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Is there anyone that keeps The Sabbath Day Holy, from Sunset on the 6th. Day/Friday until The ending of The 7th. Day at Sunset, on Saturday by The Gregorian Calendar.

If so being on one accord for that event to happen, We want to thank God for your Faith in doing just that as a start to perfection. Every Sabbath , Sabbath Scriptures: About Sabbath Scriptures , Sabbath Day In The KJV

Sabbath Day, Please Read all.

Sabbaths , Judging one another about the Sabbath .

I have reason to believe of the above study, that The Sabbaths and the Feast Days/Holy Convocations goes together for his/Jesus customs as him and The Apostles, went in the synagogues. Luke 4:16 , Acts 17:2

Acts 17:2

Righteousness is a position. When you become saved you are considered in right standing with God. ... Holiness is the quality of being holy,a life that is full of godly character.Righteousness is to be upright in God, to be blamless. A righteousness man is also a holy man,both of them works together.

Ephesians 4 KJV

Love, Walter and Debbie
 
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Jesus is my Sabbath rest .:)


Matthew 11:28-30
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Walter said:
Is there anyone that keeps The Sabbath Day Holy, from Sunset on the 6th. Day/Friday until The ending of The 7th. Day at Sunset, on Saturday by The Gregorian Calendar.
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Sure. Unsaved Jews do it all the time. So what's your point? And why have you forgotten the Lord's Day?
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
Sure. Unsaved Jews do it all the time. So what's your point? And why have you forgotten the Lord's Day?
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Are you referring to Rev 1:10?

Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

John wasn’t talking about Sunday.. The “Lord’s day” is a different phrasing for “the day of the Lord.” John got revelation about the future, which is what Revelation is all about.
 
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VARob said:
Are you referring to Rev 1:10?

Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

John wasn’t talking about Sunday.. The “Lord’s day” is a different phrasing for “the day of the Lord.” John got revelation about the future, which is what Revelation is all about.
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Why do you believe the Lord's Day and the day of the Lord are equivalent?
 
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Cameron143 said:
Why do you believe the Lord's Day and the day of the Lord are equivalent?
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What’s Revelation about?

Why do people think the Lord’s day is Sunday?

That’s it for me tonight. Catch y’all tomorrow.
 
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VARob said:
What’s Revelation about?

Why do people think the Lord’s day is Sunday?

That’s it for me tonight. Catch y’all tomorrow.
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The Lord's day is referring to a particular day of the week. The day of the Lord appears to be a future day that God will bring judgment.
 
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VARob said:
John wasn’t talking about Sunday.. The “Lord’s day” is a different phrasing for “the day of the Lord.” John got revelation about the future, which is what Revelation is all about.
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Totally incorrect. You need to understand the HUGE DIFFERENCE between "the Lord's Day" (the first day of the week) and "the day of the LORD" (a period of divine judgments). John was certainly not confused, but it seems that you are. John was "in the Spirit" on the Lord's Day. Now take a look at what "the day of the LORD" is all about.

Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand; A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations. (Joel 2:1,2 and there are dozens of similar verses).
 
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Cameron143 said:
The Lord's day is referring to a particular day of the week. The day of the Lord appears to be a future day that God will bring judgment.
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Based on what?

ttyt, I’m out.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
Totally incorrect. You need to understand the HUGE DIFFERENCE between "the Lord's Day" (the first day of the week) and "the day of the LORD" (a period of divine judgments). John was certainly not confused, but it seems that you are. John was "in the Spirit" on the Lord's Day. Now take a look at what "the day of the LORD" is all about.

Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand; A day of darkness and of gloominess, a day of clouds and of thick darkness, as the morning spread upon the mountains: a great people and a strong; there hath not been ever the like, neither shall be any more after it, even to the years of many generations. (Joel 2:1,2 and there are dozens of similar verses).
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What in the heck do you think Revelation is all about?

Good night.
 
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VARob said:
Based on what?

ttyt, I’m out.
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Blessings. Perhaps you will respond tomorrow. Actually Nehemiah6's post above while somewhat caustic contains my thoughts on the subject.
 
