Summary of Bible references on the Rapture
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Some teach that the rapture is a false doctrine that teaches believers will not have to suffer tribulation.
Some claim man is afraid of suffering and going through hard trials believing that a God who loves us could never put us through suffering so they’ve come up with an escape route of their own using scripture in untruth.
This doctrine nullifies the great and precious promises of our escape
So then this prayer is pointless:
Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.”
And apparently it doesn't matter if we ignore so great a salvation because no one is going to escape:
how shall we escape if we ignore so great a salvation? This salvation, which was first announced by the Lord, was confirmed to us by those who heard him.
And what difference does it make if we refuse to listen to the warnings from the Lord in heaven?
See to it that you do not refuse him who speaks. If they did not escape when they refused him who warned them on earth, how much less will we, if we turn away from him who warns us from heaven?
We have great and precious promises to escape the corruption in the world, yet you nullify them with your teaching.
Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.
And so much for this promise
The Lord will rescue his servants; no one who takes refuge in him will be condemned.
Forget it Paul
What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death?
Yep, looks like Paul got it wrong again
and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead—Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath.
So many promises nullified by this teaching
The Lord will rescue me from every evil attack and will bring me safely to his heavenly kingdom. To him be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Oh well, it seems Peter also is wrong
4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment; 5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; 6 if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7 and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless 8 (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9 if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment.
Some claim man is afraid of suffering and going through hard trials believing that a God who loves us could never put us through suffering so they’ve come up with an escape route of their own using scripture in untruth.
This doctrine nullifies the great and precious promises of our escape
So then this prayer is pointless:
Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.”
And apparently it doesn't matter if we ignore so great a salvation because no one is going to escape:
how shall we escape if we ignore so great a salvation? This salvation, which was first announced by the Lord, was confirmed to us by those who heard him.
And what difference does it make if we refuse to listen to the warnings from the Lord in heaven?
See to it that you do not refuse him who speaks. If they did not escape when they refused him who warned them on earth, how much less will we, if we turn away from him who warns us from heaven?
We have great and precious promises to escape the corruption in the world, yet you nullify them with your teaching.
Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.
And so much for this promise
The Lord will rescue his servants; no one who takes refuge in him will be condemned.
Forget it Paul
What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death?
Yep, looks like Paul got it wrong again
and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead—Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath.
So many promises nullified by this teaching
The Lord will rescue me from every evil attack and will bring me safely to his heavenly kingdom. To him be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Oh well, it seems Peter also is wrong
4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment; 5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; 6 if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7 and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless 8 (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9 if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment.
"Please explain about Nisan 1 and the 70th week?"
Daniel referred to a 70 week period which we understand each week to be a seven year period. During the 69th week Messiah is cut off which we understand to be Jesus being crucified. When Jesus is cut off the covenant with the Jews is put on hold, and the Lord turns to the Gentiles. It is called "the times of the Gentiles" which we understand to refer to the two thousand year period of the church age.
Matthew 24:36 says "But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only."
But the context appears to be the new heaven and new earth.
Mark 13:32 says "But of that day or that hour knoweth no one, not even the angels in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."
But it appears that Mark 13 is referring to the tribulation saints who are left behind after the rapture.
Luke 21:24 says "and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled."
There is no mention that no one knows the day or the hour. We were able to accurately calculate the year that Jesus was crucified from Daniel's 69 weeks and knowing that Jesus was the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.
It also would seem that when the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled you would have the rapture of the church. That would be the end of the church age and the beginning of the 70th week. That is an interpretation and it seems very reasonable to me.
When I went through Mark 13 and compared it with Luke 21 there is a stunning comparison between the apostolic age and the "tribulation" the three and a half year period during the first half of the 70th week. We learn that after Jesus was crucified there was a 40 year period where the Jews could have repented for rejecting Jesus. So although it was the times of the Gentiles it was also a period of grace for Jews to repent and receive Jesus. They didn't and so the temple was destroyed. In the same way at the end of the age this three and half year period at the beginning of the 70th week is an opportunity for Christians who are left behind to repent and get right with the Lord.
Therefore, and nothing really radical about this, the church age ends with the rapture and when it ends the 70th week begins. This term is "shemitah" and the OT describes seven year periods as shemitahs. After seven of them, the first year of the 8th shemitah is the 50th year, the year of jubilee. These years all begin on Nisan 1 and have done so ever since the Exodus from Egypt. Therefore it seems reasonable to me that the 70th shemitah would also begin on Nisan 1 seeing as how the first 69 all did.
This is simply an interpretation of the Bible. This is why I showed that Luke 21 is referring to the things happening during the seventieth week with the future tense while Mark uses the present tense. It is important to this interpretation to view those chapters this way because then the fact that Luke does not say that no one knows the day or the hour becomes significant.
Daniel referred to a 70 week period which we understand each week to be a seven year period. During the 69th week Messiah is cut off which we understand to be Jesus being crucified. When Jesus is cut off the covenant with the Jews is put on hold, and the Lord turns to the Gentiles. It is called "the times of the Gentiles" which we understand to refer to the two thousand year period of the church age.
Matthew 24:36 says "But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only."
But the context appears to be the new heaven and new earth.
Mark 13:32 says "But of that day or that hour knoweth no one, not even the angels in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."
But it appears that Mark 13 is referring to the tribulation saints who are left behind after the rapture.
Luke 21:24 says "and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled."
There is no mention that no one knows the day or the hour. We were able to accurately calculate the year that Jesus was crucified from Daniel's 69 weeks and knowing that Jesus was the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world.
It also would seem that when the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled you would have the rapture of the church. That would be the end of the church age and the beginning of the 70th week. That is an interpretation and it seems very reasonable to me.
