5 Points of Arminianism

[Magenta]

You're not Pelagian either? Are you saying you’re not Pelagian or Arminian?

Why then were you the first to respond to this thread with your FACTS and continually defend the doctrine?

Listen, your thread was up for close to five hours and NOBODY had responded yet.

You made a false assertion in your OP.

I corrected it. You laughed at the correction.

If you wish to cling to your ignorance, you are certainly free to do so, while pretending
you wish others would research, presumably to learn, which you yourself seem adverse to.

But if you continue to say I support free will after everything I have said against it,
you just show that you are the dummy you claim others are.

If you want to talk to a Pelagian, talk to Bob-Carabbio.

 

[VARob]

Because easy believism breeds false converts who eventually hold positions of authority in the church, which causes further spiral into heresy.

Understanding that a person must choose to believe the gospel to become saved is not heresy or "easy believism."

It's the way God set it up. It's what the scriptures teach.

Some people are more committed to their beliefs than they are to the scriptures.

 

[NOV25]

Understanding that a person must choose to believe the gospel to become saved is not heresy or "easy believism."

It's the way God set it up. It's what the scriptures teach.

Some people are more committed to their beliefs than they are to the scriptures.

🤣 I agree, some people are more committed to the God they’ve created than the God of scripture.

 

[Magenta]

Jesus' Words in John 6:65

 

[NOV25]

Understanding that a person must choose to believe the gospel to become saved is not heresy or "easy believism."

It's the way God set it up. It's what the scriptures teach.

Some people are more committed to their beliefs than they are to the scriptures.

Synod of Dort would claim otherwise

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synod_of_Dort

 

[VARob]

🤣 I agree, some people are more committed to the God they’ve created than the God of scripture.

Calvinists should stop doing that.

(isn't this fun?)

 

[Magenta]

• Human Free Will – This states that though man is fallen, he is not incapacitated by the sinful nature and can freely choose God. His will is not restricted and enslaved by his sinful nature.
• Conditional Election – God chose people for salvation based on His foreknowledge where God looks into the future to see who would respond to the gospel message.
• Universal Atonement – The position that Jesus bore the sin of everyone who ever lived.
• Resistible Grace – The teaching that the grace of God can be resisted and finally beaten so as to reject salvation in Christ.
• Fall from Grace – The Teaching that a person can fall from grace and lose his salvation.

According to how you judge people, this post proves you are an Arminian.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

You're not Pelagian either? Are you saying you’re not Pelagian or Arminian?

Why then were you the first to respond to this thread with your FACTS and continually defend the doctrine?

Oh I see

Little trouble following you there.

But yes it’s my conclusion that Arminianism/Pelagianism (aka man’s ability to believe unto salvation) is a root of apostasy. And yes, I gave the Catholic, Methodist, Pentecostal/Charismatic churches as examples.

All of these either started in or adopted the works gospel then went astray in some way. There are more but researching these should reveal the obvious common denominator.

To put it bluntly, look up any church that affirms gay marriage, prosperity gospel, woman preachers, gay pastors etc. and you’ll discover their Arminian/Pelagian stance. Why?

Because easy believism breeds false converts who eventually hold positions of authority in the church, which causes further spiral into heresy.

It’s not rocket science.

But your biased proofs offered no proofs but opinion and there's more Baptist Churches allowing same sex where the Pentecost are not.

But back to the topic. Who is claiming humans are able to do anything to cause their Salvation or for God to Save them?

Only God can Invite and receive someone into Salvation.

God knocks on the heart and mind and asks to Enter.

It happens no other way.

 

[NOV25]

But your biased proofs offered no proofs but opinion and there's more Baptist Churches allowing same sex where the Pentecost are not.

But back to the topic. Who is claiming humans are able to do anything to cause their Salvation or for God to Save them?

Only God can Invite and receive someone into Salvation.

God knocks on the heart and mind and asks to Enter.

It happens no other way.

Facts are facts, whether you like them, understand them, or not.

Yes, the same thing is true for the Baptist and Presbyterian denominations, I said there was more. I could go on for days because the connection is always there, “Arminianism” is present in all heretical denominations.

If you want to throw a wrench into my claim you should find a Calvinistic denomination that affirms one the aforementioned heresies.
Happy hunting.

 

[HeIsHere]

🤣 I agree, some people are more committed to the God they’ve created than the God of scripture.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Facts are facts, whether you like them, understand them, or not.

Yes, the same thing is true for the Baptist and Presbyterian denominations, I said there was more. I could go on for days because the connection is always there, “Arminianism” is present in all heretical denominations.

If you want to throw a wrench into my claim you should find a Calvinistic denomination that affirms one the aforementioned heresies.
Happy hunting.

No. Fact is Fact if Pentecost actually taught what you claim. Since they don't, you are not presenting Fact but opinion. Opinion is not nor ever will be a Fact. So you are presenting something that is false which is an outright lie.

 

[NOV25]

No. Fact is Fact if Pentecost actually taught what you claim. Since they don't, you are not presenting Fact but opinion. Opinion is not nor ever will be a Fact. So you are presenting something that is false which is an outright lie.

Refusing to look at the facts doesn’t change them. 🙈
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentecostalism

 

[Magenta]

Refusing to look at the facts doesn’t change them. 🙈

Some of my responses talking about the depravity of man and why I disagree with "free will" were to you.

But still you present your opinion as fact, even though your opinion is the opposite of what I had said and the facts presented.

 

[NOV25]

Some of my responses talking about the depravity of man and why I disagree with "free will" were to you.

But still you present your opinion as fact, even though your opinion is the opposite of what I had said and the facts presented.

Explain your soteriology.

 

[Magenta]

Explain your soteriology.

We are saved by grace through faith in the shed righteous blood of Jesus Christ, and this is not of ourselves, it is the gift of God.

 

[NOV25]

We are saved by grace through faith in the shed righteous blood of Jesus Christ, and this is not of ourselves, it is the gift of God.

Oh, you have a Calvinistic soteriology? My apologies.

 

[Magenta]

Oh, you have a Calvinistic soteriology? My apologies.

That is just more of your snarky attitude.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Refusing to look at the facts doesn’t change them. 🙈
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentecostalism

What I don't understand is the TULIP idealism is not even backed up by Scripture.

You use Verses that don't even mean by definition what you claim but you claim it anyway.

I can at least use Scripture and exact wording for my beliefs.

TULIP is literally made up with no Verses to define it word for word.

It's an ASSUMPTION!

 

[Magenta]

What I don't understand is the TULIP idealism is not even backed up by Scripture.

You use Verses that don't even mean by definition what you claim but you claim it anyway.

I can at least use Scripture and exact wording for my beliefs.

TULIP is literally made up with no Verses to define it word for word.

It's an ASSUMPTION!

He shows himself to be incapable of thinking outside the itty bitty box he has constructed for himself.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

If God gave humanity the ability to see Himself in His Creation, then God gave humanity the ability to Follow Him.

If God can judge you to eternal Hell Fire, it means man has the ability to say to himself, LOOK AT THESE MOUNTAINS, OCEANS, BEACHES, FLATLAND, HILLY LAND, DESERT LAND, LIFEFORMS.. only a God could do that. That's God revealing Himself.

God is making every effort to reveal Himself to offer Salvation that humanity is truthfully only [without hope] or T [for TULIP] because humanity REJECTS GOD in His Creation, His Existence, His Love, and His Salvation.

The other group to those looking at Creation and rejecting God are those Following God.

So we're both connected to God and able to see God exists and therefore able to ask God for help where He offers Salvation instead.