If "Election" is based on NOTHING, then it's arbitrary.What do you mean by arbitrary since I didnt use that word, please explain what you mean.
If "Election" is based on NOTHING, then it's arbitrary.What do you mean by arbitrary since I didnt use that word, please explain what you mean.
Election is based On God.If "Election" is based on NOTHING, then it's arbitrary.
so then it's CONDITIONAL and the "U" in TULIP is false.Election is based On God.
If "Election" is based on NOTHING, then it's arbitrary.
A statement directly contrary to Scripture. And in defiance of vast tracts of Biblical types, nations, peoples and individuals.No. If it was God's will for everyone to become saved, they would become saved, but they don't become saved so that was never His will.
That and similar verses destroy so-called "double predestination" IMO.A statement directly contrary to Scripture. And in defiance of vast tracts of Biblical types, nations, peoples and individuals.
Cain, Pharoah, Judas, Esau, the Canaanites, Sodom, Naaman, Nineveh, even Balaam AND THE NATION ISRAEL.....ALL were mercifully given "time to repent". Most chose not to and suffered judgement according to God's wisdom.
1Ti 2:4
Who will have (G2309) all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
G2309 - thelō - Strong's Greek Lexicon (nkjv) (blueletterbible.org)
Outline of Biblical Usage
Back yourself into a corner at your peril.
- to will, have in mind, intend
- to be resolved or determined, to purpose
- to desire, to wish
- to love
- to like to do a thing, be fond of doing
- to take delight in, have pleasure
We are NOT called upon to judge let alone render a verdict upon these cosmic questions.
Whether it be salvation and/or judgement is God's business alone. It is dangerous territory to tread upon bro.
A statement directly contrary to Scripture. And in defiance of vast tracts of Biblical types, nations, peoples and individuals.
Cain, Pharoah, Judas, Esau, the Canaanites, Sodom, Nineveh, even Balaam AND THE NATION ISRAEL.....ALL were mercifully given "time to repent". Most chose not to and suffered judgement according to God's wisdom.
1Ti 2:4
Who will have (G2309) all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
G2309 - thelō - Strong's Greek Lexicon (nkjv) (blueletterbible.org)
Outline of Biblical Usage
Back yourself into a corner at your peril.
- to will, have in mind, intend
- to be resolved or determined, to purpose
- to desire, to wish
- to love
- to like to do a thing, be fond of doing
- to take delight in, have pleasure
We are NOT called upon to judge let alone render a verdict upon these cosmic questions.
Whether it be salvation and/or judgement is God's business alone. It is dangerous territory to tread upon bro.
God's gracious gift of salvation is precious indeed, and it is obtained through faith. It is by The Blood of Jesus, not our own works. Our part is to simply call upon the name of the Lord...Eph_2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
A statement directly contrary to Scripture. And in defiance of vast tracts of Biblical types, nations, peoples and individuals.
Cain, Pharoah, Judas, Esau, the Canaanites, Sodom, Naaman, Nineveh, even Balaam AND THE NATION ISRAEL.....ALL were mercifully given "time to repent". Most chose not to and suffered judgement according to God's wisdom.
1Ti 2:4
Who will have (G2309) all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
G2309 - thelō - Strong's Greek Lexicon (nkjv) (blueletterbible.org)
Outline of Biblical Usage
Back yourself into a corner at your peril.
- to will, have in mind, intend
- to be resolved or determined, to purpose
- to desire, to wish
- to love
- to like to do a thing, be fond of doing
- to take delight in, have pleasure
We are NOT called upon to judge let alone render a verdict upon these cosmic questions.
Whether it be salvation and/or judgement is God's business alone. It is dangerous territory to tread upon bro.
God's gracious gift of salvation is precious indeed, and it is obtained through faith. It is by The Blood of Jesus, not our own works. Our part is to simply call upon the name of the Lord...
Romans 10:13
“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
100% bro. How this exactly works in time and eternity nobody knows for sure.Our part is to simply call upon the name of the Lord...
Romans 10:13
“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
God ;whole plan of Salvation depends on us ? Seems kinda backwards .I am a sinner why would my salvation depend on a sinner?God's gracious gift of salvation is precious indeed, and it is obtained through faith. It is by The Blood of Jesus, not our own works. Our part is to simply call upon the name of the Lord...
Romans 10:13
“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Seems kinda backwards .I am a sinner why would my salvation depend on a sinner?
God foreknows eveything because everything has been predetermined by His Will. God predetermined whose going to repent and when, He gives them repentance in the first place. 2 Tim 2:25No, He did not.
He did not. God loves all and desires that all would come to Him. You preach a false Gospel and should be ejected.
2 Peter 3:9
“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
Acts 2:21"I am a sinner why would my salvation depend on a sinner?"
Wow! Perfectly stated!
Its not based on anything pertaining to the sinner, Its based upon Gods Glory and His Sovereign Good pleasure from within Himself.If "Election" is based on NOTHING, then it's arbitrary.
Acts 17:30 “And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:”God predetermined whose going to repent
That will be the elect, them whom God shall call. Thats a scripture from Joel 2:28-32Acts 2:21
“And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Wow, Biblically stated.
Thats the election of Grace commanded to repent and they will repent.Acts 17:30 “And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:”
God may have winked at ignorance, but He will not wink at arrogance.
Right God predetermines who will obey that command to repent.Acts 17:30 “And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:”
God may have winked at ignorance, but He will not wink at arrogance.