Why Moses and Elijah were at the transfiguration.

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In fact....it pleased the Lord to bruise His Son for your sake! You should hold up the banner high and not rob your Heavenly Father of His Sacrifice for sin something you or I could not offer.
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The only person who was totally obedient to the law was Jesus Christ.
He broke one Law only... but in doing so gave God the opportunity to remove it....taking it out of the way.
Do you know which Law I refer to?
 

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Re Moses - the lesson for Israel is that Yahweh demands total obedience and that the success of their entrance into the land de-
pended upon their individual application of His law.
If that is the case, no one would have entered.
 

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But changes nothing of the fact that God wanted to teach that lesson through the Servant of Yahweh.

Wonderful really!
 

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Moses was the example which spoke to Law not being able to save....they needed a Joshua to take them over ;)
There is much symbolism there for sure. Moses is a portrait of the law and Joshua a picture of Christ. So it suited God's purposes to do things as He did. But Joshua was far from sinless.
 

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Here is a little something to chew over:

Joshua, is given the same high title in Josh. 24:29. But though a title of honour, it is subordinate to that of the Son of God. Paul contrasted the status of Moses as a servant in Yahweh's house, with that of Christ who is Son over the same house (see Heb 3:3-6). As
Son, the Lord has precedence over Moses the servant. As servant, Moses ministered to the Son (Gal 3:24). Note how that both
Servant and Son will be associated together in the future glory (read Revelation 15:3).

The death of Moses really is a teaching of the Gospel of God though the coming Son of God.

Magnificent in its detail.
 

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Revelation is extremely symbolic and speaks to specific times in our history. The challenge is to understand who and what is being
Revelation is extremely symbolic and speaks to specific times in our history the future of the earth dwellers.
 

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I thought some honesty on your part would prevail but sadly not. The Master had doubts, concerns and feared death. I can see this is a tough subject for you.
There was only one thing that Jesus had never experienced: sin and punishment for sin.

So whatever your opinion of the matter, it should be constrained thereby.

Jesus then received even greater glory after His triumph on the cross. So factor that in as well.
 

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Wow, why are you resisting the reason Moses died in peak physical condition,
I think not.....

Deu 31:2
And he said unto them, I am an hundred and twenty years old this day; I can no more go out and come in: also the LORD hath said unto me, Thou shalt not go over this Jordan.
 
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The revelation that the earth is an altar gets me thinking about all the blood spilled on the earth.Starting with Able.
Think about this.If you want a deeper understanding of scripture and have a little more insight on why God did the things the way he did.Look for the water and the blood.His two witnesses on all the earth,doesn't it make sense to do so?
From the skins put on Adam and Eve,to Able,to Revelation,and everything inbetween,the water and the blood will be there as a witness.Not just at the 10 commandments and the cross but in every book and every page.
 

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Moses was the example which spoke to Law not being able to save....they needed a Joshua to take them over ;)
Joshua's conquest of the land is a type and microcosm of the FURTURE conquest of the PLANET by the greater Joshua, Jesus Messiah.
This conquest to happen YET FUTURE at the time of the 70th week of Daniel.

This conquest and type has nothing whatsoever to do with the Church per se. Nor does it have anything to do with the nullification of the Law.

Joshua took 7 years to complete the conquest = the 7 years and 70th week of the future time of tribulation.
 
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I knew the sun,moon and the earth were in the image of the spirit,water,and the blood for a good while now.See,there will always be the flesh there.Even if you're born of the spirit,the flesh will not go away till the day we die.So every day is a battle of the mind and the flesh.
I didn't have that revelation of the altar till a few days ago.See how simple that revelation was?I didn't understand the full meaning of it,because the flesh blocked Gods truth.
That's why we need to find rest in God.We should never leave that place.That's where the wisdom and knowledge is.
God has been so merciful to me.I'm so undeserving because I live in the flesh more than in the spirit.And he will let a droplet fall from the heavens and into my mouth.And I still refuse to cup my hands and drink!
 

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when God is weak, we are strong?
is that what you're trying to say?
Both Christ and us are weak..if only you understood that shared weakness more perfectly. 2 Corinthians 13:4
 

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I think not.....

Deu 31:2
And he said unto them, I am an hundred and twenty years old this day; I can no more go out and come in: also the LORD hath said unto me, Thou shalt not go over this Jordan.
The Word of God does not contradict itself CV5, only provides us with information we need to interpret. It's true his time as shepherd (Psalm 77:20) was coming to an end and this text you posted is on his 120th birthday! You know from Deut 34:7 Moses still retained full vigour and if you were honest you would acknowledge what this meant in terms of his capabilities. Did he feel the weaking affects of aging, of course! And would this lessen his ability to lead the people of course it would! But the record wants you to know that before his life was taken he was mentally & physically fit with a strong vision for Israels future. The reason the Word records him in this condition is to show Israel it was according to Gods Word Moses die precisely at that time and in that place on that day!

Such precision is not "time and chance" or fate or coincidence - a man of faith would see the Hand of God and accept its working. Enoch was no different - we are given the days of his life which have a start and and end! How God ended that life is for Him to know...we just accept the record (Gen 5:23-24)

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