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The spirit of prophecy would imply, I have received a gift to testify to the prophecies of Jesus.
Which could imply this is the gift you have been given, to always be reminded of future events,
The confusion is not all people given the gift of the spirit of prophecy will speak out prophecies that will happen at all times.
But even if they don't it doesn't make them any less more chosen than somebody who does.
Which could imply this is the gift you have been given, to always be reminded of future events,
The confusion is not all people given the gift of the spirit of prophecy will speak out prophecies that will happen at all times.
But even if they don't it doesn't make them any less more chosen than somebody who does.
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you know you are one of the few who has recognized what has been going on and what God has been saying or rather the holy spirit revealed it to you. Yes my purpose isn't about me or anything it is for the church it is for a wake up call a rise to be the body that we once were.
My resolve is absolute even the church itself complains about the state of the itself many believers often say how churches have become watered down how there is no real passion or zeal for God anymore we have all these different denominations different sects and doctrines all claiming to be the truth and from the holy spirit your told to study study study yet no one sees what is wrong here the mere fact that the word of God is divided by perspective even without us realizing it means we arent seeing or understanding the truth.
We look at who Jesus said we are in him what is actually possible we say anything is possible yet lack the proof of it leaving these promises as something that faded in history. we have so many people out there hidden in plain site ignored by the world and the church alike and we don't try to reach them the lost are called the lost for a reason they aren't going to ind or come to us that is why they are lost and I have been considering all this or a while now and much more and inally I was just sick of it and told God if no one else is going to step up to the plate then I will I am going to actually do something about it not complain about it I am not goping to study the word until I am actually ready for it if I am not able to see the truth the real truth then I see no point in recieving a half truth or a truth based on interpretation and I have personally seen the level in which he intends to bring me just a few nights ago I had a dream where his presence flooded a room I was in and he overtook me so strongly that I almost didn't let him it was intense but I said to myself no I wanted to go deeper with him and when I let him overtake me an intense loud and strong winds was blowing all I could hear wass this rushing wind and I actually began to glow in a white and blue light and actually began floating in midair all the while this powerful wind blew and it even was still so strong and loud when I first woke up to.
It was a unison with him as if it was no longer me and him no longer two seperate persons but a closeness a unison as if we were somehow so deeply intertwined that we were one person.
There is a depth and level to him that goes beyond what we know a mystery and wonder of God that is not seen or known by the average believer it is a level with him that literally can alter reality as we know it but it is a position with him not a mere level of faith a position where we leave our old selves our old way of doing things our old way of understanding him and his word going to the heavenly realm the kingdom itself and he has been calling us to this life with him over and over and over again I mean I felt the anger and frustration he had for his stubborn children so while I am still growing in this I am trying to get people to tune into his frequency to listen to what he is saying I mean if people actually looked at the context of what I am saying they would know it isn't me speaking I mean did anyone even take into consideration how I said I recieved this prophetic word? I recieved while being in wirship with him the absolute joy and life that comes from worshipping him just looking insanse bouncing in your chair while singing to him with you heart and soul it is the most amazing thing a beauty and wonder that is the key to unlocking all the promises and secrets of heaven it is the state heart and mind of worship that does it this is what it means to worship in spirit and in truth
My resolve is absolute even the church itself complains about the state of the itself many believers often say how churches have become watered down how there is no real passion or zeal for God anymore we have all these different denominations different sects and doctrines all claiming to be the truth and from the holy spirit your told to study study study yet no one sees what is wrong here the mere fact that the word of God is divided by perspective even without us realizing it means we arent seeing or understanding the truth.
We look at who Jesus said we are in him what is actually possible we say anything is possible yet lack the proof of it leaving these promises as something that faded in history. we have so many people out there hidden in plain site ignored by the world and the church alike and we don't try to reach them the lost are called the lost for a reason they aren't going to ind or come to us that is why they are lost and I have been considering all this or a while now and much more and inally I was just sick of it and told God if no one else is going to step up to the plate then I will I am going to actually do something about it not complain about it I am not goping to study the word until I am actually ready for it if I am not able to see the truth the real truth then I see no point in recieving a half truth or a truth based on interpretation and I have personally seen the level in which he intends to bring me just a few nights ago I had a dream where his presence flooded a room I was in and he overtook me so strongly that I almost didn't let him it was intense but I said to myself no I wanted to go deeper with him and when I let him overtake me an intense loud and strong winds was blowing all I could hear wass this rushing wind and I actually began to glow in a white and blue light and actually began floating in midair all the while this powerful wind blew and it even was still so strong and loud when I first woke up to.
