Not By Works

[Yaacov]

I give you a new law. That law is, "Love each other." As I have loved you, so you also love each other. (Jesus' words in John 13:34)

Romans 13:10

His Majesty did speak regarding the very power of our thoughts and the true Spirit of the law:

Adonai:
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

And He did speak statute regarding temptation(s):
And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Indeed, He did embue with clarity regarding many things which pertain to the law and statutes of His government - before and after he died and rose from the dead. Many.

We are established as leaders - before the second death of the serpent of old AND of the new age, you and I; but we cannot govern properly without knowledge of the commandments and statutes of the Government of the King of kings (without circumcision of the heart).

HaTorah is far more interesting than the knowledge of the world (for the wisdom of the world is foolishness with God); we know that the Law of Life is true substance that does not fail (in strength and power).

The Peace and Love of our Beloved Messiah be with you in great abundance.

 

[Yaacov]

Yes Love agreed - 'new commandment' but Jesus does not say no 'Law' - Romans arguably contradicts other passages - bit of a messy one - but still of the opinion - must have to have some 'right' & 'wrong' otherwise you cannot sin and therefor do what every you want, it doent matter as long as you have faith.

And the Love of God is well-defined:

Adonai, unto a beloved fellow servant:
Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment.
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Blessed be the Lord.

 

[Magenta]

His Majesty did speak regarding the very power of our thoughts and the true Spirit of the law:

Adonai:
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

And He did speak statute regarding temptation(s):
And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Indeed, He did embue with clarity regarding many things which pertain to the law and statutes of His government - before and after he died and rose from the dead. Many.

We are established as leaders - before the second death of the serpent of old AND of the new age, you and I; but we cannot govern properly without knowledge of the commandments and statutes of the Government of the King of kings (without circumcision of the heart).

HaTorah is far more interesting than the knowledge of the world (for the wisdom of the world is foolishness with God); we know that the Law of Life is true substance that does not fail (in strength and power).

The Peace and Love of our Beloved Messiah be with you in great abundance.

Thank You! God Bless You

 

[Yaacov]

Thank You! God Bless You

And yet it is only our Beloved Everlasting Father that you - my beloved sister and fellow servant - may thank; for we are both inherit - together.
May you continue, in all grace and divine power of the King of glory, to conquer wondrously.

Again,
The Peace and Love of our Beloved Messiah be with you in great abundance. Sincere.

 

[Magenta]

And yet it is only our Beloved Everlasting Father
that you - my beloved sister and fellow servant - may thank; for we are both inherit - together.
May you continue, in all grace and divine power of the King of glory, to conquer wondrously.

Again,
The Peace and Love of our Beloved Messiah be with you in great abundance. Sincere.

It would hardly be loving of me to neglect being grateful to you for your well wishes on my behalf .

 

[Yaacov]

Fair enough, beloved sister;
but perhaps you might speak, saying, "I thank the true and living God, even the God of Salvation for you, my brother and fellow servant." - that we give no opportunity for Hasatan to approach; for surely he will attempt to 'puff us up' with pride, to seduce us to take credit for that which belongs to Adonai alone (the glory).

Know, of a truth, that my heart is with you, even as we are commanded:
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”
(As you yourself have mentioned.)

 

[Magenta]

Fair enough, beloved sister;
but perhaps you might speak, saying, "I thank the true and living God, even the God of Salvation for you, my brother and fellow servant." - that we give no opportunity for Hasatan to approach; for surely he will attempt to 'puff us up' with pride, to seduce us to take credit for that which belongs to Adonai alone (the glory).

Know, of a truth, that my heart is with you, even as we are commanded:
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”
(As you yourself have mentioned.)

I do not normally speak so formally as you have indicated. And yet I am grateful to God in all things .

Psalm139-14~ I praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.
Marvelous are Your works, and I know this very well.

 

[Yaacov]

I do not normally speak so formally as you have indicated. And yet I am grateful to God in all things .

Psalm139-14~ I praise You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.
Marvelous are Your works, and I know this very well.

I am grateful.
(according to your words, as you say)
Be well.

 

[Magenta]

I am grateful.
(according to your words, as you say)
Be well.

