Do you believe we are in the Tribulation right now?

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Artios1

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cv5

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because someone sitting on a temple throne is not WRATH, what follows is WRATH. we will be gone. Raptured! Pre-Wrath!
Pattern recognition is a gift that some possess in abundance. And some do not.....:cautious:

See the 24 elders of Rev 4 & 5. That is us, pre-man of sin, pre-seals, pre-trib, pre-wrath, pre-everything from Rev 6 onward.


Rev 5:6
And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
Rev 5:7
And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
Rev 5:8
And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
Rev 5:9
And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Rev 5:10
And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
 

Pilgrimshope

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because someone sitting on a temple throne is not WRATH, what follows is WRATH. we will be gone. Raptured! Pre-Wrath!
Post trib and pre wrath , exactly the wrath is the moment the fire destroys the earth the tribulation is what leads up to that day
 
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Pattern recognition is a gift that some possess in abundance. And some do not.....:cautious:

See the 24 elders of Rev 4 & 5. That is us, pre-man of sin, pre-seals, pre-trib, pre-wrath, pre-everything from Rev 6 onward.


Rev 5:6
And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
Rev 5:7
And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
Rev 5:8
And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
Rev 5:9
And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Rev 5:10
And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
I created 2 posts, but see you ignored my 2nd post, since it addresses clearly being gone Pre Wrath is being Raptured before the time is at hand when the man of sin is fulfilling prophecy on the Temple Throne.
 

cv5

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I created 2 posts, but see you ignored my 2nd post, since it addresses clearly being gone Pre Wrath is being Raptured before the time is at hand when the man of sin is fulfilling prophecy on the Temple Throne.
Saw it. But I definitely do not agree with your 3-1/2 years into the trib pre-wrath theory.

We are long gone by then.....

Rev 4:4
And around the throne are thrones twenty and four, and upon the thrones I saw the twenty and four elders sitting, clothed in white garments, and they had upon their heads crowns of gold;

Rev 5:7
And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.

SEALS NOT OPENED YET!

Rev 5:8
And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
Rev 5:9
And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Rev 5:10
And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
 
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Saw it. But I definitely do not agree with your 3-1/2 years into the trib pre-wrath theory.

We are long gone by then.....

Rev 4:4
And around the throne are thrones twenty and four, and upon the thrones I saw the twenty and four elders sitting, clothed in white garments, and they had upon their heads crowns of gold;

Rev 5:7
And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.

SEALS NOT OPENED YET!

Rev 5:8
And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
Rev 5:9
And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Rev 5:10
And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
you act like when the factual year 5,993 takes place.../... Rapture!

That is not Biblical at ALL!

what is Biblical and Factual is Birthing Pangs ends just before Mid Way Point.
we are safe as long as we are in Birthing Pangs.

we've been that way [since] half way through Philadelphia and now almost 30 years into Laodecia for a perfect 50 year mark jubilee.

as long as birthing Pangs continues to ALMOST 3 1/2 year mark, even my own belief of TWO (2) year mark into 7 years, we are SAFE and still under GRACE and have no need to be concerned about WRATH. therefore, we are in NO DANGER for the first couple years of the 7 year Tribulation. God saves us from WRATH, not when we are still having PICNICS in the Park!!