Climate change -- Existential threat to humanity

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shittim

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We are running out of time to earn crowns to lay at His feet.:)(y):unsure::coffee:
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Yes, and Jesus will throw all of this carbon nonsense into the face of Satan, his followers and their worship of their mother goddess, the earth. Jesus will create more CO2 and ash in His one destructive action than all of humanity and nature's volcanos throughout history.
Yes, all the earth worshippers will answer.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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#67
One of the things we say as a church is, "come Lord Jesus", every service.
The Lords prayer says, "Thy Kingdom come". Amen.
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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Hi guys, sorry I am late on this thread, forgive me if what i write is old news. many people are frightened by the media about climate change, there always was climate change on this planet, this is not new, the current narrative that the globalists are pushing very hard right now with the help of child actors ( little greta ) have to do with CO2. Since then many people I know think CO2 is bad for the atmosphere and even a poison, and that we must lower carbon emissions to save the planet. Well well ,did you know that if CO2 falls lower than 180 ppm, all plant life will die and us too? we have now bout 400 ppm.

let me explain why this narrative is false;
tables like the one below show a short list of greenhouse warming (GWP) potential index which is a relavive number, it permits us to see which gases are more inclined to heat up the atmosphere;



the index number for CO2 is 1. The lowest on the list, however a very important gas that really heats up the atmosphere is missing on this table and 99% of the tables found on the internet. water vapour (H2O), has a value, of 300.

Now if we look at the gases that make up the atmosphere we find in the internet tables like this one;



OH miracle of miracles, water vapor is miraculously missing! it represents between 2.5 and 5% of total atmospheric gas but varies with humidity levels. water vapour has an index of 300!

Now CO2 with the lowest Greenhouse gas potential of 1 representing o.o36% is supposed to be behind the global warming trend?

see below an articles from NASA

https://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/vapor_warming.html

about 10-15 years ago I started noticing that planes were producing persistent contrails, not only that but they grew larger, within a few hours of the first one the sky would become a uniform grey cloud cover. In my opinion it is the water vapour trapped by these artificial clouds that are mostly responsible, CO2 cannot be the culprit.

To visualize what 0.04% of CO2 is is, line up 100 pennies on a table, cut the last one of the line in 100 pieces, take 4 piece of the last penny cut in 100 picecesm that is 0.04% , not much really plus the fact CO2 has the lowest greenhouse warming potential how could it be responsible? No need for sophisticated differential equations here really, we are being lied to. Carbon tax anyone?

just food for thought,

Like Jesus said not to worry, and I say be Happy the Kingdom comes.

BLessings.
 
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Gojira

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Hi guys, sorry I am late on this thread, forgive me if what i write is old news. many people are frightened by the media about climate change, there always was climate change on this planet, this is not new, the current narrative that the globalists are pushing very hard right now with the help of child actors ( little greta ) have to do with CO2. Since then many people I know think CO2 is bad for the atmosphere and even a poison, and that we must lower carbon emissions to save the planet. Well well ,did you know that if CO2 falls lower than 180 ppm, all plant life will die and us too? we have now bout 400 ppm.

let me explain why this narrative is false;
tables like the one below show a short list of greenhouse warming (GWP) potential index which is a relavive number, it permits us to see which gases are more inclined to heat up the atmosphere;



the index number for CO2 is 1. The lowest on the list, however a very important gas that really heats up the atmosphere is missing on this table and 99% of the tables found on the internet. water vapour (H2O), has a value, of 300.

Now if we look at the gases that make up the atmosphere we find in the internet tables like this one;



OH miracle of miracles, water vapor is miraculously missing! it represents between 2.5 and 5% of total atmospheric gas but varies with humidity levels. water vapour has an index of 300!

Now CO2 with the lowest Greenhouse gas potential of 1 representing o.o36% is supposed to be behind the global warming trend?

see below an articles from NASA

https://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/vapor_warming.html

about 10-15 years ago I started noticing that planes were producing persistent contrails, not only that but they grew larger, within a few hours of the first one the sky would become a uniform grey cloud cover. In my opinion it is the water vapour trapped by these artificial clouds that are mostly responsible, CO2 cannot be the culprit.