Philippians 4:4

 

[wattie]

We seem to have come in a circle and a bit contradictory - so the law is not anulled, yes we as human nature will sin / fall short, but it doesn't matter as long as we have faith. 'Not the mosaic and levitical laws' the 10 commandments are what? so what other law did Jesus bring?

Keep it simple.. we live by the New Testament law of faith. This includes grace when we fall from Jesus in trying to follow Him.

End

 

[wattie]

We seem to have come in a circle and a bit contradictory - so the law is not anulled, yes we as human nature will sin / fall short, but it doesn't matter as long as we have faith. 'Not the mosaic and levitical laws' the 10 commandments are what? so what other law di

Adonai:
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

The Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the only begotten Son of the true and living God, be magnified.
The Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth comes soon.

No context.

 

[wattie]

Adonai:
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

The Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the only begotten Son of the true and living God, be magnified.
The Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth comes soon.

Someone who is converted by Jesus, if they build on their faith get more rewards in heaven. If they struggle in their walk.. they lose rewards.. that is where the 'behold, I come quickly...' verse comes in.

If you are working to try and get into heaven.. that is plain non-christian belief. If you preach on working to get to heaven you are probably gonna be reported.

 

[Snacks]

Beloved -
know ye not that ye scoff?

Is it not written:

Do not correct a scoffer, lest he hate you; Rebuke a wise man, and he will love you.

Therefore, know ye not what thou sayest of thyself - in speaking in such a manner?

Do your words reflect the fruits of the Spirit, beloved?

But wisdom is justified of all her children.

Please, if I err, admonish with wisdom, knowledge, and understanding; for in doing so, the Light granted thee by the Father of Lights doth shine brightly - unto the salvation of all who lack.

My post was not directedth at ye personally but rather I was supporting the general principles of @HeIsHere commenteth.

 

[HeIsHere]

My post was not directedth at ye personally but rather I was supporting the general principles of @HeIsHere commenteth.

Too bad we cannot give two emojis, this also deserves a......

 

[wattie]

From whenst thou cometh?

If for whatist did thou giveth a reply that we shouldeth retort?

Nay! That I should give such I do deny!

And what sense maketh thou to me?!

And what sense maketh I to thee?

Nought!

And so doth here endeth the lesson.

 

[Yaacov]

From whenst thou cometh?

If for whatist did thou giveth a reply that we shouldeth retort?

Nay! That I should give such I do deny!

And what sense maketh thou to me?!

And what sense maketh I to thee?

Nought!

And so doth here endeth the lesson.

Greetings, beloved -
Is not the earth the Lord's and the fulness thereof?
Does not the Lord set over His creation whosoever He Himself sees fit?

And whose race is it that we - being brethren - run along side each other?
Truly - that too belongs to the Holy One of Israel.

And what sayest thou of me? Am I your elder, your peer, or the younger?
And what authority hath the Lord God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob - the God of my forefathers - bestowed upon you? Upon me?

Wouldest thou speak unto the rock - unto beloved Peter in such a manner?
Are you great beyond the stature allotted to the eternal beloved Melech David (King David), or his son and rightful heir, beloved Melech Shlomo (King Solomon)? Are ye greater than the least of the servants of that same house?

For in all things, there IS hierchy; has not the Lord Jesus of Nazareth, the only begotten Son of the true and living God Himself spoken such - from the least to the greatest, and that the greatest amoungst you shall serve?

Consider your way, beloved. For all with authority established by God are to be ackowledged accordingly: the King of Heaven IS a just King. And the Lord our God is not slack in delivering unto all the fruit of their deeds.
Therefore, consider whether your words unto your fellow servant BE justified, whether ye BE vindicated in the sight of the Most High God or not.

Blessed be the Prince of peace; for His kingdom IS from everlasting to everlasting.
And His mercy endures forever unto those who love Him. Amen.

 

[Magenta]

Greetings, beloved -
Is not the earth the Lord's and the fulness thereof?
Does not the Lord set over His creation whosoever He Himself sees fit?

And whose race is it that we - being brethren - run along side each other?
Truly - that too belongs to the Holy One of Israel.

And what sayest thou of me? Am I your elder, your peer, or the younger?
And what authority hath the Lord God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob - the God of my forefathers - bestowed upon you? Upon me?

Wouldest thou speak unto the rock - unto beloved Peter in such a manner?
Are you great beyond the stature allotted to the eternal beloved Melech David (King David), or his son and rightful heir, beloved Melech Shlomo (King Solomon)? Are ye greater than the least of the servants of that same house?

