Ukraine the bad guy?
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"US Congress has an obligation to investigate this, and so should the International Criminal Court"
Investigate! Investigate! Investigate! All these investigations are a colossal waste of time and money, since in the end no one is held accountable, and no one goes to jail (or for a lethal injection). The justice systems have been thoroughly corrupted throughout the West, and the criminals are now in charge of everything.
Investigate! Investigate! Investigate! All these investigations are a colossal waste of time and money, since in the end no one is held accountable, and no one goes to jail (or for a lethal injection). The justice systems have been thoroughly corrupted throughout the West, and the criminals are now in charge of everything.
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I do think NATO is less evil. NATO was formed to resist the threat of invasion by the USSR. It was very real in the early days of the cold war. It seemed to be almost irrelevant after the USSR broke up. Note that Putin invaded Ukraine. No NATO country has attacked Russia. No NATO forces are on Russian soil. All Putin has achieved is to wake up the NATO alliance and cause Europe to rearm.
Europe's mistake was to allow Russia to annex parts of Ukraine in 2014. Putin's eventual invasion of Ukraine was inevitable. Only the endemic corruption in Russia's military stopped Russia from succeeding.
Europe's mistake was to allow Russia to annex parts of Ukraine in 2014. Putin's eventual invasion of Ukraine was inevitable. Only the endemic corruption in Russia's military stopped Russia from succeeding.
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Putin has publicly stated that he wants Russia to return to its former glory days. He has said that the collapse of the USSR was a tragedy.
“First and foremost it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.........." (Putin April 2005)
Tragedy for who? People seem to forget how much the USSR non Russian countries contributed to the USSR's economy and military. Ukraine developed and manufactured the so-called "Satan 1" ICBM. Ukraine designed and made the massive Antonov aircraft. Ukraine gave up it's offensive weapons, including nukes and bombers, in a deal that was supposed to guarantee their security. Yeah, right up to the point that Putin decided he could defeat them.
We don't see nations begging to join the Russian federation. They are getting along fine without Russia. We do see nations wanting to join the EU. As flawed as it is, the EU is not Russia.
What people fear about Russia is its nuclear arsenal. I doubt that even Putin seriously considers using nukes. It's a bluff, hoping to deter the West from resisting Russia's ambitions. Russia embarked on a military modernisation program from 2007 to 2015. It was funded by oil and gas revenues. Because of endemic corruption and sanctions, the program was a flop. Few were aware of this until the Ukraine war. Now it is obvious. No modern military power need fear Russia now.
Examples? The much vaunted Armata tanks and IFV are not to be seen. Russian trucks suffered punctures and were unable to supply ammunition and bring troops to the front. They were supposed to have military grade tyres. They had cheap Chinese tyres that could not handle the conditions. The money for Michelin tyres mysteriously disappeared. Their only aircraft carrier has hardly ever put to sea. And so on and so forth.
“First and foremost it is worth acknowledging that the demise of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.........." (Putin April 2005)
Tragedy for who? People seem to forget how much the USSR non Russian countries contributed to the USSR's economy and military. Ukraine developed and manufactured the so-called "Satan 1" ICBM. Ukraine designed and made the massive Antonov aircraft. Ukraine gave up it's offensive weapons, including nukes and bombers, in a deal that was supposed to guarantee their security. Yeah, right up to the point that Putin decided he could defeat them.
We don't see nations begging to join the Russian federation. They are getting along fine without Russia. We do see nations wanting to join the EU. As flawed as it is, the EU is not Russia.
What people fear about Russia is its nuclear arsenal. I doubt that even Putin seriously considers using nukes. It's a bluff, hoping to deter the West from resisting Russia's ambitions. Russia embarked on a military modernisation program from 2007 to 2015. It was funded by oil and gas revenues. Because of endemic corruption and sanctions, the program was a flop. Few were aware of this until the Ukraine war. Now it is obvious. No modern military power need fear Russia now.
