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friend, the subject is the humanity of Christ that you denied.

How can you say He was never a man seeing that He ate fish and honey in their presence?

Compare His appearing to announce the birth of Samson, when He said, He will not eat their food. and He that has ascended is He who has descended, as He told Nicodemus.

His name is Wonderful - and Moses spoke of Him saying, 'raised up from among your brothers' - Son of David. if He is Son of David how can He not be flesh and bone?
Again, out of Jesse, THE BRANCH.

all. over the law and prophets is the promise of Him becoming man: the Seed of Woman, the One Who is pierced.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

If God taketh the form of any thing, has He then become that thing?
 
Mar 22, 2023
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So we are gods, but Jesus is not? How odd.
The Word - without altering - was placed upon the table.
From whence cometh, "but Jesus is not"

What do you accomplish with the Holy Things in this moment, please?
 

PennEd

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welcome to the forum and thank you for expressing this ancient heresy openly.

For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus
(1 Timothy 2:5)


having spent several years here, believe me, it is a blessing when obvious theological error is clearly stated instead of having to be painstakingly dragged out and proven.
your bluntness saves us all a great deal of time & effort :)
Yes, but he does it with such Skakespearean flair!

Nay, he doth speaketh about yah, or adonai, or God forbid using the Name JESUS, like Peter O'Toole.
 

cv5

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Truly -
I am Jewish. Others would add 'Messianic'; for all of this house of Yehuda understand that the Messiah has indeed come. His name IS Jesus Christ of Nazareth; He IS the Son of God. Though we thought Him to be a man, son of Joseph - whose trade was carpentry, He was never a man; but rather, He did come in the form of a man - for there IS no man who is born of the Spirit of God, proceeding through the matrix of a righteous virgin.
"Kinsman Redeemer". Do yourself (and us) a big favor and look into it.
 
Mar 22, 2023
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Indeed:
And hence, all that pertains to the world with all customs must be reliquished; all things MUST be made new (in our lives).
Therefore, I hope to see you all - when we have set out and put away these things that we use and delight in at this time; for it is written:

Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.

For the modern way IS filth in the sight of God (and man) - for even we ourselves have openly admited that we destroy the earth with our 'technologies'. To manufacture and used these things (if you go and see) IS filthy and does much harm...

There was a time - in my own life - when I knew that these modern technologies ARE exceedingly harmful, and did not use them (neither petroleum based products - including plastic, nuclear, and the like). I look forward to returning to being "...as harmless as a dove" - for so we are charged to walk, by God Himself.

Blessed be the day when we forsake these things - which are OUR ways - and not God's.

Lord Jesus of Nazareth, the only begotten Son of the true and living God comes soon.
 

cv5

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From whenst thou cometh?

If for whatist did thou giveth a reply that we shouldeth retort?

Nay! That I should give such I do deny!

And what sense maketh thou to me?!

And what sense maketh I to thee?

Nought!

And so doth here endeth the lesson.
“More of your conversation would infect my brain.”

Coriolanus (Act 2, Scene 1)
 

cv5

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For the modern way IS filth in the sight of God (and man) - for even we ourselves have openly admited that we destroy the earth with our 'technologies'. To manufacture and used these things (if you go and see) IS filthy and does much harm...

There was a time - in my own life - when I knew that these modern technologies ARE exceedingly harmful, and did not use them (neither petroleum based products - including plastic, nuclear, and the like). I look forward to returning to being "...as harmless as a dove" - for so we are charged to walk, by God Himself.
I wouldn't get too bent out of shape about any of that. It will not hasten nor delay the episynagōgē one way or another.

2Th 2:1
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together G1997 unto him,
 
Mar 22, 2023
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friend, the subject is the humanity of Christ that you denied.

How can you say He was never a man seeing that He ate fish and honey in their presence?

Compare His appearing to announce the birth of Samson, when He said, He will not eat their food. and He that has ascended is He who has descended, as He told Nicodemus.