When I went through Mark 13 and compared it with Luke 21 there is a stunning comparison between the apostolic age and the "tribulation" the three and a half year period during the first half of the 70th week. We learn that after Jesus was crucified there was a 40 year period where the Jews could have repented for rejecting Jesus. So although it was the times of the Gentiles it was also a period of grace for Jews to repent and receive Jesus. They didn't and so the temple was destroyed. In the same way at the end of the age this three and half year period at the beginning of the 70th week is an opportunity for Christians who are left behind to repent and get right with the Lord.
Therefore, and nothing really radical about this, the church age ends with the rapture and when it ends the 70th week begins. This term is "shemitah" and the OT describes seven year periods as shemitahs. After seven of them, the first year of the 8th shemitah is the 50th year, the year of jubilee. These years all begin on Nisan 1 and have done so ever since the Exodus from Egypt. Therefore it seems reasonable to me that the 70th shemitah would also begin on Nisan 1 seeing as how the first 69 all did.
This is simply an interpretation of the Bible. This is why I showed that Luke 21 is referring to the things happening during the seventieth week with the future tense while Mark uses the present tense. It is important to this interpretation to view those chapters this way because then the fact that Luke does not say that no one knows the day or the hour becomes significant.
Matthew 25:13-30 Watch Therefore, for ye know not the day nor the hour
13 Watch therefore, for ye know not the day nor the hour.
This is really incredible. There are Bible teachers who say you don't need to watch because no one knows the day or the hour, yet the context of this verse is that this is precisely why we do need to watch.
14 For it is as when a man, going into another country, called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods. 15 And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, to another one; to each according to his several ability; and he went on his journey.
Again, He is telling us about the rapture, but from a different angle. Jesus has delivered the word to us, His spirit to us, the church and the saints to us. It is our job to build up the heavenly economy while He is gone. The rapture is the one festival that occurs when the Lord returns from a long journey. You can view the two years spent building the house as a long journey or you can view this example, either way the rapture is after the Lord returns from a long journey. There is only one festival in the Old Testament that is specifically for a man who returns from a long journey, that is the second Passover.
16 Straightway he that received the five talents went and traded with them, and made other five talents. 17 In like manner he also that received the two gained other two. 18 But he that received the one went away and digged in the earth, and hid his lord’s money.
Again, many of us are nervous about the Lord’s coming, will He be happy with what I have done. Did you hide your talent? He is not going to be happy about that. But just because you aren’t some “great evangelist” doesn’t mean you haven’t invested your talent. He seems quite happy with everyone who did invest, it is just the guy who hid the talent that He is not happy with. This sounds like the kid who always gets his lunch money stolen by the bully so he hides the money rather than stand up to the Bully. At the end of the age we are supposed to take a stand to prevent our house from being broken into, a stand against the bully.
19 Now after a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and maketh a reckoning with them. 20 And he that received the five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: lo, I have gained other five talents. 21 His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will set thee over many things; enter thou into the joy of thy lord. 22 And he also that received the two talents came and said, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents: lo, I have gained other two talents. 23 His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will set thee over many things; enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
Enter into the joy of the Lord. The Lord’s return is joyful for some. I tell all my students that the exam is “an opportunity for them to shine”. It is a running joke with foolish virgins that people hate exams, it isn’t true. I have students who get 100 on exams, they don’t hate them. This is also another way of looking at filling your vessel with oil. He gave them talents according to their ability like giving them oil according to the size of the vessel.
24 And he also that had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art a hard man, reaping where thou didst not sow, and gathering where thou didst not scatter; 25 and I was afraid, and went away and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, thou hast thine own.
Quick question, this doesn’t seem to be my experience, I have had times when I felt I should speak but didn’t. I have had experiences where I was afraid to share my experience. Never once was it because I thought “oh the Lord is a hard man reaping where He doesn’t sow”. Either this guy is very different from me, or else he isn’t being honest. I suspect he fashioned what he thought would be a clever explanation for why he had done nothing as he saw all the other saints sharing their experiences. Bad strategy, lying to the Lord. If you were truly scared of the Lord you would be way too scared to lie. Better to be a "slothful" servant who is honest than one who is a liar.
26 But his lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I did not scatter; 27 thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the bankers, and at my coming I should have received back mine own with interest.
If he had simply done nothing he would have been slothful but not wicked. Fabricating a lie to justify his action indicates he was also wicked. Then the Lord hits the real objection, I was afraid of man. If you were afraid of man then share with the saints, they welcome all testimonies. I used to be a stock broker and you can do much better with wise investing in the market, but at the same time I can understand someone who is scared to do that. There are guaranteed investments with banks, easy peasy.
28 Take ye away therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him that hath the ten talents. 29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not, even that which he hath shall be taken away.
Wow, this guy thought he had nothing and yet what he did have the Lord and all the saints want. Too bad he didn’t appreciate what he had.
30 And cast ye out the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness: there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth.
This is where it gets confusing. What does this mean? I suspect there have been a lot of erroneous theories posited on this. Things like purgatory and indulgences. All I know is if the Lord comes tomorrow and I am left out in the dark I will be weeping and gnashing my teeth. I’ll have 1,260 days to turn things around.
One final comment, the context of this story is that we need to watch for the Lord's coming, but he is comparing this to "watching for a final exam". It isn't sufficient to know when the exam is, you have to study, you have to prepare, you have to show up ready. Our entire Christian life is an opportunity to invest the Lord's talents and build up the Lord's economy and if you do that when He returns you will have a spiritual bank account that is full, a vessel full of oil. The true treasure on this earth is a word from God that is your experience. A real treasure is an experience of faith, hope and love. If you don't have that you will be ashamed at the Lord's coming.