It was a unison with him as if it was no longer me and him no longer two seperate persons but a closeness a unison as if we were somehow so deeply intertwined that we were one person.
There is a depth and level to him that goes beyond what we know a mystery and wonder of God that is not seen or known by the average believer it is a level with him that literally can alter reality as we know it but it is a position with him not a mere level of faith a position where we leave our old selves our old way of doing things our old way of understanding him and his word going to the heavenly realm the kingdom itself and he has been calling us to this life with him over and over and over again I mean I felt the anger and frustration he had for his stubborn children so while I am still growing in this I am trying to get people to tune into his frequency to listen to what he is saying I mean if people actually looked at the context of what I am saying they would know it isn't me speaking I mean did anyone even take into consideration how I said I recieved this prophetic word? I recieved while being in wirship with him the absolute joy and life that comes from worshipping him just looking insanse bouncing in your chair while singing to him with you heart and soul it is the most amazing thing a beauty and wonder that is the key to unlocking all the promises and secrets of heaven it is the state heart and mind of worship that does it this is what it means to worship in spirit and in truth
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I have always walked in the gift of prophecy but that didn't make me a prophet there is a difference. I can have these visions I have all the time I can have dreams I can give prophetic utterences and prophecies but that still doesn't make me a prophet.
Everone who seems to want to be a prophet are called false prophets and they are indeed everywhere I was personally severely damaged by these so called prophets in my early years of faith they always have a word from the Lord or a prophecies or this will happen or that will bless you ect.
But the role of a prophet is first and foremoest to build encourage strengthen and help guide his flock everything else is secondary and what people don't understand is that being a prophet is a heavy matter it is not as if you walk in the spirit all giddy and uttering prophecy it is a serious role and you more than anyone are held accountable by the very throne itself for what you speak and what you claim to be from the lips of God.
Even though I have been called a prophet since my early years of faith it took me a very long time to accept who he called me to be and the only reason I think that he called me to be a true prophet is because I understand these things about being a prophet
Everone who seems to want to be a prophet are called false prophets and they are indeed everywhere I was personally severely damaged by these so called prophets in my early years of faith they always have a word from the Lord or a prophecies or this will happen or that will bless you ect.
But the role of a prophet is first and foremoest to build encourage strengthen and help guide his flock everything else is secondary and what people don't understand is that being a prophet is a heavy matter it is not as if you walk in the spirit all giddy and uttering prophecy it is a serious role and you more than anyone are held accountable by the very throne itself for what you speak and what you claim to be from the lips of God.
Even though I have been called a prophet since my early years of faith it took me a very long time to accept who he called me to be and the only reason I think that he called me to be a true prophet is because I understand these things about being a prophet
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Hello Blain! So lovely as always to see you posting. I am so sorry to hear of your health issues,
and especially about the deteriorating condition of your eyes. I have been listening to Ezekiel
the last few days as I lay in bed at night, and boy oh boy! Being a prophet is no piece of cake.
It may be that Ezekiel was made to suffer more as a prophet than the others. Still! .
I am glad you are able to experience the closeness and connection you have with God.
And I understand what you mean when you say how you rejected initially the notion of
being chosen by God for anything special. I first encountered that idea for myself before
I was converted, and I loudly but-but-butted about it. Then when I became a Christian
and was able to acknowledge in a real way that I was chosen, it was like being thunder-
struck, and I wondered whatever for could God have chosen me? Knowing we are all
chosen in God is one thing, but thinking He has something specific in mind for you is
quite another. Someone in my church told me that God would bless me no matter what
I chose to do. I realize that came with caveats, but it did help calm my mind, because
quite frankly, trying to live up to other people's expectations of me just about killed me,
so I figured that trying to live up to God's expectations would be even more taxing.
However, this has not been the case, as I live out my life and grow in my faith. His timing
is impeccable, and I am grateful He was gracious enough to allow me to survive the stupidity
of my youth, for my golden years are in many ways richer than any I lived through before.
and especially about the deteriorating condition of your eyes. I have been listening to Ezekiel
the last few days as I lay in bed at night, and boy oh boy! Being a prophet is no piece of cake.
It may be that Ezekiel was made to suffer more as a prophet than the others. Still! .
I am glad you are able to experience the closeness and connection you have with God.