His name is Wonderful - and Moses spoke of Him saying, 'raised up from among your brothers' - Son of David. if He is Son of David how can He not be flesh and bone?
Again, out of Jesse, THE BRANCH.

all. over the law and prophets is the promise of Him becoming man: the Seed of Woman, the One Who is pierced.
How can any say that to partake of flesh and honey defines one as human or a man?
My enemies ask me constantly - Where is you God, Isrealite?

What is spoken of kings?
It is written:
The heaven for height, and the earth for depth, and the heart of kings is unsearchable.

But they ask this because they have persecuted me without just cause;
And the Lord our God IS just - and justice proceeds from Him alone.

But the prophecy is clear; and He waits until their offenses have reached their fill.
And it is THEN that He shall surely deal with them.

I do not fabricate words to gain favor in the sight of mortals.
But do as ye see fit.

The Lord Be magnified.
 

Magenta

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In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

If God taketh the form of any thing, has He then become that thing?

John 1:1 + 14a
:)
 

Magenta

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Yes, but he does it with such Skakespearean flair!

Nay, he doth speaketh about yah, or adonai, or God forbid using the Name JESUS, like Peter O'Toole.
Could be a.i./bot generated. I am seeing that, of late.
 
Mar 22, 2023
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Could be a.i./bot generated. I am seeing that, of late.
Not to worry - I will not tarry much longer; my time will be completed here.
I am charged by Adonai to accomplish specific things, to aid in the deliverence of my people - Israel (of a truth, we suffer greatly at this time).

May the Lord God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob bring to your remembrance this time shared - and His servant's name - prince yaakov of Israel at the appointed time, for your own benefit, and for His own glory.

Peace and love to all sincere.
 

posthuman

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How can any say that to partake of flesh and honey defines one as human or a man?

ask Him.

Now as they said these things, Jesus Himself stood in the midst of them, and said to them, “Peace to you.
But they were terrified and frightened, and supposed they had seen a spirit.
And He said to them, “Why are you troubled? And why do doubts arise in your hearts? Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have.
When He had said this, He showed them His hands and His feet. But while they still did not believe for joy, and marveled, He said to them, “Have you any food here?
So they gave Him a piece of a broiled fish and some honeycomb. And He took it and ate in their presence.
(Luke 24:36-43)
the scripture explicitly defines thinking He is only spirit, not a man, as "unbelief"
 

posthuman

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the deliverence of my people - Israel
The LORD your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your midst, from your brethren.
(Deuteronomy 18:15)
the Son of Man -- the man Christ Jesus
the Son of David
the Son of God
 

posthuman

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I will not tarry much longer; my time will be completed here
for my part i dare not make any such assertion.

John 3:8
The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit.


wouldst that wherever thou be next blown, thy lord would make thee varuiously ready to give answer for what thou believest - here, the clouds were seen afar but the rain yet tarries in them.

the circuit of the shrubbery is well-trodden by thine steps!
 
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The LORD your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from your midst, from your brethren.
(Deuteronomy 18:15)
the Son of Man -- the man Christ Jesus
the Son of David
the Son of God
If the suffering in Israel was found also in America, and you understood what Adonai has charged a number of us to accomplish - the responsibility of the use of His power that He Himself has bestowed, you would be closer to contextual application of all that I have shared - as though the leaders in America chose to receive from Adonai unto the preservation of the State.

The preservation of the State IS the healing of the people.

There is a very practical application for all that I share - from Adonai.

I go now (from this virtual place).

Perhaps the Lord will cause you to remember these things shared.

The Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the only begotten Son of the true and living God, comes soon; may His peace and love BE with all.
 

posthuman

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Perhaps the Lord will cause you to remember these things shared.
i will certainly remember that you were silver-tongued & quite cordial, but that when it came down to it, your theology was heretical, and you smugly didn't even bother trying to defend it.
 

Magenta

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Not to worry - I will not tarry much longer; my time will be completed here.
I am charged by Adonai to accomplish specific things, to aid in the deliverence of my people - Israel (of a truth, we suffer greatly at this time).

May the Lord God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob bring to your remembrance this time shared - and His servant's name - prince yaakov of Israel at the appointed time, for your own benefit, and for His own glory.

Peace and love to all sincere.
Thank you .:). Out of curiosity: do you speak to your friends and family in person as you do to us here? .:unsure: