Why Moses and Elijah were at the transfiguration.

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Magenta

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You do not believe that the "soul/spirit" is immortal?
You don't believe that God alone is immortal? See 1 Timothy 6:16.

New International Version
who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom
no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen.


New Living Translation
He alone can never die, and he lives in light so brilliant that no human can approach him.
No human eye has ever seen him, nor ever will. All honor and power to him forever! Amen.


English Standard Version
who alone has immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, whom no
one has ever
seen or can see. To him be honor and eternal dominion. Amen.

Berean Standard Bible
He alone is immortal and dwells in unapproachable light. No one has ever seen
Him, nor can anyone see Him. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen.


Berean Literal Bible
alone having immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no one of men
has seen nor is able to see, to whom be honor and eternal dominion. Amen.


King James Bible
Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto;
whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.


New King James Version
who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no
man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen.


New American Standard Bible
who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom
no one has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen.


NASB 1995
who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom
no man has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen.


NASB 1977
who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light; whom
no man has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen.


Legacy Standard Bible
who alone has immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom
no man has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal might! Amen.


Amplified Bible
He alone possesses immortality [absolute exemption from death] and lives in unapproachable light,
whom no man has ever seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal power and dominion! Amen.


Christian Standard Bible
who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom
no one has seen or can see, to him be honor and eternal power. Amen.


Holman Christian Standard Bible
the only One who has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light; no
one has seen or can see Him, to Him be honor and eternal might. Amen.


American Standard Version
who only hath immortality, dwelling in light unapproachable; whom no
man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and power eternal. Amen.


Aramaic Bible in Plain English
He who alone is uncorrupted and dwelling in light that a human cannot approach and which none of the
children of men has seen, nor can see, to whom be honor and authority to the eternity of eternities. Amen.


Contemporary English Version
Only God lives forever! And he lives in light that no one can come near. No human has ever
seen God or ever can see him. God will be honored, and his power will last forever. Amen.


Douay-Rheims Bible
Who only hath immortality, and inhabiteth light inaccessible, whom no man
hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and empire everlasting. Amen.


English Revised Version
who only hath immortality, dwelling in light unapproachable; whom no man
hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power eternal. Amen.


GOD'S WORD® Translation
He is the only one who cannot die. He lives in light that no one can come near. No one
has seen him, nor can they see him. Honor and power belong to him forever! Amen.


Good News Translation
He alone is immortal; he lives in the light that no one can approach. No one has
ever seen him; no one can ever see him. To him be honor and eternal power! Amen.


International Standard Version
He alone has endless life and lives in inaccessible light. No one has ever seen
him, nor can anyone see him. Honor and eternal power belong to him! Amen.


Literal Standard Version
having immortality alone, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no one of
men saw, nor is able to see, to whom [is] honor and perpetual might! Amen.


Majority Standard Bible
He alone is immortal and dwells in unapproachable light. No one has ever seen
Him, nor can anyone see Him. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen.


New American Bible
who alone has immortality, who dwells in unapproachable light, and whom
no human being has seen or can see. To him be honor and eternal power. Amen.


NET Bible
He alone possesses immortality and lives in unapproachable light, whom no
human has ever seen or is able to see. To him be honor and eternal power! Amen.


New Revised Standard Version
It is he alone who has immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom
no one has ever seen or can see; to him be honor and eternal dominion. Amen.


New Heart English Bible
who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light; whom no
human has seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and eternal power. Amen.


Webster's Bible Translation
Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach; whom
no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honor and power everlasting. Amen.


Weymouth New Testament
who alone possesses immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, and whom
no man has seen or can see. To Him be eternal honour and power! Amen.


World English Bible
He alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no
man has seen nor can see, to whom be honor and eternal power. Amen.


Young's Literal Translation
who only is having immortality, dwelling in light unapproachable, whom no one
of men did see, nor is able to see, to whom is honour and might age-during! Amen.
 

Magenta

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What was your view of fallen angels? I cannot presently recall....
Please excuse my last post to you, as I did not mean to rehash all of that with
you again, and did not realize I was on a page that was a few back from present...
 

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Please excuse my last post to you, as I did not mean to rehash all of that with
you again, and did not realize I was on a page that was a few back from present...
No problem sister. No offense taken.
 

Magenta

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There is hope for you yet.
I like to say (type) prolly, also. But I would prolly not if Scripture was the subject matter .:unsure::giggle:

I saw someone say once that they hated it when people did that. Eh? Really?? Hate??? .:oops::LOL:
 

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The reason they were there was to represent the water and the blood.
Elijah, the water, and Moses, the blood.They were standing along with Jesus as The Two Witnesses.Which are the covenants.
So on Mount Tabor you have the Spirit(Jesus) water(Elijah) and blood. (Moses)

The first shall be last,and the last first.
Moses(blood) was before Elijah.(water) Get it?

Matthew 17:5
While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

Revelation 19:10
And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

Some people say "so and so are the Two Witnesses because they represent the Law and the Prophets"
At the end of that road it all leads to his covenants.His Two Witnesses.They were there at the transfiguration of Jesus.And will be there at the transfiguration of the 144,000.Who will give the testimony of The Two Witnesses.And those who hear,and believe will be transfigured.
I have a few different takes on this but the most glaring of how I would read and understand this. Is that it was indisputable divine confirmation. The day before chapter 16, Christ had asked who do men say I am and their answer was Elijah or one of the prophets. Peter when asked who he saw Jesus as he said the Christ the son of God. Christ let him know the Father had revealed that. So the next day God confirmed again that Christ was the son.

They saw with their own eyes the prophet's and the son and heard God himself say that Christ was his son. So God confirmed and revealed even more so the next day what he had revealed the day prior. They being Jews would have also placed upmost importance on what the prophets said.

So God was showing the authority of the son and his words much more authoritative. As when the son and the prophet's were gathered in one place God said hear his son. So God was confirming Christ was the son and he had final authoritative power and say.
 
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I have a few different takes on this but the most glaring of how I would read and understand this. Is that it was indisputable divine confirmation. The day before chapter 16, Christ had asked who do men say I am and their answer was Elijah or one of the prophets. Peter when asked who he saw Jesus as he said the Christ the son of God. Christ let him know the Father had revealed that. So the next day God confirmed again that Christ was the son.

They saw with their own eyes the prophet's and the son and heard God himself say that Christ was his son. So God confirmed and revealed even more so the next day what he had revealed the day prior. They being Jews would have also placed upmost importance on what the prophets said.

So God was showing the authority of the son and his words much more authoritative. As when the son and the prophet's were gathered in one place God said hear his son. So God was confirming Christ was the son and he had final authoritative power and say.
1God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; 4Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
 
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If the spirit of God was at mount Sinai that makes him the water.Jesus is the blood.But the father has given everything unto the Son.

Ephesians 1:20-23
Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all.

The Holy Spirit that comes in the name of Jesus is in you.That's the mercy seat.The head of the church is Jesus.That's the blood.The water is the feet.Jesus is on the right hand of the father like it says in scripture.

Another thing is when Moses holds up the serpent on the pole,he is holding the branch.Jesus says he'll raise it up.Meaning he'll raise up the corrupted body/brazen serpent.Then he says he'll raise him up,meaning he'll raise you up, like he did the serpent.

When he says he'll raise you up.the pole is raising up the serpent.It's the image of the branch.And Moses holds the branch.So he's at the transfiguration as the blood.Elijah is there as the water.The Two Witnesses=water and the blood, and the 144,000 hold the testimony.
They are put to death and refused burial afterwards.