And I understand what you mean when you say how you rejected initially the notion of
being chosen by God for anything special. I first encountered that idea for myself before
I was converted, and I loudly but-but-butted about it. Then when I became a Christian
and was able to acknowledge in a real way that I was chosen, it was like being thunder-
struck, and I wondered whatever for could God have chosen me? Knowing we are all
chosen in God is one thing, but thinking He has something specific in mind for you is
quite another. Someone in my church told me that God would bless me no matter what
I chose to do. I realize that came with caveats, but it did help calm my mind, because
quite frankly, trying to live up to other people's expectations of me just about killed me,
so I figured that trying to live up to God's expectations would be even more taxing.
However, this has not been the case, as I live out my life and grow in my faith. His timing
is impeccable, and I am grateful He was gracious enough to allow me to survive the stupidity
of my youth, for my golden years are in many ways richer than any I lived through before.
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It seems to me that most don't understand revelation to begin with otherwise topics like the tribulation and the rapture and the order and timing of everything spoken of would not be instant blood bath or senseless arguing
This isn't about taking over the world I can't honestly call anyone who would even think such a notion to have common sense and yeah for years people have been saying that there is going to be a move of God a true revival but tell me how is this unbelieving generation suppose to see and experience the glory of God? You for instance reject this ntion because you have forgotten who you are in him and who he is, don't forget every prophecy he ever gave in scripture didn't simply happen it always took a long time many even hundreds of years and you are in unbelief because you heard this so many times and haven't seen it just the same tune being played over again right?
But unless I am mistaken faith is believing in what is unseen and blessed are those who believe without having seen. The spirit speaks to the spirit your not listening
This isn't about taking over the world I can't honestly call anyone who would even think such a notion to have common sense and yeah for years people have been saying that there is going to be a move of God a true revival but tell me how is this unbelieving generation suppose to see and experience the glory of God? You for instance reject this ntion because you have forgotten who you are in him and who he is, don't forget every prophecy he ever gave in scripture didn't simply happen it always took a long time many even hundreds of years and you are in unbelief because you heard this so many times and haven't seen it just the same tune being played over again right?
But unless I am mistaken faith is believing in what is unseen and blessed are those who believe without having seen. The spirit speaks to the spirit your not listening
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Interestingly confusing. Would you happen to be able to point to scripture that perhaps explain what you say here without the er.....word salad part?
The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy . The spiritual gift of prophecy should be in agreement with scripture and if it is not, then it does not ring true.
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” Rev. 19:10
The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy . The spiritual gift of prophecy should be in agreement with scripture and if it is not, then it does not ring true.
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” Rev. 19:10
Hi Niki I'm not spiritually grown enough to make a decision ,
But I have found this thread interesting. And I'm trying to understand all points of view.
I could say I'm going to build a raised flower bed,
And you say hey I know you are.
Or Tomorrow you will lol.
Or you could have seen a vision of me somewhere else, whilst you where some where else, and when we met up you said I saw you in the shop making a mistake and then this happend,. And I said how the hec did you know that.
And you said I don't know.
But if visions keep happening like this it could be the gift of prophecy,. I would be interested to hear about some of the visions blain has had in more detail.
But I have found this thread interesting. And I'm trying to understand all points of view.
I could say I'm going to build a raised flower bed,
And you say hey I know you are.
Or Tomorrow you will lol.
Or you could have seen a vision of me somewhere else, whilst you where some where else, and when we met up you said I saw you in the shop making a mistake and then this happend,. And I said how the hec did you know that.
And you said I don't know.
But if visions keep happening like this it could be the gift of prophecy,. I would be interested to hear about some of the visions blain has had in more detail.
Sorry I was looking through the pages as I had no idea the thread even got this but I just wanted to touch on this real quick.
You say you can tell the difference between the real and the fake but how many real ones are there out there? Is it any wonder that the vast majority of so called prophets are all fakes? is it any wonder how it almost seems like prophecy is watered down to mystic and spirituality mind sets?
People don't understand what a prophet is it isn't about the visions and the dreams and the prophecies you give the role of a prophet is to build encourage strenghten and help guide his church and you more than anyone are held accountable for the things you say and the words you claim to be from God's lips.
Knowing this do you think I would claim any of this if I did not also consider the heavy toll that would come with blaspheming claiming to be speaking from God?
