God-Adonai-And-HaShem

[HealthAndHappiness]

besides all that. sus means pig. look it up. it was an insult from the start.

You are saying that a term from a modern Latin genus or slang term was retroactively applied to the Name of my Savior in a way to blaspheme Him. That is not only an etymological farce, but it's as blasphemous as the Hebrew Roots cult that claim His Name means "hail Zeus."

..."No man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed."

 

[evyaniy]

His Hebrew Name is His Name and reveals much to us. Why would we resist knowing and using His real Name?

 

[evyaniy]

the Hebrew roots cult. nice.

 

[evyaniy]

the grief you have to take for trying to share and discuss information. it was worth it because after looking through the Lexicon for about 10 Hebrew letters it pretty much confirmed that the last syllable of YAHAVAH is definitely VAH which means Word or Command. unless of course someone can prove otherwise, which no one has been able to do, even Hebrew Scholars who have studied it for years and offer no evidence to support their pronunciation of His Name.

 

[evyaniy]

look at it this way. if someone tried to hide and alter His Name for the past 2000 years to keep it hidden from us, it would seem worthy of trying to know the truth and His real Name and not some substitution that totally changes the meaning and sound.

 

[Nehemiah6]

I'm just making the case that may be what you are saying, that the people who claim that Jesus is a pagan name don't know what they are talking about.

The truth of the matter is that Jesus of Nazareth was hated by the Jewish religious leaders and He is still hated by them. So they will do anything to degrade and blaspheme THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. And by doing so they seal their eternal destiny.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

The truth of the matter is that Jesus of Nazareth was hated by the Jewish religious leaders and He is still hated by them. So they will do anything to degrade and blaspheme THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. And by doing so they seal their eternal destiny.

Some people are impressed by these new Sacred Name "Rabis" when they start throwing around a handful of terms from the 1800s. I want to give Evyanly the benefit of the doubt of simply repeating out of ignorance what one of these guys told him. However, these Hebrew Roots folks don't know what a dark path they are going down.

 

[Nehemiah6]

However, these Hebrew Roots folks don't know what a dark path they are going down.

This thread is another attempt to simply stir the pot and cause spiritual confusion. And we know who is ultimately behind this.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

The truth of the matter is that Jesus of Nazareth was hated by the Jewish religious leaders and He is still hated by them. So they will do anything to degrade and blaspheme THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. And by doing so they seal their eternal destiny.

Have you seen the Marching to Zion documentary yet?

 

[Nehemiah6]

Have you seen the Marching to Zion documentary yet?

Sorry I simply do not watch posted videos.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

This thread is another attempt to simply stir the pot and cause spiritual confusion. And we know who is ultimately behind this.

The last time I heard this kind of wicked nonsense was some guy who read a book and listened to a bossy Betty who was into it. Ted never even read the Bible through, yet he was teaching that everything from the past 2,000 years was a lie and his little group of sceptics were going to correct what the Bible translators got wrong.

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Sorry I simply do not watch posted videos.

There were Orthodox Jews interviewed to confirm what you just said. The rest is very informative about the subject. It's available for download (no copyright) if you ever change your mind.

 

[HopeinHim98]

The last time I heard this kind of wicked nonsense was some guy who read a book and listened to a bossy Betty who was into it. Ted never even read the Bible through, yet he was teaching that everything from the past 2,000 years was a lie and his little group of sceptics were going to correct what the Bible translators got wrong.

Why though, does the KJV translate YHWH to LORD instead of Jehovah in the OT?

 

[HealthAndHappiness]

Why though, does the KJV translate YHWH to LORD instead of Jehovah in the OT?

How do you pronounce YHWH?

When was Hebrew invented as a language?
1800s.
There are actually some groups in the Sacred Name movement that told me that certain languages were of the devil and that the Greek N.T. was originally in Hebrew. This is not true, however some will believe anything.

Nobody knows how YHWH was pronounced to Moses. However Jesus of the New Testament is the I AM. Exodus 3:14
What is important is that In the O.T. people were not saved by the law, but by faith when they called upon the name of the LORD for that salvation.

Genesis 4:26
"And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD."

Romans 10:9, 13
"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

There may be more, but I'm only aware of one translation that always uses Jehovah instead of LORD. I don't have time now to get into more details now, but will leave you with this. As to the Sacred Name / Hebrew Roots blasphemy of Mark Davidson and Lew White, I suggest you run, don't walk, to the nearest exit when you see it. I like Walter, but am disappointed with his thread.

I have Lew White's book. The thing that I first noticed after buying it, was the lack of a bibliography and the many false claims. I might just commemorate this thread by starting my incinerator with it. I've been meaning to thin out my library of clutter.
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Hope you have a great day.

 

[PrepackagedCat]

There is no recording of the Hebrew.
It is a dead language.
You are an articulate English speaker.
The Scriptures have been accurately translated into our language, O.T. and New, so we are truly blessed to not have need to learn Hebrew as a second language.

