how did Satan manage to appear as a snake.

[Happy_hobnob]

A man dies and arrives at Heaven
Long
As he's standing at the Pearly Gates, he notices a huge wall of clocks behind St Peter.
He asked, "What are all those clocks?"
St Peter replied, "Those are lie clocks, every time someone tells a lie, the hands on their clock move."
"Oh! Whose clock is that?" He says pointing.
"That's Mother Theresa's clock, it's hands have never moved."
"Wow! And whose clock is that?"
"That's Abraham Lincoln's clock, it's hands have only moved twice."
The man asks, "Where is____________ clock?"
St Peter replies, "We're using it as a ceiling fan"
To be fair just fill in the blank

yes, poor borris your quite right, the blank should be Satan's. Names,.

 

[Happy_hobnob]

All timezones are equal and shouldn't be shamed
Greenwich is just mean

 

[maxwel]

Just some thoughts, but when Gods steps into our time zone in person, he may be out of his comfort zone and time zone, and not be to happy he has once again had to leave heavens time zone. And this is why we see his wrath.

SPECULATION:
There's nothing wrong with speculating, but if those speculations have clear answers, then we need to embrace those clear answers.



SOLUTION - Study of God's Attributes:
- The solution to a great many misunderstandings is to study theology, and God's attributes, in some kind of careful or systematic way.
- The very foundation of theology is the study of God's attributes, this is called "theology proper."
- A good understanding of God's attributes (which constitute his nature) gives us a good foundation to sort through all kinds of theological problems and issues.



ANSWERS - A Few Answers to the Speculations, Using God's Attributes:

"when God steps into our time zone in person, he may be out of his comfort zone and time zone"

1.) GOD IS SPIRIT:
God never steps into our time zone because he doesn't have feet, and he is non-spatial... he is a spirit.
John 4:24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.

2.) NON-CORPOREAL and OMNIPRESENT:
God never steps into our time zone because he is non-localized, and omnipresent... he is not in any particular place, but he maintains a presence in all places.
Jeremiah 23:24 Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the LORD. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the LORD.

3.) IMMUTABLE:
God never steps out of his comfort zone because he is never in need of comfort... he is unchanging.
Malachi 3:6 “For I the LORD do not change; therefore you, O children of Jacob, are not consumed.



My answers here were very brief and imperfect, but a thorough study of God's attributes will resolve a great number of issues.
God Bless.


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[montana123]

Hi all I'm not really interested about this, but my friends brother needs help, I'm very concerned at the moment,.

Can Satan manipulate matter to appear as anything he likes,

He's invincible, but does that mean he manipulates dark matter, to clone and mimick fresh air ? or anything or any person or animal, so much so you would think it was a real snake.

He can appear as light, but does that mean he manipulates matter to clone and mimick light,

Satan is not invincible for he is a created being and the saints that are with Jesus is greater than him for Jesus is their power to defeat him.

Greater is He that is in you then he that is in the world.

Angels are greater than people in power but when the saints have their glorified body they will be greater in power than the angels, and the saints will have a higher position in heaven.

The angels are ministering spirits to minister to the saints, and the angels desire to look in to the salvation of the saints.

Creation is all for people with the man Christ Jesus being the top person, and angels are servants.

I do not believe Satan can take any form he wants for he would use that tactic but he probably spoke through the snake but did not take the form of a snake.

I do not believe Satan can manipulate matter and form what he wants like God can.

Satan cannot read minds for he does not have the ability to do that like people can not read television and radio signals with their mind.

Satan appears as an angel of light has nothing to do with light but it means he appears as something good but it is not.

Like the new age movement that believes Lucifer is a solar angel that descended from Venus to Earth to bring the principle of mind to the then animal-man, and will help mankind to evolve to be spiritual in the future.

They believe aliens are going to help mankind to have peace on Earth, and there are aliens on Earth.

Which Science says humans are not from the Earth so they are aliens, and the world needs to prepare for an alien encounter.

They want to convince the world that Lucifer is a god, and alien, and wants to help mankind to have peace and evolve, and they talk about the return of the gods that they helped civilization in the past to advance, and will help mankind to advance in the future.

But these aliens are the fallen angels that are deceiving them which God said their beliefs are of seducing spirits and doctrines of devils, and their conscious is seared with a hot iron for they will go against all people who oppose them believing they are doing the will of nature they call the God of forces.

The time will come the world will not want to hear the Bible according to the truth but according to their own lusts the new age movement.

The devils are going to cause mankind to rebel against God on a world wide scale by causing the world to establish the new age movement in the world, and nothing can be taught contrary to it and then He will end sin on Earth.

Which is what causes the great tribulation in which they go against the Gospel, and the belief in a God which Christianity, Islam, and Judaism is their biggest enemies.

So Satan is appearing as an angel of light to them but it is a deception.