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VARob said:
What in the heck do you think Revelation is all about?
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And what do you think "the Lord's Day" is all about? Study up on it and get back to us about how it has been understood for centuries.

JOHN GILL'S COMMENTARY ON "THE LORD'S DAY"
I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day,.... Not on the Jewish sabbath, which was now abolished, nor was that ever called the Lord's day, and had John meant that, he would have said on the sabbath day; much less the Jewish passover, but the first day of the week is designed; so the Ethiopic version renders it "on the first day"; and is so called just as the ordinance of the supper is called the Lord's supper, being instituted by the Lord, and the Lord's table, 1 Corinthians 10:21, and that because it was the day in which our Lord rose from the dead, Mark 16:9; and in which he appeared at different times to his disciples, John 20:19, and which the primitive churches set apart for his worship and service, and on which they met together to hear the word, and attend on ordinances, Acts 20:7;

And Justin Martyr (z) tells us, who lived within about fifty years after this time, that on the day called , "Sunday", (by the Greeks,) the Christians met together in one place, and read the Scriptures, and prayed together, and administered the ordinance of the supper; and this, he adds, was the first day in which God created the World, and our Saviour Jesus Christ rose from the dead; yea, Barnabas (a), the companion of the Apostle Paul, calls this day the eighth day, in distinction from the seventh day sabbath of the Jews, and which he says is the beginning of another world; and therefore we keep the eighth day, adds he, joyfully, in which Jesus rose from the dead, and being manifested, ascended unto heaven: and this day was known by the ancients by the name of "the Lord's day"; as by Ignatius (b), Irenaeus (c), Tertullian (d), Origen (e), and others; for it must be some day that was known by this name, otherwise it is mentioned to no purpose, because it would not be distinctive from others; for which reason it cannot merely design the day in which John saw this vision, because the Lord appeared on it to him, for this would not distinguish it from any other day...
 
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The creation was formed in six days by our Maker, the Creator, and on the Seventh Day He rested. He sanctified the Seventh day as a day to be kept such. No intellectual may change the order of the creation for it is written and it is so.

When it was made such, the law had not yet come into the fore. It is man who changed that day from the seventh day to the first day of the week. Do not tamper with the "Word of Elohom.
 
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In a discussion about the sabbath, a lot of people get two things mixed up. The Sabbath day and the Sabbath Rest.

When discussion the Sabbath Day they say I don't need to keep it because I have entered into my Sabbath rest. But they are quite different things. Our Sabbath Rest cones through salvation as we cease from our works to obtain salvation.

The Sabbath Day is the seventh day of the week where we cease from our daily labour but which we take up again on the first day of the week.
 
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mustaphadrink said:
The Sabbath Day is the seventh day of the week where we cease from our daily labour but which we take up again on the first day of the week.
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The seventh day Sabbath was given to Israel, and unsaved Jews still observe this day. But the Lord's Day (the first day of the week or the eighth day) was given to Christians because Christ arose on that day.

So you can either identify with Christians or with unsaved Jews or with Seventh Day Adventists (there are also a few Seventh Day Baptists). Adventists have a mixture of true and false teachings, since Ellen G. White still holds sway over that denomination.
 
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Jesus is our Sabbath, keeping the Sabbath now means resting in Christ in all that you do.
 
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The early church began meeting on the first day of the week for "the breaking or bread" or as we call it communion, because it is resurrectionday or "the Lord's Day". This became church day. Thats one reason we celebrate on the first day of the week. Another is that Christ is our Sabbath and our rest, so we are not bound to the elemental things of this earth; sabbaths, new moons, or feast days.
 
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Nehemiah6 said:
The seventh day Sabbath was given to Israel, and unsaved Jews still observe this day. But the Lord's Day (the first day of the week or the eighth day) was given to Christians because Christ arose on that day.
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That is at best an inference from a narrative section of Scripture, not a clear direction from the Lord.
 
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Heb 3 and 4 speak of entering into God's rest and can be summed up in Heb 4: 8-11 KJV "For if Jesus has given them reset, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. There remaineth therefore a rest for the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Let us labor therefore to enter into that rest, least any man fall after the same example of unbelief."
 
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