Do you believe we are in the Tribulation right now?
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NOPE .... The tribulation will technically commence when this administration (dispensation) of grace and of the mystery ceases which will be at the gathering together unto Him of the Church of God the body of Christ.. There are a few key markers in the Word that designate that.
It also mean.... if we were in the tribulation.... then this period of the administration of grace has ceased along with everything it encompasses.
It also mean.... if we were in the tribulation.... then this period of the administration of grace has ceased along with everything it encompasses.
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The first five seal events began in the first century and have continued since then. The 6th and 7th seal events will be during Daniel's 70th week (future), and the reign on the Antichrist will be in the first half of that period. So no, we are NOT in the Tribulation period. But it may not be too far off.
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No, we are not in either tribulation period at this time. There are two tribulations, that of anti christ and that of the True Christ. That’s right my friends, in the not so far distant future, we have two supernatural entities appearing on earth, both will claim to be, Jesus Christ. Of course, one is a fake, but he is very skilled in deception, and he will deceive the whole world into believing he is the True Christ. Rev 12:9 Not necessary the entire world but at less 50% or more. There will two in the field, one take and one left, that’s 50%.
Anti christ is not coming to earth warring and killing, you would know he was anti christ, just the opposite, he will claim to be Jesus Christ, Son of the living God, and will perform signs and wonders before men to convince them he is, The Christ. You can bet, he will look like Christ and sound like Christ. Which Christ will you follow, the first or the second supernatural entity that appears on earth. Your very soul depends on this choice, Says he will deceive the whole world and many of those deceived will beg the mountains to fall on them, so ashamed to meet the Lamb of God, after they bowed their knee to anti christ, believing him to be the true Christ.
There will be no doubt in ones mind when either tribulation begins, These are supernatural beings appearing on earth and the cameras will be on them 24/7. The choice will be up to each and every individual, it won’t be made for you. The rapture is not automatic in selecting, each and everyone must make that choice on their own. Which Christ will you choose my friends. You very soul depends on your selection. Those that worship anti christ, even by mistake, will not take part in the first resurrection. It will a 1000 years later, after the millennium, before they get a chance at taking part in the second resurrection.
Anti christ is not coming to earth warring and killing, you would know he was anti christ, just the opposite, he will claim to be Jesus Christ, Son of the living God, and will perform signs and wonders before men to convince them he is, The Christ. You can bet, he will look like Christ and sound like Christ. Which Christ will you follow, the first or the second supernatural entity that appears on earth. Your very soul depends on this choice, Says he will deceive the whole world and many of those deceived will beg the mountains to fall on them, so ashamed to meet the Lamb of God, after they bowed their knee to anti christ, believing him to be the true Christ.
There will be no doubt in ones mind when either tribulation begins, These are supernatural beings appearing on earth and the cameras will be on them 24/7. The choice will be up to each and every individual, it won’t be made for you. The rapture is not automatic in selecting, each and everyone must make that choice on their own. Which Christ will you choose my friends. You very soul depends on your selection. Those that worship anti christ, even by mistake, will not take part in the first resurrection. It will a 1000 years later, after the millennium, before they get a chance at taking part in the second resurrection.
We just had a world war not too long ago, that could qualify as taking peace from the earth, but the little wars we got going on today? Not even a bit, unless we mean peace as in people feeling peaceful, cause if that is the case there has never been peace on this earth.
Unfortunately these 'christian youtubers' are either just sincerely mistaken or plants by the devil to lead non-believers and believers alike into disbelief. Why? Because as they are inevitable wrong every single time they predict or say something, it will cause the believers to doubt the message completely and the unbelievers to just laugh at these walking infernos of misinformation.
I remember the 2021 September rapture nonsense, the 1988 return, the 2012, the 2011 May, and on and on it goes. People have been doing this for centuries only to be looked at like the fools that they are.
Jesus is coming back. When? We don't know. I would say "soon" as I see the world is going to hell in a handbasket with all the UNSEEN (key word, unseen) madness like the transLGBT agenda and the destruction of the family and the rapid speed of technological development. I see these as major "leads" we are in the last days of the last days. Because these things are never before seen on this scale. The technology in Jesus' day was pretty much the same that it was thousands of years during Moses' day. Now compare technology in the 1950s to today, its a completely different world in such a short period
Unfortunately these 'christian youtubers' are either just sincerely mistaken or plants by the devil to lead non-believers and believers alike into disbelief. Why? Because as they are inevitable wrong every single time they predict or say something, it will cause the believers to doubt the message completely and the unbelievers to just laugh at these walking infernos of misinformation.
I remember the 2021 September rapture nonsense, the 1988 return, the 2012, the 2011 May, and on and on it goes. People have been doing this for centuries only to be looked at like the fools that they are.
Jesus is coming back. When? We don't know. I would say "soon" as I see the world is going to hell in a handbasket with all the UNSEEN (key word, unseen) madness like the transLGBT agenda and the destruction of the family and the rapid speed of technological development. I see these as major "leads" we are in the last days of the last days. Because these things are never before seen on this scale. The technology in Jesus' day was pretty much the same that it was thousands of years during Moses' day. Now compare technology in the 1950s to today, its a completely different world in such a short period
I believe we're in the beginning of sorrows (or birth pains) spoken of by Jesus in Matthew 24:4-8:
"And Jesus answered and said to them: Take heed that no one deceives you. For many will come in My name, saying, I am the Christ, and will deceive many. And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not troubled; for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines, pestilences, and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of sorrows."
