Well, that's my point... many people, many opinions, see?
Rarely (if ever) have I seen this topic discussed where everyone is on the same page.
Rarely (if ever) have I seen this topic discussed where everyone is on the same page.
https://christianchat.com/threads/what-about-gen-6.208962/post-5030139
"There are many problems with that view. I will point out a few of them.
1) God pronouncing judgement and the destruction of the ENTIRE WORLD for the trivial supposed sin of blue bloods marrying so-called lower classes makes no sense whatsoever. And woefully impugns the character of God IMO.
2) There is not one single case post flood of God rendering devastating judgement for such a supposed sin. Yes, the offspring of Abraham and Israel were to maintain their integrity in this regard. But this was with respect to religion.....not RANK. And there is nothing said and no warning whatsoever as far as gentiles and the Church is concerned.
3) There WERE in fact real literal (six-fingered and toed) inhuman giants NOTED from at least Abraham and undoubtedly earlier.
"Really? Well then why was it so that these "heightened humans" were specifically marked out for wholesale EXTERMINATION like cockroaches by Chedorlaomer, Edom, Moab, Moses, Joshua, Caleb......and by the command of YHVH at the conquest of Canaan? These INHUMAN HYBRID GIANTS were so alien that marking them out, seeking them out, then killing them was always prescribed."
https://christianchat.com/threads/what-about-gen-6.208962/post-5025006
4) 2Pet 2:4-6 "angelos", 1Pet 3:19-20 "pneuma", Jude 1:6 "angelos" and Genesis 6 "benai elohim". Why is the term "men" or anything like it not used in four distinct places? Because men are not in view here. Slam dunk.
5) https://christianchat.com/threads/nephelim.208229/post-4966042
"1Pe 3:19
By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
Actually.....the correct term is PROCLAIM. Jesus is not preaching the gospel.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g2784/kjv/tr/0-1/
Jesus is proclaiming His victory to fallen angels in Tartarus.
2Pe 2:4
For if God messengers who sinned did not spare, but with chains of thick gloom, having cast them down to Tartarus, did deliver them to judgment, having been reserved, "
6) https://christianchat.com/threads/what-about-gen-6.208962/post-5024447
Evidently the Jude 1:6 angels took a downgrade (to satisfy their ungodly lust), while we Christians are gifted with an upgrade.
G3613 - oikētērion - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv) (blueletterbible.org)
The KJV translates Strong's G3613 in the following manner: house (1x), habitation (1x).
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]
- a dwelling place, habitation
- of the body as a dwelling place for the spirit
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, G3613 he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
2Co 5:2
For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house G3613 which is from heaven:
THAT dear friends is an overwhelming case confirming that yes, fallen angels were the culprit."
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