13 Watch therefore, for ye know not the day nor the hour.
This is really incredible. There are Bible teachers who say you don't need to watch because no one knows the day or the hour, yet the context of this verse is that this is precisely why we do need to watch.
14 For it is as when a man, going into another country, called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods. 15 And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, to another one; to each according to his several ability; and he went on his journey.
Again, He is telling us about the rapture, but from a different angle. Jesus has delivered the word to us, His spirit to us, the church and the saints to us. It is our job to build up the heavenly economy while He is gone. The rapture is the one festival that occurs when the Lord returns from a long journey. You can view the two years spent building the house as a long journey or you can view this example, either way the rapture is after the Lord returns from a long journey. There is only one festival in the Old Testament that is specifically for a man who returns from a long journey, that is the second Passover.
16 Straightway he that received the five talents went and traded with them, and made other five talents. 17 In like manner he also that received the two gained other two. 18 But he that received the one went away and digged in the earth, and hid his lord’s money.
Again, many of us are nervous about the Lord’s coming, will He be happy with what I have done. Did you hide your talent? He is not going to be happy about that. But just because you aren’t some “great evangelist” doesn’t mean you haven’t invested your talent. He seems quite happy with everyone who did invest, it is just the guy who hid the talent that He is not happy with. This sounds like the kid who always gets his lunch money stolen by the bully so he hides the money rather than stand up to the Bully. At the end of the age we are supposed to take a stand to prevent our house from being broken into, a stand against the bully.
19 Now after a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and maketh a reckoning with them. 20 And he that received the five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: lo, I have gained other five talents. 21 His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will set thee over many things; enter thou into the joy of thy lord. 22 And he also that received the two talents came and said, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents: lo, I have gained other two talents. 23 His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will set thee over many things; enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
Enter into the joy of the Lord. The Lord’s return is joyful for some. I tell all my students that the exam is “an opportunity for them to shine”. It is a running joke with foolish virgins that people hate exams, it isn’t true. I have students who get 100 on exams, they don’t hate them. This is also another way of looking at filling your vessel with oil. He gave them talents according to their ability like giving them oil according to the size of the vessel.
24 And he also that had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art a hard man, reaping where thou didst not sow, and gathering where thou didst not scatter; 25 and I was afraid, and went away and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, thou hast thine own.
Quick question, this doesn’t seem to be my experience, I have had times when I felt I should speak but didn’t. I have had experiences where I was afraid to share my experience. Never once was it because I thought “oh the Lord is a hard man reaping where He doesn’t sow”. Either this guy is very different from me, or else he isn’t being honest. I suspect he fashioned what he thought would be a clever explanation for why he had done nothing as he saw all the other saints sharing their experiences. Bad strategy, lying to the Lord. If you were truly scared of the Lord you would be way too scared to lie. Better to be a "slothful" servant who is honest than one who is a liar.
26 But his lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I did not scatter; 27 thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the bankers, and at my coming I should have received back mine own with interest.
If he had simply done nothing he would have been slothful but not wicked. Fabricating a lie to justify his action indicates he was also wicked. Then the Lord hits the real objection, I was afraid of man. If you were afraid of man then share with the saints, they welcome all testimonies. I used to be a stock broker and you can do much better with wise investing in the market, but at the same time I can understand someone who is scared to do that. There are guaranteed investments with banks, easy peasy.
28 Take ye away therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him that hath the ten talents. 29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not, even that which he hath shall be taken away.
Wow, this guy thought he had nothing and yet what he did have the Lord and all the saints want. Too bad he didn’t appreciate what he had.
30 And cast ye out the unprofitable servant into the outer darkness: there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth.
This is where it gets confusing. What does this mean? I suspect there have been a lot of erroneous theories posited on this. Things like purgatory and indulgences. All I know is if the Lord comes tomorrow and I am left out in the dark I will be weeping and gnashing my teeth. I’ll have 1,260 days to turn things around.
One final comment, the context of this story is that we need to watch for the Lord's coming, but he is comparing this to "watching for a final exam". It isn't sufficient to know when the exam is, you have to study, you have to prepare, you have to show up ready. Our entire Christian life is an opportunity to invest the Lord's talents and build up the Lord's economy and if you do that when He returns you will have a spiritual bank account that is full, a vessel full of oil. The true treasure on this earth is a word from God that is your experience. A real treasure is an experience of faith, hope and love. If you don't have that you will be ashamed at the Lord's coming.
Comparing Mark 1:4-9 with Luke
The contrast between the two gospels is stark in the discussion of John the Baptist.
Mark 1:4 John came, who baptized in the wilderness and preached the baptism of repentance unto remission of sins. 5 And there went out unto him all the country of Judaea, and all they of Jerusalem; and they were baptized of him in the river Jordan, confessing their sins.
Luke 3:7 He said therefore to the multitudes that went out to be baptized of him, Ye offspring of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. 9 And even now the axe also lieth at the root of the trees: every tree therefore that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 10 And the multitudes asked him, saying, What then must we do? 11 And he answered and said unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath food, let him do likewise. 12 And there came also publicans to be baptized, and they said unto him, Teacher, what must we do? 13 And he said unto them, Extort no more than that which is appointed you. 14 And soldiers also asked him, saying, And we, what must we do? And he said unto them, Extort from no man by violence, neither accuse any one wrongfully; and be content with your wages.
In Luke they are warned about what is coming. In Mark they are confessing their sins, present tense. In Luke the axe is laid a the root, the warning is the trees that are not bearing good fruit will be cut down, in Mark they are cut down. In Luke they ask wha they must do and they are told if you have two coats you have to share, in Mark the money is gone, so no longer is this an issue, everyone is poor. Likewise the tax collectors are told to not extort people in Luke but in Mark you can't be a tax collector, in the kingdom of Antichrist you would have to take the mark to be collecting taxes or working as a soldier.