To visualize what 0.04% of CO2 is is, line up 100 pennies on a table, cut the last one of the line in 100 pieces, take 4 piece of the last penny cut in 100 picecesm that is 0.04% , not much really plus the fact CO2 has the lowest greenhouse warming potential how could it be responsible? No need for sophisticated differential equations here really, we are being lied to. Carbon tax anyone?

just food for thought,

Like Jesus said not to worry, and I say be Happy the Kingdom comes.

BLessings.
See... I do not fall for this existential threat nonsense, but not because of this detailed data you sent :) I would not have gone that deeply. Here is why I don't buy into it, and you can tell me if my less-data-driven reasoning is faulty or not.

1. By now, we should see coastal flooding, with perhaps miles of water inland -- based on Al Gore's and other doomsday prophets' predictions. FL, as flat as it is, should be under water now.

2. After moron Chris Cuomo said, on CNN to Kellyanne Conway several years ago, that hurricanes are increasing in number and intensity every year, I bothered to visit the USGS website. He's either misinformed or a liar. The average intensity for hurricanes over the prior 15-20 years had been between 1 & 2 (once they hit land). Some years saw no storms at all. There was no pattern of increasing anything.

3. I see cooler weather, and the Left tells us not to use weather as anti-global warming evidence. But, if we're having a wet summer, we're told that it's evidence for more melted ice be transpired into the atmosphere. So are droughts. Hmmm...???

They don't believe in science, they believe in cherry-picking what suits their narrative. Therefore that narrative cannot be trusted.

Right now, in AZ, it is cooler than normal. Maybe 10° below normal. THANK YOU LORD!! LOL But... is that irregularity global warming? Sorry... climate change? Sorry... climate disruption? Well, so say the alarmists, which they can if they keep renaming the settled science.
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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See... I do not fall for this existential threat nonsense, but not because of this detailed data you sent :) I would not have gone that deeply. Here is why I don't buy into it, and you can tell me if my less-data-driven reasoning is faulty or not.

1. By now, we should see coastal flooding, with perhaps miles of water inland -- based on Al Gore's and other doomsday prophets' predictions. FL, as flat as it is, should be under water now.

2. After moron Chris Cuomo said, on CNN to Kellyanne Conway several years ago, that hurricanes are increasing in number and intensity every year, I bothered to visit the USGS website. He's either misinformed or a liar. The average intensity for hurricanes over the prior 15-20 years had been between 1 & 2 (once they hit land). Some years saw no storms at all. There was no pattern of increasing anything.

3. I see cooler weather, and the Left tells us not to use weather as anti-global warming evidence. But, if we're having a wet summer, we're told that it's evidence for more melted ice be transpired into the atmosphere. So are droughts. Hmmm...???

They don't believe in science, they believe in cherry-picking what suits their narrative. Therefore that narrative cannot be trusted.

Right now, in AZ, it is cooler than normal. Maybe 10° below normal. THANK YOU LORD!! LOL But... is that irregularity global warming? Sorry... climate change? Sorry... climate disruption? Well, so say the alarmists, which they can if they keep renaming the settled science.
true, common sense prevails and you have plenty of it! but people sometimes want the proof on the table! ( a french expression, les preuves sur la table) I gave the data in case but I agree with you! florida was supposed to be under water a long time ago... scaring people to gat a carbon tax and causing mayhem it is part of the globalist plan tor the one world government! i did this research for myself but decided to share, I am a retired researcher but that instinct will always remain, I need to understand.

Blessings!
 

gb9

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true, common sense prevails and you have plenty of it! but people sometimes want the proof on the table! ( a french expression, les preuves sur la table) I gave the data in case but I agree with you! florida was supposed to be under water a long time ago... scaring people to gat a carbon tax and causing mayhem it is part of the globalist plan tor the one world government! i did this research for myself but decided to share, I am a retired researcher but that instinct will always remain, I need to understand.

Blessings!
also, the climate change pushers target the young ( folks under 30) hard, because they are not old enough to realize all the failed predictions.
 

