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Peter walking on water was a literal event recorded in scripture. it was not a Parable. You asked what I thought was a "Parable" if it was fictional.
"Some people are suggesting the parable of the op is only fictional."
What's your take on that. ?
Jesus said why he spoke in parables, you will find that in Matthew chapter 13.
10 Jesus’ disciples came and said to him, “Why do you use parables when you speak to the crowds?”
11 Jesus replied, “Because they haven’t received the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but you have.
12 For those who have will receive more and they will have more than enough. But as for those who don’t have, even the little they have will be taken away from them.
13 This is why I speak to the crowds in parables: although they see, they don’t really see; and although they hear, they don’t really hear or understand.
14 What Isaiah prophesied has become completely true for them:
You will hear, to be sure, but never understand;
and you will certainly see but never recognize what you are seeing.
15 For this people’s senses have become calloused,
and they’ve become hard of hearing,
and they’ve shut their eyes
so that they won’t see with their eyes
or hear with their ears
or understand with their minds,
and change their hearts and lives that I may heal them.[a]
16 “Happy are your eyes because they see. Happy are your ears because they hear. 17 I assure you that many prophets and righteous people wanted to see what you see and hear what you hear, but they didn’t.
THe reason for Parable are what Jesus said
Nothing more, nothing less.
"Some people are suggesting the parable of the op is only fictional."
What's your take on that. ?
Jesus said why he spoke in parables, you will find that in Matthew chapter 13.
10 Jesus’ disciples came and said to him, “Why do you use parables when you speak to the crowds?”
11 Jesus replied, “Because they haven’t received the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but you have.
12 For those who have will receive more and they will have more than enough. But as for those who don’t have, even the little they have will be taken away from them.
13 This is why I speak to the crowds in parables: although they see, they don’t really see; and although they hear, they don’t really hear or understand.
14 What Isaiah prophesied has become completely true for them:
You will hear, to be sure, but never understand;
and you will certainly see but never recognize what you are seeing.
15 For this people’s senses have become calloused,
and they’ve become hard of hearing,
and they’ve shut their eyes
so that they won’t see with their eyes
or hear with their ears
or understand with their minds,
and change their hearts and lives that I may heal them.[a]
16 “Happy are your eyes because they see. Happy are your ears because they hear. 17 I assure you that many prophets and righteous people wanted to see what you see and hear what you hear, but they didn’t.
THe reason for Parable are what Jesus said
Nothing more, nothing less.
Jesus was explaining his morals in the parable.
His morals had been broken and he brought justice.
His parable was spiritual truth based on Isaiah 10.
The spiritual truth was Jesus visited those unjust Judges in spirit and spoke through them.
The parable starts with in a certain town certainly. Then it finished with listen to what the unjust judge said.
No where in this parable does it state, no justice was brought or it never happend or it was a fairy tale.
Have you ever seen an unjust cough befor they spoke, then he spoke differently changed his mind, I have.
I asked you about Peter to make you see the spiritual truth somewhere else.
Which is Jesus can do anything, he is the keeper of souls, he can take you anywhere in spirit, even walking on water.
You wouldn't walk on water in body, it would be in spirit.
You couldn't do that alone.
Which means
Jesus can take control of your spirit which is also your mind and tongue.
This is how prohesying works.
Jesus literally talks through your mouth.
Isaiah 10 probably had Jesus talking through his mouth.
Then Jesus talked through the mouths of the unjust Judges mouths, and woe.
The people got Justice at long last.
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@Fundaamental: With all due respect, and I'm not trying to be rude at all, but how do you know for certain, that you are a Prophet?
I can follow the thread of your logic exactly, but I don't know the case you're referring to. A judge might give a local widow monetary relief. An unjust judge might give the relief to a foreign agent. Which are unjust, the judge, in his personal character, or the written code of laws? Why is the judge unjust? Is he inconsistent in his enforcement of the Torah? Is it his integrity, and is it that his judgements respect the individual person? Is it his way of interpreting the statutes? Is it his ideology, which may well be in the eye of the beholder? Perhaps he legislates from the bench. How is he unjust? Is he always unjust, or only unjust in this case? Who is the widow, does she have an identity? Widows and judges are equally diverse, judges are different from each other as much as widows are.
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You need to ask God this.
I'll show you something
Isaiah 10 old t
Woe to those who make unjust laws,
to those who issue oppressive decrees,
2 to deprive the poor of their rights
and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people,
making widows their prey
and robbing the fatherless.
Jesus said this to the religious leaders of His day in Matthew
23:13, “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go.
Do you see the same speech in Isaiah..
Do you even see Jesus speaking through Isaiah
Do you even See Jesus walking in the old testament.
Some people don't see Jesus walking in the old testament, but I feel he was. 😊
I'll show you something
Isaiah 10 old t
Woe to those who make unjust laws,
to those who issue oppressive decrees,
2 to deprive the poor of their rights
and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people,
making widows their prey
and robbing the fatherless.
Jesus said this to the religious leaders of His day in Matthew
23:13, “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go.
Do you see the same speech in Isaiah..
Do you even see Jesus speaking through Isaiah
Do you even See Jesus walking in the old testament.
Some people don't see Jesus walking in the old testament, but I feel he was. 😊
Isaih is the major prophet whose primary message is the description of the character of the Messiah as a man, what he will be like. It is the scroll from which a Bat Mitzvah candidate reads to show that he is ready for confirmation as a Jew. Jesus must have been referring to this one specifically because he was teaching a Jewish person who should have known that and would have been fully expected to know that. He had said at His own Bat Mitzvah, after reading this scroll, that He fulfilled the character of the Messiah described in Isaiah. That was expected, that's what a Bat Mitzvah is, it's conformation that the Hebrew scholar understands the nature of the person who will save Israel and means to internalize that character and imitate that character, being like that, following those laws, and so on. Bat Mitzvah is the same as Candlemas in Christianity.
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I might dismiss it if it appeared only once, but "Bat Mitzvah" is for girls; "Bar Mitzvah" is for boys. "Bar" is son of; "Bat" is daughter of.
A Bar Mitzvah, as least in modern Jewish culture, is a coming-of-age celebration where the boy demonstrates that he knows enough of the old covenant to function as an adult within the mores of Jewish society.
Candlemas? Never heard of it.
A Bar Mitzvah, as least in modern Jewish culture, is a coming-of-age celebration where the boy demonstrates that he knows enough of the old covenant to function as an adult within the mores of Jewish society.
Candlemas? Never heard of it.
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How about Pharaoh letting the Hebrews leave Egypt?
Not because Pharaoh feared God, but so that Moses and Aaron will quit bugging him and God would quit plaguing him
this seems to me to fit the pattern in the parable pretty well.
so @Fundaamental what do you think this means?
Not because Pharaoh feared God, but so that Moses and Aaron will quit bugging him and God would quit plaguing him
this seems to me to fit the pattern in the parable pretty well.
so @Fundaamental what do you think this means?