Mark 1:6 And John was clothed with camel’s hair, and had a leathern girdle about his loins, and did eat locusts and wild honey. 7 And he preached, saying, There cometh after me he that is mightier than I, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose. 8 I baptized you in water; but he shall baptize you in the Holy Spirit.
Luke 3:15 And as the people were in expectation, and all men reasoned in their hearts concerning John, whether haply he were the Christ; 16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but there cometh he that is mightier than I, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you in the Holy Spirit and in fire: 17 whose fan is in his hand, thoroughly to cleanse his threshing-floor, and to gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn up with unquenchable fire. 18 With many other exhortations therefore preached he good tidings unto the people;
Look at Mark, it is as though he is describing the people during the tribulation. They live off of bugs and honey. In Luke there are future warnings that the Lord is going to cleanse his threshingfold and gather the wheat into the barn (rapture). In Luke he is exhorting the believers, but not in Mark, no mention at all. What would be the point after the rapture.
Mark 1:9 And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in the Jordan. 10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens rent asunder, and the Spirit as a dove descending upon him: 11 and a voice came out of the heavens, Thou art my beloved Son, in thee I am well pleased.
Luke 3:19 but Herod the tetrarch, being reproved by him for Herodias his brother’s wife, and for all the evil things which Herod had done, 20 added this also to them all, that he shut up John in prison. 21 Now it came to pass, when all the people were baptized, that, Jesus also having been baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, 22 and the Holy Spirit descended in a bodily form, as a dove, upon him, and a voice came out of heaven, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
This is very weird that Luke tosses in this account about Herod putting John in prison before talking about Jesus being baptized by him. The time line on this is wonky. It is almost as though Jesus is baptized by all the evil things that Herod did. The context is that the fan is in the Lord's hand to burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire and then we see an example of the evil that John is talking about that will be burned up.
Now look at this baptism as a book end, at the beginning of the age the Spirit descends on Jesus and the testimony is this is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased. Then at the end of the church age and again during the tribulation with the martyred saints we see the Spirit ascend with the believers during the rapture also with the testimony these are my beloved children in whom I am well pleased.
23 And Jesus himself, when he began to teach, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli, 24 the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melchi, the son of Jannai, the son of Joseph, 25 the son of Mattathias, the son of Amos, the son of Nahum, the son of Esli, the son of Naggai, 26 the son of Maath, the son of Mattathias, the son of Semein, the son of Josech, the son of Joda, 27 the son of Joanan, the son of Rhesa, the son of Zerubbabel, the son of Shealtiel, the son of Neri, 28 the son of Melchi, the son of Addi, the son of Cosam, the son of Elmadam, the son of Er, 29 the son of Jesus, the son of Eliezer, the son of Jorim, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, 30 the son of Symeon, the son of Judas, the son of Joseph, the son of Jonam, the son of Eliakim, 31 the son of Melea, the son of Menna, the son of Mattatha, the son of Nathan, the son of David, 32 the son of Jesse, the son of Obed, the son of Boaz, the son of Salmon, the son of Nahshon, 33 the son of Amminadab, the son of Arni, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah, 34 the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham, the son of Terah, the son of Nahor, 35 the son of Serug, the son of Reu, the son of Peleg, the son of Eber, the son of Shelah, 36 the son of Cainan, the son of Arphaxad, the son of Shem, the son of Noah, the son of Lamech, 37 the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalaleel, the son of Cainan, 38 the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.
This is unique to Luke, there is no genealogy in Mark. The word "as was supposed" really stands out to me. I find all the other uses of this term interesting, people have erroneous concepts that the Lord is correcting. But if this is not Jesus genealogy, then why give it to us? There are some reasons and I will skip all that, it does fulfill prophecies that reconcile one of David's lines that was cut off permanently, and it is quite interesting why it was cut off because it sheds light on why Joseph had to go through what he had to go through to bring in this reconciliation.
But I want to skip that, I want to focus on "as was supposed". It was supposed that Jesus was a man, born like all the rest of us. Matthew shows us that Jesus was descended from Abraham and was the seed of the woman, the promised seed of Abraham. But here Jesus is not descended from Joseph and we can't understand why we are going through the whole genealogy until we get to Adam. Jesus is the second Adam and like Adam he was not born of anyone, he was born of God.
The contrast between the two gospels is stark in the discussion of John the Baptist.
Mark 1:4 John came, who baptized in the wilderness and preached the baptism of repentance unto remission of sins. 5 And there went out unto him all the country of Judaea, and all they of Jerusalem; and they were baptized of him in the river Jordan, confessing their sins.
Luke 3:7 He said therefore to the multitudes that went out to be baptized of him, Ye offspring of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? 8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. 9 And even now the axe also lieth at the root of the trees: every tree therefore that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 10 And the multitudes asked him, saying, What then must we do? 11 And he answered and said unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath food, let him do likewise. 12 And there came also publicans to be baptized, and they said unto him, Teacher, what must we do? 13 And he said unto them, Extort no more than that which is appointed you. 14 And soldiers also asked him, saying, And we, what must we do? And he said unto them, Extort from no man by violence, neither accuse any one wrongfully; and be content with your wages.
In Luke they are warned about what is coming. In Mark they are confessing their sins, present tense. In Luke the axe is laid a the root, the warning is the trees that are not bearing good fruit will be cut down, in Mark they are cut down. In Luke they ask wha they must do and they are told if you have two coats you have to share, in Mark the money is gone, so no longer is this an issue, everyone is poor. Likewise the tax collectors are told to not extort people in Luke but in Mark you can't be a tax collector, in the kingdom of Antichrist you would have to take the mark to be collecting taxes or working as a soldier.
Mark 1:6 And John was clothed with camel’s hair, and had a leathern girdle about his loins, and did eat locusts and wild honey. 7 And he preached, saying, There cometh after me he that is mightier than I, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose. 8 I baptized you in water; but he shall baptize you in the Holy Spirit.
Luke 3:15 And as the people were in expectation, and all men reasoned in their hearts concerning John, whether haply he were the Christ; 16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but there cometh he that is mightier than I, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you in the Holy Spirit and in fire: 17 whose fan is in his hand, thoroughly to cleanse his threshing-floor, and to gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn up with unquenchable fire. 18 With many other exhortations therefore preached he good tidings unto the people;
Look at Mark, it is as though he is describing the people during the tribulation. They live off of bugs and honey. In Luke there are future warnings that the Lord is going to cleanse his threshingfold and gather the wheat into the barn (rapture). In Luke he is exhorting the believers, but not in Mark, no mention at all. What would be the point after the rapture.
Mark 1:9 And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in the Jordan. 10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens rent asunder, and the Spirit as a dove descending upon him: 11 and a voice came out of the heavens, Thou art my beloved Son, in thee I am well pleased.
Luke 3:19 but Herod the tetrarch, being reproved by him for Herodias his brother’s wife, and for all the evil things which Herod had done, 20 added this also to them all, that he shut up John in prison. 21 Now it came to pass, when all the people were baptized, that, Jesus also having been baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, 22 and the Holy Spirit descended in a bodily form, as a dove, upon him, and a voice came out of heaven, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
This is very weird that Luke tosses in this account about Herod putting John in prison before talking about Jesus being baptized by him. The time line on this is wonky. It is almost as though Jesus is baptized by all the evil things that Herod did. The context is that the fan is in the Lord's hand to burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire and then we see an example of the evil that John is talking about that will be burned up.
Now look at this baptism as a book end, at the beginning of the age the Spirit descends on Jesus and the testimony is this is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased. Then at the end of the church age and again during the tribulation with the martyred saints we see the Spirit ascend with the believers during the rapture also with the testimony these are my beloved children in whom I am well pleased.
23 And Jesus himself, when he began to teach, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli, 24 the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, the son of Melchi, the son of Jannai, the son of Joseph, 25 the son of Mattathias, the son of Amos, the son of Nahum, the son of Esli, the son of Naggai, 26 the son of Maath, the son of Mattathias, the son of Semein, the son of Josech, the son of Joda, 27 the son of Joanan, the son of Rhesa, the son of Zerubbabel, the son of Shealtiel, the son of Neri, 28 the son of Melchi, the son of Addi, the son of Cosam, the son of Elmadam, the son of Er, 29 the son of Jesus, the son of Eliezer, the son of Jorim, the son of Matthat, the son of Levi, 30 the son of Symeon, the son of Judas, the son of Joseph, the son of Jonam, the son of Eliakim, 31 the son of Melea, the son of Menna, the son of Mattatha, the son of Nathan, the son of David, 32 the son of Jesse, the son of Obed, the son of Boaz, the son of Salmon, the son of Nahshon, 33 the son of Amminadab, the son of Arni, the son of Hezron, the son of Perez, the son of Judah, 34 the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham, the son of Terah, the son of Nahor, 35 the son of Serug, the son of Reu, the son of Peleg, the son of Eber, the son of Shelah, 36 the son of Cainan, the son of Arphaxad, the son of Shem, the son of Noah, the son of Lamech, 37 the son of Methuselah, the son of Enoch, the son of Jared, the son of Mahalaleel, the son of Cainan, 38 the son of Enos, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.
This is unique to Luke, there is no genealogy in Mark. The word "as was supposed" really stands out to me. I find all the other uses of this term interesting, people have erroneous concepts that the Lord is correcting. But if this is not Jesus genealogy, then why give it to us? There are some reasons and I will skip all that, it does fulfill prophecies that reconcile one of David's lines that was cut off permanently, and it is quite interesting why it was cut off because it sheds light on why Joseph had to go through what he had to go through to bring in this reconciliation.
But I want to skip that, I want to focus on "as was supposed". It was supposed that Jesus was a man, born like all the rest of us. Matthew shows us that Jesus was descended from Abraham and was the seed of the woman, the promised seed of Abraham. But here Jesus is not descended from Joseph and we can't understand why we are going through the whole genealogy until we get to Adam. Jesus is the second Adam and like Adam he was not born of anyone, he was born of God.
Compare Mark 1:12 with Luke 4:1-13
Mark 1:12 And straightway the Spirit driveth him forth into the wilderness. 13 And he was in the wilderness forty days tempted of Satan; and he was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.
Luke 4:1 And Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan, and was led in the Spirit in the wilderness 2 during forty days, being tempted of the devil. And he did eat nothing in those days: and when they were completed, he hungered. 3 And the devil said unto him, If thou art the Son of God, command this stone that it become bread. 4 And Jesus answered unto him, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone. 5 And he led him up, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6 And the devil said unto him, To thee will I give all this authority, and the glory of them: for it hath been delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. 7 If thou therefore wilt worship before me, it shall all be thine. 8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, It is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. 9 And he led him to Jerusalem, and set him on the pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou art the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence: 10 for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee, to guard thee:
11 and, On their hands they shall bear thee up, Lest haply thou dash thy foot against a stone.
