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Locoponydirtman

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All tho you think the parable was just about never losing hope and always pray there's also a deeper meaning which I have just illustrated to you, which gives a deeper meaning of why we need to pray daily.

Well this is because I could become a donkey in 5 minutes.
Eeeeee awwwwee
What you are doing is isogesis, and abusing that parable in an extreme way.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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I am curious what was in mind for 'born again atheist'-- maybe meant as a metaphor. In the Biblical sense that isn't a thing. But there have probably been preachers and street witnessers who decreed atheists to be born again for repeating a prayer. There is this idea in some circles that repeating a prayer is what saves... as opposed to believing the gospel....and so some people are told to repeat a prayer without even telling them that Jesus rose from the dead.

Secular society has coopted the tetm 'born again' and used it for 'born again virgin'-- not a virgin who got born again but a fornicator who stopped fornicating.

The purpose of the parable was to teach how poeople should 'always pray and not lose heart.'
Yes, revivalism amd decisionism has mislead many in that regard. But i have heard many who reject Christ but claim to accept his teaching; which is in reality impossible.
I have also heard of the so called born again virgin, which is also an impossibility. I think that originated with Joyce Meyer or maybe thats just who I heard it come from.
 

studentoftheword

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All I say ---IS----- you can tell by the posts this person is posting that Satan has him



So I say ----RUN FOREST RUN

 

ResidentAlien

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All tho you think the parable was just about never losing hope and always pray there's also a deeper meaning which I have just illustrated to you, which gives a deeper meaning of why we need to pray daily.

Well this is because I could become a donkey in 5 minutes.
Eeeeee awwwwee
You're welcome to your opinion; however, always looking for "deeper" meanings is a waste of time. You should just take the passage at face value and ask God to help you apply it to your life. Doesn't matter how "deep" your understanding is, if you're not walking in the truth you're only puffed up in your own mind and profitable for nothing.
 

presidente

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All tho you think the parable was just about never losing hope and always pray there's also a deeper meaning which I have just illustrated to you, which gives a deeper meaning of why we need to pray daily.

Well this is because I could become a donkey in 5 minutes.
Eeeeee awwwwee
I'm thinking of Luke 18.

18 Then He spoke a parable to them, that men always ought to pray and not lose heart,
(NKJV)
 

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I can understand what someone means who says, "born again atheist". Taken literally as either a spiritual condition or status in a congregation I would either reject it or doubt that one existed, but I understand the sense of what a person would mean who had said it. "Born Again" is Christian terminology and comes from a conversation Jesus had with Nicodemus, which involved more than those words in the exchange and which in turn has its context in the Gospel narrative. But there's also such a thing as the belief in reincarnation, which is the foreign and non Christian way of looking at the expression "born again". Someone who did believe in reincarnation would still be classified as an atheist in terms of Christianity, but the person while describing what he thought about life after death and the state of the dead would still talk about successive rebirth and maybe even use the expression born again.
 

Fundaamental

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You're welcome to your opinion; however, always looking for "deeper" meanings is a waste of time. You should just take the passage at face value and ask God to help you apply it to your life. Doesn't matter how "deep" your understanding is, if you're not walking in the truth you're only puffed up in your own mind and profitable for nothing.
This would be your faith not mine.
 

Fundaamental

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All I say ---IS----- you can tell by the posts this person is posting that Satan has him



So I say ----RUN FOREST RUN

Didn't I tell you you had more pictures to come 4 posts ag0.


Fundaamental has gone fishing wahooooooo. 😊
 

CS1

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I think there is away to prove Jesus was speaking through the unjust Judge (athiest) all the way through verses luke 1-8. And it was also a prophecy.
And this is not a mockery.
Because God can speak through a donkey (any athiest)

The unjust Judge had no intension of pleasing God, in the previous verse his Idea to give the the persistent widow seeking Justice,
Was not because he feared God, but for his own desire,

What does this mean.

Well an unjust Judge who is accountable to God should always bring Justice For God's name sake not for him self.

His attitude is clearly demonstrated that he was never doing that, and he was giving people Justice to recieve Justice and praise for himself, (a self righteous typical person seeking praise and glory for himself.

So where the unjust judge spoke from verses 1-8 he was never going to speak how Jesus would have because he didn't care what God thought.