These signs could correspond to the first four seals of the scroll in Revelation 6; there a many similarities. For the record, I'm not pre-trib; I'm pre-wrath.-
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ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! i don't know what the big deal is on this. the Bible is very clear in the order of events. 1st Thessalonians chapter 4 verses 13-18. READ IT EVERYBODY!! correlate that with 1st Thessalonians 5:9- "FOR GOD HATH NOT APPOINTED MAN TO WRATH....." & Romans 5:8,9 ".... WE SHALL BE SAVED FROM WRATH THRU HIM"!!! what's the sense in being saved if Christians are going to be here during the tribulation? what are you saved from? nothing is the answer. imagine atheists & Christians here for the tribulation. doesn't make sense!!!!
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The current events certainly line up with the warning Jesus issued, war and rumor of war, etc.
You can see aspects of 1 thru 4 seals occuring now as well.
I cant say whether or not this is the events reported in the Revelation of John.
All i can tell you is things will get rough before its over, so we had better be praying.
You can see aspects of 1 thru 4 seals occuring now as well.
I cant say whether or not this is the events reported in the Revelation of John.
All i can tell you is things will get rough before its over, so we had better be praying.
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What about the two witnesses? Is this the beginning of the 7 years or in the middle of the 7 years? Will the whole world know they are in action because they withhold rain for 3 1/2 years? Between the floods and droughts and fires and weather phenomenal activity, volcano, earthquake, tsunami, tornadoes, astroids falling from the heavens, large hail coming down, etc. and the two witnesses withholding rain, that would be a period of tribulation.
Rev_11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
I study the calendar with a view of starting events. 2020 was the middle of the final jubilee cycle. W.H.O. ordered a lockdown on the whole world. One could view that event on March 11, 2020 as a starting point for tribulation. However, there is another event that hit over 60 countries and that was triggered by the George Floyd murder and riots of 2020. This occured on May 25, 2020. In Daniel we find three verses with a counting of days.
Dan_8:14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
Dan_12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
Dan_12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
Starting with the 2300 days and start with May 25, 2020 brings you to September 11, 2026. At this point the two witnesses begin prophesying for 3 1/2 years. They are killed on 1256th day and lay dead for 3 1/2 days before standing alive and being called up. That date falls on February 18, 2030 thru February 21, 2030. February 18, 2030 is Shushan Purim and the tradition is to give gifts.
Rev_11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
From that day of being called up hither, count to 1335 days. February 20, 2030 Plus 1335 days = October 16, 2033/Tishri 23. Tishri 22 is the Last Great Eighth Day which is at the end of Feast of Tabernacles on Tishri 21.
Dan_12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
This is one theory that the end of the great tribulation will end on October 16, 2033. This is 11 years before the end of this final jubilee cycle we are now in.
So which of these dates here in the last days are we not to know the day and hour? That is a Hebrew idiom for the 1st day of the 7th month/Feast of Trumpets.
Rev_11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
I study the calendar with a view of starting events. 2020 was the middle of the final jubilee cycle. W.H.O. ordered a lockdown on the whole world. One could view that event on March 11, 2020 as a starting point for tribulation. However, there is another event that hit over 60 countries and that was triggered by the George Floyd murder and riots of 2020. This occured on May 25, 2020. In Daniel we find three verses with a counting of days.
Dan_8:14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
Dan_12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
Dan_12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
Starting with the 2300 days and start with May 25, 2020 brings you to September 11, 2026. At this point the two witnesses begin prophesying for 3 1/2 years. They are killed on 1256th day and lay dead for 3 1/2 days before standing alive and being called up. That date falls on February 18, 2030 thru February 21, 2030. February 18, 2030 is Shushan Purim and the tradition is to give gifts.
Rev_11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
From that day of being called up hither, count to 1335 days. February 20, 2030 Plus 1335 days = October 16, 2033/Tishri 23. Tishri 22 is the Last Great Eighth Day which is at the end of Feast of Tabernacles on Tishri 21.
Dan_12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
This is one theory that the end of the great tribulation will end on October 16, 2033. This is 11 years before the end of this final jubilee cycle we are now in.
So which of these dates here in the last days are we not to know the day and hour? That is a Hebrew idiom for the 1st day of the 7th month/Feast of Trumpets.
You must seek the LORD sincerely with all your heart. He will guide you into All Truth.
Do not base your judgment on what any person says. Be a Noble Berean and search the scriptures, being led by the Holy Spirit.
Trust in the LORD and be wise. For the wise shall understand but the wicked will never understand.
There are many things that have been taught in Christendom that do not line up with what the scriptures actually say all because men listen to men and do not test all things these errors have gained a foot hold.
I do believe we are at the beginning of sorrows or tribulation. It will only get worse and there will be great deception.
Stay upon your GOD.
Do not base your judgment on what any person says. Be a Noble Berean and search the scriptures, being led by the Holy Spirit.
Trust in the LORD and be wise. For the wise shall understand but the wicked will never understand.
There are many things that have been taught in Christendom that do not line up with what the scriptures actually say all because men listen to men and do not test all things these errors have gained a foot hold.
I do believe we are at the beginning of sorrows or tribulation. It will only get worse and there will be great deception.
Stay upon your GOD.
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