You are correct concerning David demanding certain things of God in the Psalms, but that is not the only example in scripture.My answer is as follows:
1. Yes, in many Psalms, David implores or demands that God rescue him, for example. However, he is at the center of God's will in running away from Saul and, later, Absalom. If we know that what we ask for is biblical already, we can implore God to do it.
2. If we have no idea whether or not God wants to answer "yes" to our prayer, we can ask him with an underlying willingness to submit to his answer, whatever it is. In fact, the word "demand" has a negative connotation that I don't find in Scripture. We shouldn't, therefore, "demand," like a little child's temper tantrum, but we can urgently call for God's rescue or gift with a submissive spirit.
Moses telling God to turn from his wrath and not destroy the people.
Exodus 32
9 And the Lord said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiffnecked people:
10 Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them, and that I may consume them: and I will make of thee a great nation.
11 And Moses besought the Lord his God, and said, Lord, why doth thy wrath wax hot against thy people, which thou hast brought forth out of the land of Egypt with great power, and with a mighty hand?
12 Wherefore should the Egyptians speak, and say, For mischief did he bring them out, to slay them in the mountains, and to consume them from the face of the earth? Turn from thy fierce wrath, and repent of this evil against thy people.
The problem here is a Dispensational one - ie:
In God's Context of Prophecy/Covenants/Law, For Israel:
(17) Taught how/what to pray! (Matthew 6:9; Luke 11:2 KJB!)
"asking/believing And receiving," Correct?Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)
In God's Other Context of Mystery/GRACE!:
(17a) we Are Exhorted to "...Make our requests known Unto God!"
(Philippians 4:6 KJB!) While, At The Same Time, God "Teaches":
(17b) Concerning our infirmities, we "know Not" what to pray "as we ought,"
But "The Spirit Intercedeth FOR us, According To The Will Of God!..."
(Romans 8:26 KJB!)
Borrowed from: Distinctions of prophecy And MYSTERY!
Grace, Peace, And JOY In Christ, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided (+ I and II)! + RICH Blessings
Maybe this word…..My answer is as follows:
1. Yes, in many Psalms, David implores or demands that God rescue him, for example. However, he is at the center of God's will in running away from Saul and, later, Absalom. If we know that what we ask for is biblical already, we can implore God to do it.
2. If we have no idea whether or not God wants to answer "yes" to our prayer, we can ask him with an underlying willingness to submit to his answer, whatever it is. In fact, the word "demand" has a negative connotation that I don't find in Scripture. We shouldn't, therefore, "demand," like a little child's temper tantrum, but we can urgently call for God's rescue or gift with a submissive spirit.
Please read post 27I belong to our Father by Jesus Yeshua, and I always ask Him for anything according to His will, understanding that His will is utter wisdom. We thank Him for any tribulation, and when we do we are blessed with understanding or simply more faith.
No, I could never petition Him in the human mind set of instructing Him for He is the Teacher, not we. God bless you.
Jesus didn't tell them to do something they couldn't do. All that was required was for them to believe.Mat 14:16 But Jesus said unto them, They need not depart; give ye them to eat.
Mat 14:17 And they say unto him, We have here but five loaves, and two fishes.
Joh 6:6 And this he said to prove him: for he himself knew what he would do.
Did Jesus actually command His disciples to feed everyone, and would He tell them to do something they could not do?
What was Jesus testing Philip for, or what was it about?
There is a great difference between a plea and a demand, we must all learn this when reading the Psalms, and all will be well, at peaace.Please read post 27
Does God want you to take charge and tell Him what to do?
It's not a dispensational problem because the saints of the Old Testament have the same kind of faith as the ones of the New Testament, as Hebrews 11 amply demonstrates. Paul told God to take away his "thorn in the flesh." The key phrase in the question is "take charge." We must always let God take charge, since he is God, and we are not..The problem here is a Dispensational one - ie:
In God's Context of Prophecy/Covenants/Law, For Israel:
(17) Taught how/what to pray! (Matthew 6:9; Luke 11:2 KJB!)
"asking/believing And receiving," Correct?Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ” (online)
In God's Other Context of Mystery/GRACE!:
(17a) we Are Exhorted to "...Make our requests known Unto God!"
(Philippians 4:6 KJB!) While, At The Same Time, God "Teaches":
(17b) Concerning our infirmities, we "know Not" what to pray "as we ought,"
But "The Spirit Intercedeth FOR us, According To The Will Of God!..."
(Romans 8:26 KJB!)
Borrowed from: Distinctions of prophecy And MYSTERY!
Grace, Peace, And JOY In Christ, And In His Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided (+ I and II)! + RICH Blessings
It seems unlikely that you will be able to complete a complete description of the universe in our short lifetime, because you will have gone to see God in heaven before you have finished describing itJesus exampled thanksgiving before breaking the bread and feeding five thousand and, although it may be valid that we are given power over a loaf of bread, or a storm, God illustrates the absurdity of anyone 'commanding' Him by simile to a clay pot attempting to instruct it's potter.
Read the next verse, and you'll see God saying that He spread out the heavens and commands its hosts so, if you can command God, then, following that logic, you should be able to create an entire universe.
lol, I wonder if I'd even have time to create half an earth even if I lived to be an hundred and twenty-seven years old.It seems unlikely that you will be able to complete a complete description of the universe in our short lifetime, because you will have gone to see God in heaven before you have finished describing it![]()
And all my animals would have funny looking noses![]()
Indeed.With that said, I did have an idea of what the perfect cat, to me, would look like and wished to God that He create him... and He knew exactly what I was thinking of and filled in the details. And my shotgun rider, Babyphat' Finster, is beside me right now.
Mar 9:23 Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth.Jesus exampled thanksgiving before breaking the bread and feeding five thousand and, although it may be valid that we are given power over a loaf of bread, or a storm, God illustrates the absurdity of anyone 'commanding' Him by simile to a clay pot attempting to instruct it's potter.
Read the next verse, and you'll see God saying that He spread out the heavens and commands its hosts so, if you can command God, then, following that logic, you should be able to create an entire universe.
I expected better from you sir.No, this is word of faith nonsense. But it sounds like you're already firmly entrenched so have fun with it; hope it all works out.
Based on you post, I would say you have never cast out an evil spirit from someone.It's not a dispensational problem because the saints of the Old Testament have the same kind of faith as the ones of the New Testament, as Hebrews 11 amply demonstrates. Paul told God to take away his "thorn in the flesh." The key phrase in the question is "take charge." We must always let God take charge, since he is God, and we are not..