But yet the whole statement from verses 1-8 was exactly How Jesus thought.

This means to me that Jesus was speaking through a donkey (atheist unjust judge)., Revealing a prophecy.

So then I say if a prophecy can come through a donkey, why is it so hard to believe it can come through a Christian who brings all things Good for the Glory of God.

We must understand That God can speak through a donkey, but he has made it known it is HIS word written He chooses to do so as a normative. Everything must be seen through the light of the word of God. We can not allegorize the word of God. it must be kept in context and the authorial intent.
 

presidente

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Yes, revivalism amd decisionism has mislead many in that regard. But i have heard many who reject Christ but claim to accept his teaching; which is in reality impossible.
I have also heard of the so called born again virgin, which is also an impossibility. I think that originated with Joyce Meyer or maybe thats just who I heard it come from.
I did a couple of quick searches in Google Scholar. The earliest reference I could find to it was a 1982 Medical College of Georgia campus newspaper, 'Cadaver', which has an apparently satyrical article about someone who went to a 'Virgins Anonymous' meeting.

He wrote,
"For me, you see, virginity is a lot
like love ... "it comes but once and
yet, I'm oh so glad we met, thesecond
time around." Like an unscrewed
light bulb, I'm a "born
again" virgin."
 

Fundaamental

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We must understand That God can speak through a donkey, but he has made it known it is HIS word written He chooses to do so as a normative. Everything must be seen through the light of the word of God. We can not allegorize the word of God. it must be kept in context and the authorial intent.
to understand in an allegorical sense; interpret allegorically.

Is there something wrong with the word authorize when it goes with allegorize.

I allegedly explained the authority of, how if we don't seek God befor we Judge, we allegedly authorize like an unjust Judge (a donkey)
 

CS1

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to understand in an allegorical sense; interpret allegorically.

Is there something wrong with the word authorize when it goes with allegorize.

I allegedly explained the authority of, how if we don't seek God befor we Judge, we allegedly authorize like an unjust Judge (a donkey)
the issue is God speaking through a Donkey is descriptive, not normative. The Idea God can speak through as Athiest is true. However, God doesn't do so nor teach. He will do so.

Satan spoke the word of God to Jesus, yet it was not in the context of truth but manipulation.


Hebrews 11:6 says And without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him.

An atheist is a fool, the word of God says, because he denies there is a GOD. We are not to listen to their Counsel. Therefore IF God was to speak through an Athiest, it would be some what a contradiction, would it not?
 

Dino246

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I think there is away to prove Jesus was speaking through the unjust Judge (athiest) all the way through verses luke 1-8. And it was also a prophecy.
And this is not a mockery.
Because God can speak through a donkey (any athiest)

The unjust Judge had no intension of pleasing God, in the previous verse his Idea to give the the persistent widow seeking Justice,
Was not because he feared God, but for his own desire,

What does this mean.

Well an unjust Judge who is accountable to God should always bring Justice For God's name sake not for him self.

His attitude is clearly demonstrated that he was never doing that, and he was giving people Justice to recieve Justice and praise for himself, (a self righteous typical person seeking praise and glory for himself.

So where the unjust judge spoke from verse 1-8 he was never going to speak how Jesus would have because he didn't care what God thought.

But yet the whole statement from verse 1-8 was exactly How Jesus thought.

This means to me that Jesus was speaking through a donkey (athiest unjust judge)., Revealing a prophecy.

So then I say if a prophecy can come through a donkey why is it so hard to believe it can come through a Christian who brings all things Good for the Glory of God.
You keep pleading on the basis of an utterly flawed premise.

This is a parable. The judge was not a real person. Quit trying to argue that a fictional character could be born again; you're wasting your time.
 
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Niki7

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When is this banal deliberate baiting and mocking going to be ushered out the door?

smh

way past time
 

Dino246

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All tho you think the parable was just about never losing hope and always pray there's also a deeper meaning which I have just illustrated to you, which gives a deeper meaning of why we need to pray daily.

Well this is because I could become a donkey in 5 minutes.
Eeeeee awwwwee
Firstly, the word is "although".

Secondly, your self-aggrandizing "deeper meaning" is not any deeper than the plain text. Lose the arrogance, or be thought of as a donkey.