I do not believe Satan can take any form he wants, and cannot form matter in to what he wants, and cannot read minds, for God would not give him that ability for those attributes are only attributed to God not to a created being.

God said the nations are nothing, and less than nothing, to show how great He is in comparison to people, and Satan is a weak, and frail being compared to God, and Satan cannot harm the saints for they are with Jesus.

God has power over matter and could disperse Satan back to matter if He wanted to do that.

 

[montana123]

Just some thoughts, but when Gods steps into our time zone in person, he may be out of his comfort zone and time zone, and not be to happy he has once again had to leave heavens time zone. And this is why we see his wrath.

I am sorry but this seems silly and God does not have to step in to our time zone for He is already here.

God does not have to move for He is already there because He is an omnipresent Spirit.

Unless you mean a visible manifestation but then He still did not have to move for He is already here.

Time is not a universal principle but only applies to this creation to keep schedule of things, and events, with the sun being the measuring tool which measures a day, and then we break it down to hours, minutes, and seconds, and build it up to weeks, months, and years.

Time is a creation, and before the creation there was no time for all things go on the same and things are not scheduled, and the Bible says in the future time will be no more for when this Earth and heaven passes away everything goes on the same and things are not scheduled.

Time is only for the Earth and not a universal principle.

The same as there is no space which people look up at the sky and say oh look space, oh no but look God, for there is no space for God is an omnipresent Spirit so there is not a place He is not dwelling.

We are in God and we have our movement and being because of Him.

 

[Happy_hobnob]

SPECULATION:
There's nothing wrong with speculating, but if those speculations have clear answers, then we need to embrace those clear answers.



SOLUTION - Study of God's Attributes:
- The solution to a great many misunderstandings is to study theology, and God's attributes, in some kind of careful or systematic way.
- The very foundation of theology is the study of God's attributes, this is called "theology proper."
- A good understanding of God's attributes (which constitute his nature) gives us a good foundation to sort through all kinds of theological problems and issues.



ANSWERS - A Few Answers to the Speculations, Using God's Attributes:

"when God steps into our time zone in person, he may be out of his comfort zone and time zone"

1.) GOD IS SPIRIT:
God never steps into our time zone because he doesn't have feet, and he is non-spatial... he is a spirit.
John 4:24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.

2.) NON-CORPOREAL and OMNIPRESENT:
God never steps into our time zone because he is non-localized, and omnipresent... he is not in any particular place, but he maintains a presence in all places.
Jeremiah 23:24 Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the LORD. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the LORD.

3.) IMMUTABLE:
God never steps out of his comfort zone because he is never in need of comfort... he is unchanging.
Malachi 3:6 “For I the LORD do not change; therefore you, O children of Jacob, are not consumed.



My answers here were very brief and imperfect, but a thorough study of God's attributes will resolve a great number of issues.
God Bless.


.

My dear brother Your equating our time zone to be completely the same as God's I think on the bases he is everywhere and everything so he has no need to step into different time zones, but I have all ready suggested God is everywhere and everything but yet time zones are different or can be, in a previous post I mentioned this. The difference being one day to God can also be equal to a thousand years to the lord,

Yes We can talk about speculating but we can not be ignorant of this fact.

You have to conceive that if we where in identical time zones in mind body and spirit as God the person and mind we would be experiencing 1 day lasting a thousand years, Now please don't say that is not true or speculating because that would be ignorant of what the bible clearly teaches us. If we look into once upon time mankind was living 700 years, so what changed for that to happen, this is where we can speculate, was it speeds in which our planet orbits our sun was changed or the human biological clock was changed, or was it something else. Could the first option alter our time zone.

Let's speculate some more, could your spirit stay in the same time zone as God but your mind not.

Could that be the same for God, could Gods spirit be everywhere but his mind not,

happy speculating dear.

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

Sunday school and, I was concerned that's if it was Satan disguise as a snake that would mean he would have the ability to somehow perform miracles

And The bible states the satan CAN perform lying miracles (2 thess 2:9). the Roman Catholic "Marian apparitions" are a good example.

"Sunday School" not withstanding, there no reason to assume that the "Serpent" in Genesis bore any resemblance whatsoever to a "Snake" until after it was CURSED (one of only two things that were cursed - the Earth was the other thing).

 

[Happy_hobnob]

I am sorry but this seems silly and God does not have to step in to our time zone for He is already here.

God does not have to move for He is already there because He is an omnipresent Spirit.

Unless you mean a visible manifestation but then He still did not have to move for He is already here.

Time is not a universal principle but only applies to this creation to keep schedule of things, and events, with the sun being the measuring tool which measures a day, and then we break it down to hours, minutes, and seconds, and build it up to weeks, months, and years.

Time is a creation, and before the creation there was no time for all things go on the same and things are not scheduled, and the Bible says in the future time will be no more for when this Earth and heaven passes away everything goes on the same and things are not scheduled.