12 And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not make trial of the Lord thy God.
13 And when the devil had completed every temptation, he departed from him for a season.
Look at the abbreviated description of the Lord being tempted in the wilderness! Satan is not going to be tempting you with money or position or power during the tribulation. Prior to the 70th week he gives you the carrot, after the 70th week it is the stick. You want to eat, get the mark, you want to work, get the mark, either you worship him or he chops your head off.
This also destroys the one logical argument against the rapture. We have to go through tribulation, we must go through this kind of temptation, so when people say "pre tribulation" rapture they argue that this is unscriptural, all believers must go through tribulation. But you can see in this temptation here in Luke that this is true, these are the temptations, the trials and the tribulations we have gone through for 2,000 years. So instead of a "pre tribulation" rapture I like to refer to it as a pre 70th week rapture.
Mark 1:12 And straightway the Spirit driveth him forth into the wilderness. 13 And he was in the wilderness forty days tempted of Satan; and he was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.
Luke 4:1 And Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan, and was led in the Spirit in the wilderness 2 during forty days, being tempted of the devil. And he did eat nothing in those days: and when they were completed, he hungered. 3 And the devil said unto him, If thou art the Son of God, command this stone that it become bread. 4 And Jesus answered unto him, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone. 5 And he led him up, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. 6 And the devil said unto him, To thee will I give all this authority, and the glory of them: for it hath been delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. 7 If thou therefore wilt worship before me, it shall all be thine. 8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, It is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. 9 And he led him to Jerusalem, and set him on the pinnacle of the temple, and said unto him, If thou art the Son of God, cast thyself down from hence: 10 for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee, to guard thee:
11 and, On their hands they shall bear thee up, Lest haply thou dash thy foot against a stone.
12 And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not make trial of the Lord thy God.
13 And when the devil had completed every temptation, he departed from him for a season.
Look at the abbreviated description of the Lord being tempted in the wilderness! Satan is not going to be tempting you with money or position or power during the tribulation. Prior to the 70th week he gives you the carrot, after the 70th week it is the stick. You want to eat, get the mark, you want to work, get the mark, either you worship him or he chops your head off.
This also destroys the one logical argument against the rapture. We have to go through tribulation, we must go through this kind of temptation, so when people say "pre tribulation" rapture they argue that this is unscriptural, all believers must go through tribulation. But you can see in this temptation here in Luke that this is true, these are the temptations, the trials and the tribulations we have gone through for 2,000 years. So instead of a "pre tribulation" rapture I like to refer to it as a pre 70th week rapture.
Mark 1:14 Now after John was delivered up, Jesus came into Galilee,
In Luke we hear about this prior to Jesus being baptized and starting His ministry, but in Mark we hear about this after the baptism event and after the time in the wilderness being tempted.
Everyone who was saved during the church age, that took place after John the Baptist and all the evil that took place during Jesus' earthly ministry. But for those who are saved in the Tribulation, the rapture will be their "baptism" and John the Baptist gets arrested about a month or more after that event.
John the Baptist during the tribulation is not a reference to the two witnesses, instead he will be the forerunner of the Antichrist, the counterfeit Christ. The three and half years at the beginning of the 70th week will be a counterfeit of Jesus' earthly ministry.
In Luke we hear about this prior to Jesus being baptized and starting His ministry, but in Mark we hear about this after the baptism event and after the time in the wilderness being tempted.
Everyone who was saved during the church age, that took place after John the Baptist and all the evil that took place during Jesus' earthly ministry. But for those who are saved in the Tribulation, the rapture will be their "baptism" and John the Baptist gets arrested about a month or more after that event.
John the Baptist during the tribulation is not a reference to the two witnesses, instead he will be the forerunner of the Antichrist, the counterfeit Christ. The three and half years at the beginning of the 70th week will be a counterfeit of Jesus' earthly ministry.
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I believe Jesus died in 30 AD because 70 AD is 40 years later. The Jewish nation was given 40 years by God to repent before they got wiped off the map.
The Bible tells us Jesus was about 30 years old when He started His ministry which lasted for 3 1/2 years (about indicating it wasn't on his birthday but after).
We know the ministry ended at Passover, so this gives us a very good idea of what month it began.
However, we can also look at the history of these various rulers that are recorded in the Bible.
The Cross 30 AD The Rapture 2023 Fits Nice
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If we use that date you get 40 jubilee cycles from 70 AD to 2030 AD.
The Bible tells us Jesus was about 30 years old when He started His ministry which lasted for 3 1/2 years (about indicating it wasn't on his birthday but after).
We know the ministry ended at Passover, so this gives us a very good idea of what month it began.
However, we can also look at the history of these various rulers that are recorded in the Bible.
The Cross 30 AD The Rapture 2023 Fits Nice
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If we use that date you get 40 jubilee cycles from 70 AD to 2030 AD.
Is this a piece to the puzzle?
5 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the back, close sealed with seven seals. 2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a great voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? 3 And no one in the heaven, or on the earth, or under the earth, was able to open the book, or to look thereon.
This obviously cannot refer to God, it must refer to the creation. So no angel, no human, no created being anywhere was able to open this book or look thereon.
4 And I wept much, because no one was found worthy to open the book, or to look thereon:
Why is John weeping? This is one really big question I have had. This answers the question "why does God allow all this evil". In order to deal with Satan, his rebellion and the fallen angels God wants man to deal with it, He created man to have dominion, and yet no man has been found worthy.
5 and one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not; behold, the Lion that is of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath overcome to open the book and the seven seals thereof.
This is another question I have had, how does "the lamb" turn into the Lion? How do we transition from "turning the other cheek" to "taking the kingdom by force"?
6 And I saw in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, a Lamb standing, as though it had been slain, having seven horns, and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent forth into all the earth.