Examples? The much vaunted Armata tanks and IFV are not to be seen. Russian trucks suffered punctures and were unable to supply ammunition and bring troops to the front. They were supposed to have military grade tyres. They had cheap Chinese tyres that could not handle the conditions. The money for Michelin tyres mysteriously disappeared. Their only aircraft carrier has hardly ever put to sea. And so on and so forth.
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Russia is a communist nation so most people prefer not to live there. Ukraine and Russia have always had issues. My family escaped Ukraine a couple generations ago. But it's like fighting a war in the middle east, they will never stop fighting. They've always had issues.
Putin is terrible but I like that he calls out Biden. Something our media will not do. Zelenskyy is terrible as well. He's an actor and dresses with high heels. He can't be taken seriously and has few to no morals imo. The people in both Russia and Ukraine are the ones suffering the most. They have no voice.
Biden giving money to Ukraine constantly is just about money laundering. I can't say what God is doing with all of it, bc I don't believe Biden even won. Then again God knew he would cheat so bad as well. Putin has Bidens card. Luckily we have an amazing military in the US. I think we are in a lot of trouble having Biden in office since his mental health is so apparent. I'm hoping we can make it to the next term. You can bet they're planning something and I wouldn't be surprised if it's another pandemic since that worked so well in their favor.
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I agree with America being the best place to live.
That being said they kept political prisoners for years for Jan 6th. Some including people in their 80s for the misdemeanor of "trespassing." This was something even Putin called out on Biden.
This is so wrong but they used the long awaiting trial in the USA as a weapon for a misdemeanor and didn't give them bail.
I think this is one of the worst things Biden did (to my knowledge). He only had military around him when inaugurated. It was a very a great inauguration for a dictator.
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After the end of the Cold war and the collapse of USSR which one had been adding countries NATO or Russia?
And btw, Crimea was part of Russia from 1783, and there is a sizable percent of ethnic Russians living in that region. Crimea was transferred to Ukraine in 1954.
So things are always more complicated than they seem.
And btw, Crimea was part of Russia from 1783, and there is a sizable percent of ethnic Russians living in that region. Crimea was transferred to Ukraine in 1954.
So things are always more complicated than they seem.
Interesting that Biden has just given himself emergency powers that in the event someone were to say anything against the war in Ukraine the US government could seize control of the means of communication. Good thing no one is saying anything remotely like that here, phew!
It also turns out that Homeland Security is actively gathering domestic intelligence on anyone who is spouting anti regime rhetoric. (For the record Homeland Security, I was the the one who started the thread asking if Biden is the most humble president ever).
It also turns out that Homeland Security is actively gathering domestic intelligence on anyone who is spouting anti regime rhetoric. (For the record Homeland Security, I was the the one who started the thread asking if Biden is the most humble president ever).
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I am aware of this, and he also said there was no going back; so this out-of-context quote isn't persuasive. The USSR failed as a state, and yes, when your government utterly fails to the point that it's dissolved, that's a tragedy. Just like if the US federal government fell apart tomorrow, it would be a tragedy, even if half the country became great, and the other half fell apart- it is still a tragedy that half fell apart. Jesus said he saw Satan fall from heaven like lightning; his being cast out of heaven was necessary, but his rebellion and fall are a tragedy.
Populism is on the rise. I don't want to join the Russian federation either, I'm not Russian. But the people in the Donbas and Crimea are, and they obviously didn't want to be yoked to the unstable government in Kyiv anymore.
The last country to join the EU was Croatia in 2013. The UK left in 2020. People want their national sovereignty back, and to not be shackled to international and intra-national organizations- the world as it is supposed to be.
Yes, and rightly so. They would be stupid not to. It's kinda like being afraid of jumping out of an airplane without a parachute.
I have no doubt that we will see a serious escalation if NATO keeps pumping military hardware and "volunteers" into Ukraine to the point that they are able start pushing troops anywhere near Crimea, or into the Donbas. And I don't think he is afraid to do something dramatic to try and get us to stop. Zelensky's regime already considers itself to be de-facto part of NATO. Putin sees his country as fighting NATO. The only people that think otherwise is the leaders of NATO. And we can deny we are at war with Russia, but de-facto we are, whether we admit it or not, and nobody will care about the current legal-status of an alliance, or the lack of a formal declaration of war when the conflict escalates outside of Ukraine (if it hasn't already). It needs to stop right now. It should not have even gotten this far.