This was my understanding as well. The bible was written in Greek. The bible Jesus used was in Greek, the bible Christians used were in Greek. The dead sea scrolls were in Greek. So Jesus it is!
I have called on the Lord Jesus name for salvation. When I received the holy spirit I rejoiced and I thank him still! I won't call him any other name.

 

[Beckie]

AS if God can not understand different human languages ... SHEESH

 

[Dino246]

All religions come from Babylon and behind every false name and title there is an unclear spirit lurking, veiling the truth of Yahusha’s Name and hence His Deliverance from evil through belief, repentance and Immersion in His Name (Yahusha literally means Yahuah is our Deliverance)… Now how easy is that to understand? Anything that casts the true Name of our Creator Yahuah and Messiah Yahusha to ruin is breaking the 3rd Commandment and is lawlessness (sin - hence a demon).

Even in conceptual terms, "sin" and "demon" are distinct. There is a link between the concepts but there are also several degrees of separation between them. Conflating and thereby confusing them doesn't help anyone get closer to the truth.

“God/Gad”

is wicked and pagan and truly an insult to His majesty, referring to Him as a mythical creature or common object of idol worship.

The etymology of a word does not circumscribe its meaning in present usage.

“Adonai” and “Lord” are directly related in Hebrew and both refer to Baal (Moloch) the child-sacrificing and tree-worshipping idolatry that saw Yahuah’s Bride (Yisharal) divorced and scattered into captivity over 2730 years ago.

Where is your evidence for these claims?

Yahuah is incredibly offended with being called this.

Really? Did He tell you (the writer of the article you quote) this? It's certainly not in His word. If He didn't tell you, who appointed you to speak for Him?

 

[HopeinHim98]

How do you pronounce YHWH?

When was Hebrew invented as a language?
1800s.
There are actually some groups in the Sacred Name movement that told me that certain languages were of the devil and that the Greek N.T. was originally in Hebrew. This is not true, however some will believe anything.

Nobody knows how YHWH was pronounced to Moses. However Jesus of the New Testament is the I AM. Exodus 3:14
What is important is that In the O.T. people were not saved by the law, but by faith when they called upon the name of the LORD for that salvation.

Genesis 4:26
"And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD."

Romans 10:9, 13
"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

There may be more, but I'm only aware of one translation that always uses Jehovah instead of LORD. I don't have time now to get into more details now, but will leave you with this. As to the Sacred Name / Hebrew Roots blasphemy of Mark Davidson and Lew White, I suggest you run, don't walk, to the nearest exit when you see it. I like Walter, but am disappointed with his thread.

I have Lew White's book. The thing that I first noticed after buying it, was the lack of a bibliography and the many false claims. I might just commemorate this thread by starting my incinerator with it. I've been meaning to thin out my library of clutter.
🔥📚🙂🧯

Hope you have a great day.

Maybe you misunderstood me, I'm not trying to advocate that you must call God YHWH. I know people who do call Him Yahuah or Yahweh. I don't claim to know how it is supposed to be pronounced and I don't think it's a big deal to God.

My question was specifically, why did the KJV translators translate the name YHWH into Jehovah, instead of "the LORD" like they did? Like there are different places the KJV reads, "the LORD is his name" (Ex. 15:3, Jer. 33:2) Most serious students of the Bible know that "the LORD" wasn't actually His name, and most serious students of the Bible also know that every time you see "the LORD" in all capitals, it means Jehovah. So if the OT was translated from Hebrew to English, why didn't the translators just use Jehovah?

 

[HopeinHim98]

Maybe you misunderstood me, I'm not trying to advocate that you must call God YHWH. I know people who do call Him Yahuah or Yahweh. I don't claim to know how it is supposed to be pronounced and I don't think it's a big deal to God.

My question was specifically, why did the KJV translators translate the name YHWH into Jehovah, instead of "the LORD" like they did? Like there are different places the KJV reads, "the LORD is his name" (Ex. 15:3, Jer. 33:2) Most serious students of the Bible know that "the LORD" wasn't actually His name, and most serious students of the Bible also know that every time you see "the LORD" in all capitals, it means Jehovah. So if the OT was translated from Hebrew to English, why didn't the translators just use Jehovah?

I mean why didn't they translate it that way lol.

 

[Walter]

Even in conceptual terms, "sin" and "demon" are distinct. There is a link between the concepts but there are also several degrees of separation between them. Conflating and thereby confusing them doesn't help anyone get closer to the truth.


The etymology of a word does not circumscribe its meaning in present usage.


Where is your evidence for these claims?


Really? Did He tell you (the writer of the article you quote) this? It's certainly not in His word. If He didn't tell you, who appointed you to speak for Him?

I did not write this, it was pasted by me, but written by it is at the bottom of the page.