Time is only for the Earth and not a universal principle.

The same as there is no space which people look up at the sky and say oh look space, oh no but look God, for there is no space for God is an omnipresent Spirit so there is not a place He is not dwelling.

We are in God and we have our movement and being because of Him.

Do you know the diiference between expressing ideas and giving account. ?

I believe this topic can not be fully understood by experts

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

What else would it be? Obviously it probably had legs since it was cursed to crawl on its belly after the fall.

And obviously it had the ability to SPEAK and is said to be more "Subtle" than any other beast. Suffice to say the the serpent obviously bore no resemblance to the present day "snake". The Bible doesn't go into detail about its physical appearence.

 

[Bob-Carabbio]

Sunday school

SO no real source at all then.

 

[Happy_hobnob]

And The bible states the satan CAN perform lying miracles (2 thess 2:9). the Roman Catholic "Marian apparitions" are a good example.

"Sunday School" not withstanding, there no reason to assume that the "Serpent" in Genesis bore any resemblance whatsoever to a "Snake" until after it was CURSED (one of only two things that were cursed - the Earth was the other thing).

yep Satan cites scripture for his own purpose too.

 

[Happy_hobnob]

SO no real source at all then.

do you want an account for that

 

[HopeinHim98]

And obviously it had the ability to SPEAK and is said to be more "Subtle" than any other beast. Suffice to say the the serpent obviously bore no resemblance to the present day "snake". The Bible doesn't go into detail about its physical appearence.

I know that a sect called Branhamites believe the serpent was a creature that actually had physical relations with Eve. Cain and Abel were alleged twins and Cain was the alleged fruit of her union with the "serpent". Called the serpent seed doctrine. Definitely seems to be adding to and twisting the historical account in genesis.

 

[Happy_hobnob]

I am sorry but this seems silly and God does not have to step in to our time zone for He is already here.

God does not have to move for He is already there because He is an omnipresent Spirit.

Unless you mean a visible manifestation but then He still did not have to move for He is already here.

Time is not a universal principle but only applies to this creation to keep schedule of things, and events, with the sun being the measuring tool which measures a day, and then we break it down to hours, minutes, and seconds, and build it up to weeks, months, and years.

Time is a creation, and before the creation there was no time for all things go on the same and things are not scheduled, and the Bible says in the future time will be no more for when this Earth and heaven passes away everything goes on the same and things are not scheduled.

Time is only for the Earth and not a universal principle.

The same as there is no space which people look up at the sky and say oh look space, oh no but look God, for there is no space for God is an omnipresent Spirit so there is not a place He is not dwelling.

We are in God and we have our movement and being because of Him.

Expressing your ideas is good, the more ideas we have the better we can come to an understanding, yes we can try to understand the mechanics of our universe to understand God's marvels and wonders, but one things will always be missing until it is revealed, which is exactly how his many wonders work and how and why he does the things he does.
We can look to common similarities we have with God to understand.
One thing we do have in common with God is he created us in his image, so would it be inconceivable, to believe God has a mind a body and a spirit.

Would it now be inconceivable to think Gods spirit goes to different time zones but is mind not,

But how ever there could come a time when God the person in mind is needed for a visit to us or vice versa us to him,

This could happen in your dreams in healing or via teleportation.

 

[Happy_hobnob]

Healing in mind and healing in spirit, So many people where Healed in mind, that being the The body, the flesh, when Jesus was here, why was that so, Because God was with us in mind body and spirit. even so much that God healed 5000 people all at once with the bread of life if you understand the spiritual meaning to bread and fish feeding the 5000. The fish was the sovereign and the bread the life, both food from heaven,

If you understand 5000 where not just fed because they where hungry, or because Jesus wanted to perform a miracle, but because they where also healed of sickness that day.

But how could that happen a person being Healed of physical sickness, because Jesus Was God here with us in mind Body and spirit.

 

[oyster67]

What else would it be? Obviously it probably had legs since it was cursed to crawl on its belly after the fall.

A dragon. (Might have been blue. Who knows?)

 

[Cameron143]

A dragon. (Might have been blue. Who knows?)

He was blue because he lost his legs. Which turned out to be a pretty precarious position after sin. Adam blamed Eve, Eve blamed him, and he didn't have a leg to stand on.

 

[oyster67]

He was blue because he lost his legs. Which turned out to be a pretty precarious position after sin. Adam blamed Eve, Eve blamed him, and he didn't have a leg to stand on.

Adam lost more than a leg. God had spare rib for dinner.

 

[Happy_hobnob]

Satan is not invincible.

I have already explained i did not mean to write invincible, miss typo. It should have been invisible.

 

[SilverFox7]

He was blue because he lost his legs. Which turned out to be a pretty precarious position after sin. Adam blamed Eve, Eve blamed him, and he didn't have a leg to stand on.

He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years (Rev. 20:2).