You might have somewhat of a point on this one- the only things I would say is that while, yes, it is looking like Russia's conventional army is a "paper tiger", we might not see their whole hand right now either.
But this is exactly why we shouldn't be involved. We (NATO countries) DON'T have to fear Russia's conventional military invading our borders.
What we absolutely DO need to be wary of is crossing the line in Ukraine to the point that Russia is willing to risk making unconventional escalations.
Populism is on the rise. I don't want to join the Russian federation either, I'm not Russian. But the people in the Donbas and Crimea are, and they obviously didn't want to be yoked to the unstable government in Kyiv anymore.
The last country to join the EU was Croatia in 2013. The UK left in 2020. People want their national sovereignty back, and to not be shackled to international and intra-national organizations- the world as it is supposed to be.
Yes, and rightly so. They would be stupid not to. It's kinda like being afraid of jumping out of an airplane without a parachute.
I have no doubt that we will see a serious escalation if NATO keeps pumping military hardware and "volunteers" into Ukraine to the point that they are able start pushing troops anywhere near Crimea, or into the Donbas. And I don't think he is afraid to do something dramatic to try and get us to stop. Zelensky's regime already considers itself to be de-facto part of NATO. Putin sees his country as fighting NATO. The only people that think otherwise is the leaders of NATO. And we can deny we are at war with Russia, but de-facto we are, whether we admit it or not, and nobody will care about the current legal-status of an alliance, or the lack of a formal declaration of war when the conflict escalates outside of Ukraine (if it hasn't already). It needs to stop right now. It should not have even gotten this far.
You might have somewhat of a point on this one- the only things I would say is that while, yes, it is looking like Russia's conventional army is a "paper tiger", we might not see their whole hand right now either.
But this is exactly why we shouldn't be involved. We (NATO countries) DON'T have to fear Russia's conventional military invading our borders.
What we absolutely DO need to be wary of is crossing the line in Ukraine to the point that Russia is willing to risk making unconventional escalations.
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FROM WHITEHOUSE.GOV
On February 21, 2022, the President issued Executive Order 14065, which further expanded the scope of the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13660, as expanded in scope in Executive Orders 13661 and 13662, and relied on for additional steps taken in Executive Orders 13685 and 13849, and found that the Russian Federation’s purported recognition of the so-called Donetsk People’s Republic or Luhansk People’s Republic regions of Ukraine contradicts Russia’s commitments under the Minsk agreements and further threatens the peace, stability, sovereignty, and territorial integrity of Ukraine, and thereby constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States.
WHAT IN THE WORLD !?
A threat to Ukraine is a threat to the national security of the United States!?!?! What is this? Who reads this and is like "yep, that's true". This is INSANE. Not only did someone think this in their head- they wrote it down. And not only did they write it down, they made it into policy? This should be utterly ridiculed by everyone, everywhere, until the end of time.
On February 21, 2022, the President issued Executive Order 14065, which further expanded the scope of the national emergency declared in Executive Order 13660, as expanded in scope in Executive Orders 13661 and 13662, and relied on for additional steps taken in Executive Orders 13685 and 13849, and found that the Russian Federation’s purported recognition of the so-called Donetsk People’s Republic or Luhansk People’s Republic regions of Ukraine contradicts Russia’s commitments under the Minsk agreements and further threatens the peace, stability, sovereignty, and territorial integrity of Ukraine, and thereby constitutes an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States.
WHAT IN THE WORLD !?
A threat to Ukraine is a threat to the national security of the United States!?!?! What is this? Who reads this and is like "yep, that's true". This is INSANE. Not only did someone think this in their head- they wrote it down. And not only did they write it down, they made it into policy? This should be utterly ridiculed by everyone, everywhere, until the end of time.
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