The "one eyed God" is the Satanic God from Egypt. This is what Tolkien referred to as the "all seeing eye". But Jesus is different, He has seven eyes, all the saints in all the churches are His eyes. The churches are also seven horns where we can take a stand for righteousness. The church is the Body of Christ and we were sent into all the earth. So think about that, at the time of Adam Satan had already fallen, the angels had already rebelled, and once they got Eve to sin and Cain to sin they had their hook into man. Satan had started his satanic system and we saw it growing as the whole world was focused on the flesh. But Noah received the revelation of God and so the word of God prevailed, the flesh was judged and eight souls emerge from the flood. But, we see Satan again get his kingdom to grow into Babel which again, God confounded their word while Abraham was able to escape with the word of God. Satan builds up his kingdom and we see the Egyptian empire with Horus and the various Satanic gods, but again God's people are able to escape via the Exodus. It is like watching a tennis match. The Jews build the tabernacle, but Eli is corrupt and the ark of testimony is seized by the enemy. They build the Temple but it is destroyed by the Babylonians. Back and forth, back and forth, but during every step of the way the word of God grows, becomes stronger, until Jesus Christ, the incarnated word of God prevails and overcomes.
7 And he came, and he taketh it out of the right hand of him that sat on the throne.
This is like a heavyweight fighter winning the fight and taking the belt as champion of the world. Satan had not been defeated prior to this. Instead what we saw for the first four thousand years is the word of God grow and we learn how to fight. Joshua, David, many different ones showed us how to fight. Paul has distilled these lessons to us. We don't fight against flesh and blood, that is an important lesson. We are ambassadors of the kingdom, that is also a critical lesson to understand. You have to understand your standing. The Lord has sent us out into all the earth, that is also a critical lesson. You have to understand your mission, no one can stop you from witnessing concerning the Lord because Jesus, the King of Kings has sent us. Satan, the fallen angels and the demons all know this. They may not like it, they may insult, they may accuse, but they can't stop you. The rulers during the age of the apostles tried to stop them from preaching, but they were clear, we take our marching orders from the Lord.
8 And when he had taken the book, the four living creatures and the four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having each one a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.
We need this vision when we pray "thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven".
9 And they sing a new song, saying,
The gospel is a new song, it is a song of victory. It is a song of hope. It is a song of salvation.
Worthy art thou to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and didst purchase unto God with thy blood men of every tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation, 10 and madest them to be unto our God a kingdom and priests; and they reign upon the earth.
The reason we were slaves to sin was because the price to pay for freedom was death. Jesus paid that price. As long as you are crucified with Christ and are dead to your old man and your flesh, you are free.
11 And I saw, and I heard a voice of many angels round about the throne and the living creatures and the elders; and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; 12 saying with a great voice,
Worthy is the Lamb that hath been slain to receive the power, and riches, and wisdom, and might, and honor, and glory, and blessing.
All of this is in this scroll that Jesus is opening! The Lord that we worship, that was raised from the dead, He has the power, He has the riches, He has the wisdom, He has the might, He has the honor, and the glory and the blessing. AI doesn't have it. Robots don't have it. Satan and his evil wisdom doesn't have it. Satan's wisdom is all about using people to his advantage and then stabbing them in the back when it is also to his advantage. People hate to be used and betrayed. There is no honor, or glory or blessing in Satan's kingdom. All they have is shame, trying to hide, and cursing. There are no riches, the things you get in Satan's kingdom are vanity, a wisp of smoke that vanishes. There is no power, a lie is only effective if people are deceived, once your lie is exposed it is a liability. You can try and hold down the truth but eventually it will come out and your lie is exposed and your kingdom collapses.
13 And every created thing which is in the heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and on the sea, and all things that are in them, heard I saying,
Unto him that sitteth on the throne, and unto the Lamb, be the blessing, and the honor, and the glory, and the dominion, for ever and ever.
Man was given dominion when he was created by God. He lost that when he fell to Satan's temptation. But Jesus, the second Adam overcame to win it back.
14 And the four living creatures said, Amen. And the elders fell down and worshipped.
5 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the back, close sealed with seven seals. 2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a great voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? 3 And no one in the heaven, or on the earth, or under the earth, was able to open the book, or to look thereon.
This obviously cannot refer to God, it must refer to the creation. So no angel, no human, no created being anywhere was able to open this book or look thereon.
4 And I wept much, because no one was found worthy to open the book, or to look thereon:
Why is John weeping? This is one really big question I have had. This answers the question "why does God allow all this evil". In order to deal with Satan, his rebellion and the fallen angels God wants man to deal with it, He created man to have dominion, and yet no man has been found worthy.
5 and one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not; behold, the Lion that is of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath overcome to open the book and the seven seals thereof.
This is another question I have had, how does "the lamb" turn into the Lion? How do we transition from "turning the other cheek" to "taking the kingdom by force"?
6 And I saw in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders, a Lamb standing, as though it had been slain, having seven horns, and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent forth into all the earth.
The "one eyed God" is the Satanic God from Egypt. This is what Tolkien referred to as the "all seeing eye". But Jesus is different, He has seven eyes, all the saints in all the churches are His eyes. The churches are also seven horns where we can take a stand for righteousness. The church is the Body of Christ and we were sent into all the earth. So think about that, at the time of Adam Satan had already fallen, the angels had already rebelled, and once they got Eve to sin and Cain to sin they had their hook into man. Satan had started his satanic system and we saw it growing as the whole world was focused on the flesh. But Noah received the revelation of God and so the word of God prevailed, the flesh was judged and eight souls emerge from the flood. But, we see Satan again get his kingdom to grow into Babel which again, God confounded their word while Abraham was able to escape with the word of God. Satan builds up his kingdom and we see the Egyptian empire with Horus and the various Satanic gods, but again God's people are able to escape via the Exodus. It is like watching a tennis match. The Jews build the tabernacle, but Eli is corrupt and the ark of testimony is seized by the enemy. They build the Temple but it is destroyed by the Babylonians. Back and forth, back and forth, but during every step of the way the word of God grows, becomes stronger, until Jesus Christ, the incarnated word of God prevails and overcomes.