And as for the word of God goes have you not noticed the division and variety of understanding of the word? Even when you read it and study it your never really get the ful picture do you? in some way or form something doesn't line up and a lot of times our own perspective sneaks in without us realizing it and when you see the different views and understanding of just a single verse does it not bother you? Does it not make you think that if we have been using the same method and it still isn't working maybe we need to try a different thing?
I know this may sound contraversal but maybe we simply arent ready to actually study the word. I told him I wanted the truth and wouldn't accept anything less than that I sought after the truth going to Jesus himself because he is the way the truth and the light. Can you imagine my shock when he told me I am not ready to study the word? I have studied it for years I am fascinated with the hebrews and their traditions how their language works how complex God plan from the beginning to the end is so cleaverly woven but I was told I wasn't ready because even if I studied it I wouldn't be getting the whole truth the real truth that eludes so many of us instead he wanted me to first reach a level and frequency with him that I won't lie is not for the average believer it is a mysteruous beautiful and glorious journey but you are going to be taken out of your comfort zone your going to have to drop everything you thought you understood and your going to have to solidfy your resolve If your not in this all the way if your not willing to risk everything for the truth if your not going to chase after it no matter how crazy or wierd or bad things get refusing to back down on your search for the truth your just going to stay where you are in him.
Yes we grow as believers and we get closer to him but this is only the first layer it goes deeper than you can imagine and you can say what you will of me but you know I am legally blind it hurts just being on here my health is in dangerous condition and often time i have lay down from just sitting in my chair but at least I am actually willing to act even with all my issues that isn't even including the lack of nutrition in my body because I have so little money that I can only barely survive to the end of the month along with other medical conditions I recieved from the cancer I had and yet I am still obeying him I am still doing what he says to do saying what he says to say
Everyone sees the state of the church even other believers everyone complains of the lack of understanding but I don't see anyone doing something about it. So since no one else would step up to the plate since no one else is willing I said to him use me.
The church is dead claiming otherwise is simply niave and the spirit he gave me is not just in me slowly he is creating a heartbeat in the body again and he is using people like me to do it.
I am the spark that will lead to the grand finale I was sent here to be that spark because he is trying to wake everyone up he is trying to get people to his level out of their old mindset and way of being with him he is calling us to a higher realm with him but people aren't listening
You say you can tell the difference between the real and the fake but how many real ones are there out there? Is it any wonder that the vast majority of so called prophets are all fakes? is it any wonder how it almost seems like prophecy is watered down to mystic and spirituality mind sets?
People don't understand what a prophet is it isn't about the visions and the dreams and the prophecies you give the role of a prophet is to build encourage strenghten and help guide his church and you more than anyone are held accountable for the things you say and the words you claim to be from God's lips.
Knowing this do you think I would claim any of this if I did not also consider the heavy toll that would come with blaspheming claiming to be speaking from God?
And as for the word of God goes have you not noticed the division and variety of understanding of the word? Even when you read it and study it your never really get the ful picture do you? in some way or form something doesn't line up and a lot of times our own perspective sneaks in without us realizing it and when you see the different views and understanding of just a single verse does it not bother you? Does it not make you think that if we have been using the same method and it still isn't working maybe we need to try a different thing?
I know this may sound contraversal but maybe we simply arent ready to actually study the word. I told him I wanted the truth and wouldn't accept anything less than that I sought after the truth going to Jesus himself because he is the way the truth and the light. Can you imagine my shock when he told me I am not ready to study the word? I have studied it for years I am fascinated with the hebrews and their traditions how their language works how complex God plan from the beginning to the end is so cleaverly woven but I was told I wasn't ready because even if I studied it I wouldn't be getting the whole truth the real truth that eludes so many of us instead he wanted me to first reach a level and frequency with him that I won't lie is not for the average believer it is a mysteruous beautiful and glorious journey but you are going to be taken out of your comfort zone your going to have to drop everything you thought you understood and your going to have to solidfy your resolve If your not in this all the way if your not willing to risk everything for the truth if your not going to chase after it no matter how crazy or wierd or bad things get refusing to back down on your search for the truth your just going to stay where you are in him.
Yes we grow as believers and we get closer to him but this is only the first layer it goes deeper than you can imagine and you can say what you will of me but you know I am legally blind it hurts just being on here my health is in dangerous condition and often time i have lay down from just sitting in my chair but at least I am actually willing to act even with all my issues that isn't even including the lack of nutrition in my body because I have so little money that I can only barely survive to the end of the month along with other medical conditions I recieved from the cancer I had and yet I am still obeying him I am still doing what he says to do saying what he says to say
Everyone sees the state of the church even other believers everyone complains of the lack of understanding but I don't see anyone doing something about it. So since no one else would step up to the plate since no one else is willing I said to him use me.
