22, 2023

JTB said:

There were a LOT of teachings that Jesus did for over three years. They were not all devoted to the subject of that which He required for entrance into heaven.
If that is what you are getting at with this subject, then you offer two options, neither of which clearly reveal His means of salvation A and B.

If you want that gospel, then you must realize that you are a condemned sinner as everyone is who trusts in their good works. Then you must quit trusting the unrighteous person in the mirror and look to Christ Jesus Who alone offers life eternal.

He said to a man trusting in his own works the following,

"And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

Grace911 · Apr 22, 2023

Nehemiah6 said:

I'm glad to see you left Galatians 2:7 out of the DESIGNATIONS

Galatians 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me (Paul), as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;

Paul is saying he is to teach the Gentiles (House of Israel/lost sheep) and Peter is to teach the Jews (House of Judah)

JTB · Apr 22, 2023

You guys never disappoint!

You always dodge the question, but you never disappoint!

Cameron143 · Apr 22, 2023

JTB said:

Perhaps if you had given a different question at the beginning. I wasn't trying to avoid your question. I didn't see an answer to it in the choices.
It's a fair point you are making. But the question doesn't lend itself to that conclusion.

Pilgrimshope · Apr 22, 2023

Cameron143 said:

The gospel according to mark

“The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

the gospel according to Matthew

“The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭1:1‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The gospel according to Luke written in Greek for the gentile audiences of Luke and Paul

“Forasmuch as many have taken in hand to set forth in order a declaration of those things which are most surely believed among us, even as they delivered them unto us, which from the beginning were eyewitnesses, and ministers of the word;(the eye witnesses of Jesus ministry )

it seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write unto thee in order, most excellent Theophilus, that thou mightest know the certainty of those things, wherein thou hast been instructed.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭1:1-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The gospel according to John

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth.

And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.”
‭‭John‬ ‭1:1, 14, 16-17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

notice one thing each book is about what the Old Testament said was going to happen the messiah would be born of a virgin , he would receive Gods spirit and God wouod declare him to be his beloved son , he would preach the gospel of salvation God would give him all of creation , he would heal and raise the dead drive out demons , he would suffer and die for mankinds sin and he would rise from the dead and ascend in the sight of men into heaven and he would sit on Gods right hand until his return in the end of the world

the gospel is simply the fulfillment of the message of Jesus cjroet the messiah God born in the flesh teaching and healing people and inviting them to live forever with him that’s the good news people who all have to die now can receive everlasting life because of the Message of Jesus cjroet who came in the flesh to save us

The gospel is written down and there are four full exhaustive accounts in the Bible only four but there are four eye witness accounts of the gospel and then there are witnesses claiming it’s true afterwards like Paul

“Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God, concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; and declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead: by whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name: among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭1:1, 3-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

at he New Testament assumes people will hear and believe the gospel before they study the epistles which help us understand the gospel

everything in the epistles is based on believing the gospel Paul

ResidentAlien · Apr 22, 2023

I had to go with (B) because, from my research, the (A) image seems to be something promoted by Christian nationalists. It's a slogan found usually on clothing and posters. It presents a skewed version of the gospel, if it can be called the gospel at all. The angel in the image has a Templar cross and shield on his chest. It's a very dark image which looks more like a demon than one of God's angels.

Blade · Apr 22, 2023

I like the pic.. other then black and gray? They are oh so beautiful and its GODS WORD not some weapon.

Nehemiah6 · Apr 22, 2023

Grace911 said:

Right. It would be the very same Gospel, but assigned to two different apostles. At the same time Peter preached to Gentiles and Paul preached to the Jews all over the Roman empire. So it was not as cut and dried as one might imagine.

"Gospel" means "Glad Tidings" or "Good News". And the Good News is that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and rose again for our justification according to the Scriptures. Which means that anyone and everyone may receive eternal life if all will obey the Gospel.

So why is it that so many Christians still do not understand justification by grace through faith and imputed righteousness?

Pilgrimshope · Apr 22, 2023

Nehemiah6 said:

right the exact same gospel established by Jesus in Israel preached tonisrsel and then gentile nations by them

“Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭1:14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And the gospel must first be published among all nations.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭13:10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭16:15-16, 19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Peter preaching the one gospel effectively to the gentiles

“Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: but in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:) that word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judæa, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached; how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him. And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree: him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly; not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.

And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead. To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
‭‭Acts‬ ‭10:34-48‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Peter is preaching what we learn about in Matthew mark Luke and John Jesus ministry his death and resurrection his annointing and miracles his place as the eternal Judge of mankind that he now is accepting of gentiles and Jew both equally ect everything we learn on the gospel accounts they hear from Peter and receive the spirit

The gentiles are told what happened in Jesus lifetime in Jerusalem and from hearing and believing they receive the Holy Ghost and then get baptized

the gospel is just what the Bible says it is the true story of Jesus life on earth in Matthew markmluke and John including what he did said and where he went after

What is your gospel?

Which is your gospel, A or B?

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