7 And he came, and he taketh it out of the right hand of him that sat on the throne.
This is like a heavyweight fighter winning the fight and taking the belt as champion of the world. Satan had not been defeated prior to this. Instead what we saw for the first four thousand years is the word of God grow and we learn how to fight. Joshua, David, many different ones showed us how to fight. Paul has distilled these lessons to us. We don't fight against flesh and blood, that is an important lesson. We are ambassadors of the kingdom, that is also a critical lesson to understand. You have to understand your standing. The Lord has sent us out into all the earth, that is also a critical lesson. You have to understand your mission, no one can stop you from witnessing concerning the Lord because Jesus, the King of Kings has sent us. Satan, the fallen angels and the demons all know this. They may not like it, they may insult, they may accuse, but they can't stop you. The rulers during the age of the apostles tried to stop them from preaching, but they were clear, we take our marching orders from the Lord.
8 And when he had taken the book, the four living creatures and the four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having each one a harp, and golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints.
We need this vision when we pray "thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven".
9 And they sing a new song, saying,
The gospel is a new song, it is a song of victory. It is a song of hope. It is a song of salvation.
Worthy art thou to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and didst purchase unto God with thy blood men of every tribe, and tongue, and people, and nation, 10 and madest them to be unto our God a kingdom and priests; and they reign upon the earth.
The reason we were slaves to sin was because the price to pay for freedom was death. Jesus paid that price. As long as you are crucified with Christ and are dead to your old man and your flesh, you are free.
11 And I saw, and I heard a voice of many angels round about the throne and the living creatures and the elders; and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands; 12 saying with a great voice,
Worthy is the Lamb that hath been slain to receive the power, and riches, and wisdom, and might, and honor, and glory, and blessing.
All of this is in this scroll that Jesus is opening! The Lord that we worship, that was raised from the dead, He has the power, He has the riches, He has the wisdom, He has the might, He has the honor, and the glory and the blessing. AI doesn't have it. Robots don't have it. Satan and his evil wisdom doesn't have it. Satan's wisdom is all about using people to his advantage and then stabbing them in the back when it is also to his advantage. People hate to be used and betrayed. There is no honor, or glory or blessing in Satan's kingdom. All they have is shame, trying to hide, and cursing. There are no riches, the things you get in Satan's kingdom are vanity, a wisp of smoke that vanishes. There is no power, a lie is only effective if people are deceived, once your lie is exposed it is a liability. You can try and hold down the truth but eventually it will come out and your lie is exposed and your kingdom collapses.
13 And every created thing which is in the heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and on the sea, and all things that are in them, heard I saying,
Unto him that sitteth on the throne, and unto the Lamb, be the blessing, and the honor, and the glory, and the dominion, for ever and ever.
Man was given dominion when he was created by God. He lost that when he fell to Satan's temptation. But Jesus, the second Adam overcame to win it back.
14 And the four living creatures said, Amen. And the elders fell down and worshipped.
We know that God desires all men to be saved. We also know that all treasures of wisdom are hidden in Jesus Christ, the incarnated word. Therefore it is reasonable to conclude that the Lord will use all wisdom to save as many people as possible.
We also know that Satan was put to an open shame by the Lord's crucifixion, we also know that saving people out of kingdom of darkness into the Lord's marvelous light puts Satan to an open shame and is a glory to God. Therefore it is reasonable to conclude that a great many people will be saved that we would never have expected to get saved, just as Saul of Tarsus was one that no one expected to get saved.
We also know that Satan is a liar and a thief. According to the Bible if a thief is caught they must repay 7 fold. So any person who was "illegally" scammed into Satan's kingdom will need to be paid back to the Lord with six other people who were not scammed. Therefore it is reasonable to think that Satan has scammed some people and that those souls will be repaid 7 fold.
However, if you are going to reconcile every word of the Bible then clearly Hell exists, it was made for Satan and the fallen angels and Antichrist and the False prophet will also wind up in there.
However, ask yourself this, after 1,000 years Satan gets released and has another rebellion. Who joins that rebellion? I suspect there will be people who are part of this 7 fold repayment who at the end of the millennial kingdom will again join with Satan eliminating any confusion about their heart.
We also know that Satan was put to an open shame by the Lord's crucifixion, we also know that saving people out of kingdom of darkness into the Lord's marvelous light puts Satan to an open shame and is a glory to God. Therefore it is reasonable to conclude that a great many people will be saved that we would never have expected to get saved, just as Saul of Tarsus was one that no one expected to get saved.
We also know that Satan is a liar and a thief. According to the Bible if a thief is caught they must repay 7 fold. So any person who was "illegally" scammed into Satan's kingdom will need to be paid back to the Lord with six other people who were not scammed. Therefore it is reasonable to think that Satan has scammed some people and that those souls will be repaid 7 fold.
However, if you are going to reconcile every word of the Bible then clearly Hell exists, it was made for Satan and the fallen angels and Antichrist and the False prophet will also wind up in there.
However, ask yourself this, after 1,000 years Satan gets released and has another rebellion. Who joins that rebellion? I suspect there will be people who are part of this 7 fold repayment who at the end of the millennial kingdom will again join with Satan eliminating any confusion about their heart.