The church is dead claiming otherwise is simply niave and the spirit he gave me is not just in me slowly he is creating a heartbeat in the body again and he is using people like me to do it.
I am the spark that will lead to the grand finale I was sent here to be that spark because he is trying to wake everyone up he is trying to get people to his level out of their old mindset and way of being with him he is calling us to a higher realm with him but people aren't listening
well i watch tbn Christian channel all the time where people are claiming to have spoken in tongues and then be really weak for days.
There was even a sermon of somebody speaking this way and she was in hospital for days afterwards, I think she was called Wendy Alec.
I don't know whether this applies to speaking prophecies also, but it seems you talk about becoming weaker for a while.
Wendy claims to have seen the crystal sea that is referenced in heaven and the bible in a dream or a vision.
There was even a sermon of somebody speaking this way and she was in hospital for days afterwards, I think she was called Wendy Alec.
I don't know whether this applies to speaking prophecies also, but it seems you talk about becoming weaker for a while.
Wendy claims to have seen the crystal sea that is referenced in heaven and the bible in a dream or a vision.
it is good to try to understand the different points of view it at least shows a willing to consider things rather than have a set mind on a matter. My advice to you is to seek a deeper bond with God first and foremoest this level with him I speak of is all about that closeness with him and if you want to understand the truth if you want to read the bible in truth with a new pair of eyes the bond with him is the first thing you need to establish and I'm not talking about the normal closeness with him just as the word of God is like an onion or the earths crust as it has many layers so to does the existance we have with him and there is a whole other realm with him that will blow your mind and make you realize just how amazing how mighty how glorious he really is.
You keep talking about the "church" like it's the visible form of organized religion. I agree organized religion has a lot of problems; but that's not the church. The church is the body of Christ, whether they are involved in organized religion or not. You seem to want to overhaul organized religion and make it "better"; the way you think it should be. But the true body of Christ doesn't need to be overhauled. They're out there already, day after day, making a difference in people's lives; but you refuse to see it.
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I am talking about the church as the body of Christ as a whole not a building or any visiable or thing no organization only the body those who would call themselves followers of Christ.
And yes there are those out there doing the work of God but not as many as you would think and the thing is a body can't function right if only parts of it are functioning and whether you want to accept it or not the fact of the matter is that the body as a whole is dead yes parts of it is alive and active but the world sees us as lying judgemental hypocrites just another religion and when you actually talk with a lot of other Christians you see the same pattern in their words as well.
The fact that this is our reality is not only sad but unacceptable. We say anything is possible with God we teach what faith can do the preach of the power of the word and of God yet how often do you actually see any of this? how many actually walk in the power and authority in Christ? How many can truly say anything is possible with God? We would be living in a different dimension we would be different we would be alien to the world they wouldn't be able to scientifically explain the things they would see from us the spirit would be alive and every where we would go we would prove anything is possible not just teach it.
As I keep saying remember who you are remember what you called to be and to do and remember who it is you serve
And yes there are those out there doing the work of God but not as many as you would think and the thing is a body can't function right if only parts of it are functioning and whether you want to accept it or not the fact of the matter is that the body as a whole is dead yes parts of it is alive and active but the world sees us as lying judgemental hypocrites just another religion and when you actually talk with a lot of other Christians you see the same pattern in their words as well.
The fact that this is our reality is not only sad but unacceptable. We say anything is possible with God we teach what faith can do the preach of the power of the word and of God yet how often do you actually see any of this? how many actually walk in the power and authority in Christ? How many can truly say anything is possible with God? We would be living in a different dimension we would be different we would be alien to the world they wouldn't be able to scientifically explain the things they would see from us the spirit would be alive and every where we would go we would prove anything is possible not just teach it.
As I keep saying remember who you are remember what you called to be and to do and remember who it is you serve
For one so adament of the understanding of scripture did you ever consider we are in the last days spoken of in revelation the tribulation is not far off but consider that Jesus only had one church he spoke good of he had something against all the other churches and do you know what these churches represent?
If you cannot understand that much then your in no position to be so snarky your just making youself look foolish
If you cannot understand that much then your in no position to be so snarky your just making youself look foolish
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