ZNP

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also, the climate change pushers target the young ( folks under 30) hard, because they are not old enough to realize all the failed predictions.
I was at a family event and one guy was talking to me about the scam with recycling (there was a documentary done where they showed most stuff that is separated out to be recycled just gets dumped as trash and never gets recycled). My sister became enraged saying that spreading the truth would simply encourage people to not recycle! She also knew that most of it was a sham but felt we had to keep up the sham otherwise the entire house of cards would collapse. Better if everyone is an obedient drone that believes a lie than if they realize the truth and stop allowing themselves to be manipulated.
 

gb9

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#74
I was at a family event and one guy was talking to me about the scam with recycling (there was a documentary done where they showed most stuff that is separated out to be recycled just gets dumped as trash and never gets recycled). My sister became enraged saying that spreading the truth would simply encourage people to not recycle! She also knew that most of it was a sham but felt we had to keep up the sham otherwise the entire house of cards would collapse. Better if everyone is an obedient drone that believes a lie than if they realize the truth and stop allowing themselves to be manipulated.
i actually recycle quite a lot. have a drop off say with easy access about 3 miles from my home.

not because of climate change, i share a garbage can with my neighbor ( we both put our trash into the same can that gets picked up on fri.) and recycling cuts down on the amount of trash i have...
 
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Gojira

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true, common sense prevails and you have plenty of it! but people sometimes want the proof on the table! ( a french expression, les preuves sur la table) I gave the data in case but I agree with you! florida was supposed to be under water a long time ago... scaring people to gat a carbon tax and causing mayhem it is part of the globalist plan tor the one world government! i did this research for myself but decided to share, I am a retired researcher but that instinct will always remain, I need to understand.

Blessings!
Oh no... give the data. There will always be someone who'll require it.
 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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#76
Patrick Moore: Carbon dioxide is the building block of all life on Earth

 

p_rehbein

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#77
This is such a "non issue."

Since God instituted "climates," the climate has been changing constantly.
 
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Gojira

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This is such a "non issue."

Since God instituted "climates," the climate has been changing constantly.
This is true. But, as the Left says, never let a crisis go to waste... though, if it's not a crisis, no harm in making it one, right? :rolleyes:
 

iamsoandso

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Hi guys, sorry I am late on this thread, forgive me if what i write is old news. many people are frightened by the media about climate change, there always was climate change on this planet, this is not new, the current narrative that the globalists are pushing very hard right now with the help of child actors ( little greta ) have to do with CO2. Since then many people I know think CO2 is bad for the atmosphere and even a poison, and that we must lower carbon emissions to save the planet. Well well ,did you know that if CO2 falls lower than 180 ppm, all plant life will die and us too? we have now bout 400 ppm.

let me explain why this narrative is false;
tables like the one below show a short list of greenhouse warming (GWP) potential index which is a relavive number, it permits us to see which gases are more inclined to heat up the atmosphere;



the index number for CO2 is 1. The lowest on the list, however a very important gas that really heats up the atmosphere is missing on this table and 99% of the tables found on the internet. water vapour (H2O), has a value, of 300.

Now if we look at the gases that make up the atmosphere we find in the internet tables like this one;



OH miracle of miracles, water vapor is miraculously missing! it represents between 2.5 and 5% of total atmospheric gas but varies with humidity levels. water vapour has an index of 300!

Now CO2 with the lowest Greenhouse gas potential of 1 representing o.o36% is supposed to be behind the global warming trend?

see below an articles from NASA

https://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/vapor_warming.html

about 10-15 years ago I started noticing that planes were producing persistent contrails, not only that but they grew larger, within a few hours of the first one the sky would become a uniform grey cloud cover. In my opinion it is the water vapour trapped by these artificial clouds that are mostly responsible, CO2 cannot be the culprit.

To visualize what 0.04% of CO2 is is, line up 100 pennies on a table, cut the last one of the line in 100 pieces, take 4 piece of the last penny cut in 100 picecesm that is 0.04% , not much really plus the fact CO2 has the lowest greenhouse warming potential how could it be responsible? No need for sophisticated differential equations here really, we are being lied to. Carbon tax anyone?

just food for thought,

Like Jesus said not to worry, and I say be Happy the Kingdom comes.

BLessings.

H2O is Hydrogen an Oxygen. On the list it can exist in three states,vapor/gas, liquid or solid when they collect and form water it rains(liquid), if it freezes it is a solid. Both Hydrogen and Oxygen are on the list as H2 or O2.
 

ZNP

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This is such a "non issue."

Since God instituted "climates," the climate has been changing constantly.
I disagree. King Charles has made it the cornerstone of his reign, he likens himself to the "green man" a pagan god known as "pan". The root word of panic is based on this god. The way the satanists manipulate people is to put them into a panic so they will grab the "solution" that the satanists wanted them to take in the first place.

I heard a speech from King Charles on this topic and he is incredibly persuasive. Masterful.