For in all things, there IS hierchy; has not the Lord Jesus of Nazareth, the only begotten Son of the true and living God Himself spoken such - from the least to the greatest, and that the greatest amoungst you shall serve?

Consider your way, beloved. For all with authority established by God are to be ackowledged accordingly: the King of Heaven IS a just King. And the Lord our God is not slack in delivering unto all the fruit of their deeds.
Therefore, consider whether your words unto your fellow servant BE justified, whether ye BE vindicated in the sight of the Most High God or not.

Blessed be the Prince of peace; for His kingdom IS from everlasting to everlasting.
And His mercy endures forever unto those who love Him. Amen.

Spiritual Status - not Christian, it says on your profile.

 

[Yaacov]

Truly -
I am Jewish. Others would add 'Messianic'; for all of this house of Yehuda understand that the Messiah has indeed come. His name IS Jesus Christ of Nazareth; He IS the Son of God. Though we thought Him to be a man, son of Joseph - whose trade was carpentry, He was never a man; but rather, He did come in the form of a man - for there IS no man who is born of the Spirit of God, proceeding through the matrix of a righteous virgin.

 

[wattie]

Greetings, beloved -
Is not the earth the Lord's and the fulness thereof?
Does not the Lord set over His creation whosoever He Himself sees fit?

And whose race is it that we - being brethren - run along side each other?
Truly - that too belongs to the Holy One of Israel.

And what sayest thou of me? Am I your elder, your peer, or the younger?
And what authority hath the Lord God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob - the God of my forefathers - bestowed upon you? Upon me?

Wouldest thou speak unto the rock - unto beloved Peter in such a manner?
Are you great beyond the stature allotted to the eternal beloved Melech David (King David), or his son and rightful heir, beloved Melech Shlomo (King Solomon)? Are ye greater than the least of the servants of that same house?

For in all things, there IS hierchy; has not the Lord Jesus of Nazareth, the only begotten Son of the true and living God Himself spoken such - from the least to the greatest, and that the greatest amoungst you shall serve?

Consider your way, beloved. For all with authority established by God are to be ackowledged accordingly: the King of Heaven IS a just King. And the Lord our God is not slack in delivering unto all the fruit of their deeds.
Therefore, consider whether your words unto your fellow servant BE justified, whether ye BE vindicated in the sight of the Most High God or not.

Blessed be the Prince of peace; for His kingdom IS from everlasting to everlasting.
And His mercy endures forever unto those who love Him. Amen.

Okay.. well I was just having a bit of fun with the Old English there

I don't really understand many Messianic Jews yet. All that I've seen in this forum.. haven't given up on the OT laws.. and yet still accept Jesus as the Messiah.

I get keeping customary traditions... Jesus is even foreshadowed among all the feasts and celebrations from the OT. They show Jesus.

But why do you all seem to keep to the OT? And some even reject all the New Testament except the four gospels.

Surely a Messianic Jew.. means giving up the OT laws and wholly embracing the New Testament system of service.

With Jesus as fully God.

Peace

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Okay.. well I was just having a bit of fun with the Old English there

I don't really understand many Messianic Jews yet. All that I've seen in this forum.. haven't given up on the OT laws.. and yet still accept Jesus as the Messiah.

I get keeping customary traditions... Jesus is even foreshadowed among all the feasts and celebrations from the OT. They show Jesus.

But why do you all seem to keep to the OT? And some even reject all the New Testament except the four gospels.

Surely a Messianic Jew.. means giving up the OT laws and wholly embracing the New Testament system of service.

With Jesus as fully God.

Peace

You might be interested in this chapter from the documentary on the Hebrew Roots/ Sacred Name movement. From what this new member says, he will be in total disagreement with Evianiy (whatever his name is, I care not), and Walter on the name of our Lord , who blasphemed with impunity on this Christian forum. Maybe others will be interested in learning more.

BTW, I have known one person who identified as a Messianic Jew who did claim the real name of the Savior, Jesus, and His New Testament. So, I don't want to paint with the same brush. Time will tell though.
Why someone would reject identification with Christ, as a Christian, and rather be Jewish is addressed a number of places in Scripture and the book of Galatians.